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You are correct.
But currently all of Reform Judaism has as a denomination rejected the idea of a “personal” Messiah. I wasn’t speaking about individual Jews on any spectrum. There may be individual Jews in all denominations who hold to beliefs in an individual Messiah.
I also want to note how far extensive in generality I was speaking by pointing to something Jewish scholar and author Amy-Jill Levine once stated. Technically speaking, she said, a Jew can “believe” that Jesus is the Messiah because Judaism is not a religion of beliefs, it is one of practice. This is why a Jew can be an atheist and still be a Torah-observant Jew. Many Jews don’t believe in God but still pray to God. (Confusing? Yes. It is better to have one of them explain it to you than me however on how that works.)
On a personal level the beliefs of Jews differ greatly. There is no central doctrine or standard. I myself do not hold to a central creed of any kind and reject the notion of “beliefs” in the conventional sense as most Christians understand them (i.e., “articles of faith”).
So my comments are not meant to do much more than speak in generalities. Judaism is highly complex. Not only can there be different views on one matter between two Jews of the same denomination, the denomination can suddenly change the view without fanfare or a synagogue or temple (which generally has autonomy) can alter things without the general Jewish public knowing much about it, let alone the public at large.
So my comments should be read with the space for much room for further information, for flexibility, for contrary Jewish views, and for revisions as necessary. They should never be read as absolute or by any means exhaustive.
But currently all of Reform Judaism has as a denomination rejected the idea of a “personal” Messiah. I wasn’t speaking about individual Jews on any spectrum. There may be individual Jews in all denominations who hold to beliefs in an individual Messiah.
I also want to note how far extensive in generality I was speaking by pointing to something Jewish scholar and author Amy-Jill Levine once stated. Technically speaking, she said, a Jew can “believe” that Jesus is the Messiah because Judaism is not a religion of beliefs, it is one of practice. This is why a Jew can be an atheist and still be a Torah-observant Jew. Many Jews don’t believe in God but still pray to God. (Confusing? Yes. It is better to have one of them explain it to you than me however on how that works.)
On a personal level the beliefs of Jews differ greatly. There is no central doctrine or standard. I myself do not hold to a central creed of any kind and reject the notion of “beliefs” in the conventional sense as most Christians understand them (i.e., “articles of faith”).
So my comments are not meant to do much more than speak in generalities. Judaism is highly complex. Not only can there be different views on one matter between two Jews of the same denomination, the denomination can suddenly change the view without fanfare or a synagogue or temple (which generally has autonomy) can alter things without the general Jewish public knowing much about it, let alone the public at large.
So my comments should be read with the space for much room for further information, for flexibility, for contrary Jewish views, and for revisions as necessary. They should never be read as absolute or by any means exhaustive.
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