Ask Me Anything: Muslim Edition

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Because we’re not talking about legal jurisprudence, we’re talking about history.
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In other words, because the case for Islam could not pass a its own legal requirements.
Remember that Islam is a theocracy. It’s laws are jurisprudence.
Only the living can testify to what they saw.
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That’s why we have written testimony.
Since everyone who ever saw Jesus is long dead, we can’t ask them.
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But we can read their record.
We have to rely on historical accounts and techniques of verifying information.
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Which we have done and the Bible accounts pass every test.
If we believed everything written as a historical eyewitness account, we would have to accept a number of things that we know for a fact aren’t true. We don’t accept every hadith that is attributed to Mohammed (peace be upon him) either, only those with reasonable historical validity.
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The entire Quran fails all tests of legal jurisprudence. Especially Islamic tests.
By the same standards we use for hadith, we don’t consider the gospels of the Bible historically valid over all, even if they contain valid portions of the original message.
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On the contrary, Biblical accounts pass all tests of jurisprudence from any court in any nation of the world.

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De_Maria:
Did anyone see God dictating to Moses?

Yes. The whole nation of Israel.
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I was responding to your assertion. No, in fact, no one saw God dictating to Moses.
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Yes, they did.

Exodus 19:9 And the Lord said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the Lord.
 
De_Maria said:
And I’m trying to teach you a few things.
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I’m sorry but our sister Shazirah here is merely offering to answer questions about Islam and I’m grateful for her time. She is not here to be taught or lectured by you. It would be a shame if she leaves because of you.
Shazirah I suggest you only answer to genuine questions.
 
I sincerely agree with @Ratio1.
Take it to PM - we came here for discussion, not a game of theological pingpong.
 
I am here for the purpose of the thread- to learn more about the beliefs and practices of our Muslim brothers and sisters, and to find what is “true and holy” in Islam, as said by Nostra Aetate 3.
The lack of civility in your speech casts a negative light upon Catholics. One can catch more flies with honey that with vinegar, or, in this case, one can convert more Muslims with Christian charity than with simply decrying all they say as a lie.

Also, please look at Conduct Rule number 3 under the FAQ tab. You may want to hold to those rules more firmly in the future.
 
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Maximilian75 said:
I am here for the purpose of the thread- …
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Your purpose on the thread has no bearing upon mine.

When a Muslim insinuates that the Gospel is corrupt:
shazirah said:
The explanation that I’ve always heard is that the message of the Gospels has been corrupted…
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shazirah said:
The book and message that was revealed to Jesus by Allah is called the Injil. The Injil is not the four gospels of the Christian bible, but a separate pure text which is the source from which the Gospels draw many of their accounts, but not all.
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I consider it fair play to show the errors of Islam.
 
Feel free to expose all the errors you want. All I ask is that you move this to a PM and restore this thread back to a discussion among many as opposed to a debate between 2.
 
De_Maria said:
I consider it fair play to show the errors of Islam.
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Fine. So why don’t you start a thread about the errors of Islam, and leave this thread (which is fascinating, by the way – thanks, Shazirah!) to those of us who are learning something from it, and enjoying it, as well?
 
Hey, I’m always willing to learn things, that’s why I’m on this site. However, there’s a whole site for that and this thread is to help promote mutual understanding and cordiality, not to convert anyone or attempt to prove or disprove anyone’s religion (which would be a fruitless, because an aggressive conversation on an internet forum between two lay people is unlikely to change anyone’s mind about their core beliefs anyway). We believe in the same God, if not the same exact revelation of God. I have faith that God is great enough to speak to whom He chooses, so if God wants you to be Muslim, He will tell you in a way that you understand to become Muslim. Inshallah. It has nothing to do with me or anything I could say. If God wants me to be Christian, He will tell me to be a Christian in His own time.

People in the West are often scared of Muslims because they usually only see angry foreigners on TV and rarely have a chance to talk to just some normal Muslim person happily living their life, whereas many people in the Islamic world are scared of Westerners for the same reasons. That’s a shame. It shouldn’t be that way. So, I’m here to answer some basic questions about what Muslims believe as your friendly local hijabi chick while I read the site for more information on my own questions about Christianity. I have no intention of casting dispersions on what Christians believe, only to explain how and why Muslims believe differently. I wholly encourage anyone to put their questions to an Islamic scholar, imam, religious historian, or just research widely aside from what I have to say, because Islam is huge. Just because I don’t know something
or can’t explain something properly doesn’t mean more qualified people don’t have answers. If you’re upset by my explanations, by all means choose to ignore them.

So, may Allah bless you, sister, but I think you might better find what you’re looking for elsewhere.
 
Even if you don’t have an agenda, your charitability is certainly lacking… conduct rule 6.

Look, I made a charitable and reasonable request of you. you can deny it. thats fine. dont act like im insane for asking you to follow the rules of the forum you are debating upon.
 
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The best way is to simply ignore from now on.
Let’s get on with more important things in life than arguing
 
Another question:
Mohammed prayed towards Jerusalem initially before he got revelation to prayed towards Mecca.
Did he initially pray towards Jerusalem because he got a revelation or was that because the Allah of Abraham was thought to be at Jerusalem?
 
what’s the translation of the call to prayer? Is there symbolism behind the number of minarets a mosque has?
 
I often heard that the Islam practiced in south east Asia esp Indonesia is a bit different. What are the major differences?
 
If I may ask, one thing that confuses me about islam is the punishment for murder: specifically the rule in Sharia Law whereby a convicted murderer can avoid any legal punishment if the close family members of the victim forgive him.

Apart from the great potential for abuse (such as when the victim’s family is also the murderer’s family, or when the murderer has power over the victim’s family to force them to forgive him, or when the victim’s family disliked him for unfair reasons), it seems wrong. It seems to devalue human life (for instance, if a man can get away with murdering me just because my family feels that must mean nothing of value was lost), and just because someone is forgiven doesn’t mean they are remorseful or learned their lesson or are less likely to kill again.
 
Two reasons, as given in the Koran: First, Jerusalem was the holy city of many of the previous prophets, but since the residents of Jerusalem mocked the Prophet (peace be upon him) for praying in the direction of their city, Allah took from them a measure of their prominence for their pride. Second, this was seen as a test of obedience to the will of God.

Also, according to what we know about the ancient religion in the region, pre-Islamic peoples prayed towards Mecca as a sort of founding spot. The Kaaba has, by tradition, existed from the beginning of human history as the house of Adam, although it has been rebuilt several times by other prophets. Some Islamic scholars believe that Moses was directed to build at Bait-Ul-Muqsad (Jerusalem) because he lived in a time when the area surrounding the Kaaba was unsafe or unable to support a city. So, some people believe that the switch from praying towards Jerusalem to praying towards Mecca was a symbol of returning reverence to the true house of God.
 
what’s the translation of the call to prayer?
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My favorite subject! 😃 Ok, so, below is the translation and also a video so you can get a feel for how it sounds when it’s done really, really well. I love to hear it. It’s like instant relief when I’m having a bad day.

Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar (God is the greatest, God is the greatest) x 2
Ash-hadu an’ la ilaha ill Allah, (I testify that there is no God but Allah) x 2
Ash-hadu ana Muhammadan Rasoolallah, (I testify that Mohammed is the Messenger of Allah) x 2
Hayya 'alas-Salah, (Hurry to prayer!) x 2
Hayya 'alal Falah, (Hurry to happiness!) x2
Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar (God is the greatest, God is the greatest)
La illaha ill Allah! (There is no god but Allah)


As for the minarets, as far as I know, there’s not a significance to the number aside from the fact that the more minarets a mosque has, the larger the historical population of the area was. Back in the day, the call to prayer had to be heard throughout a city, so the more minarets a mosque had, the more muezzin it had, and the further the sound would carry.
 
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