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Hi Amy and Tomshaikh,

Salaam, and all that good stuff.

I am curious as to whether you good people have an opinion about the site at muslimrefusenik.com/ . Irshad Manji is a believing Muslim woman who believes in gay rights and women’s rights.

I’m also curious as to whether you had ever read the work of the Spanish Muslim philosopher Ibn-Rushd, and whether you had an opinion about his work found here muslimphilosophy.com/books/taf-taf.pdf
I think that means “refutation of the refutation”. I studied Arabic at the University of Utah, but have forgotten most of it. Ha! Anyway, he’s the inspiration for Irshad Manji.

I appreciate the kind way you both approach questions and look forward to a productive conversation.

Shalom, go in peace, Salaam…

LaMar
Right now we muslims have no particular leader for our religion. So who ever what he or she think say so about Islam. We need a good leader which will be Inshallah on the day of judgement who is Imam mahdi which will reform the same ruling of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) on last days.

Please see other post in this thread for leaders which Sister Amy posted.
 
Jesus had his own prophets…the apostles. they did the job.

Man or Women who ever you are. Dude or Dudent you need rest. You already have almost 2000 post. Definately you need rest or outing or vacation. Peace Out
 
Man or Women who ever you are. Dude or Dudent you need rest. You already have almost 2000 post. Definately you need rest or outing or vacation. Peace Out
i didnt post for the entire month of January. and i dont post on weekends. theres my rest. 🙂
 
Hi Tomshaikh,

Thanks very much for your comments.

I don’t think Irshad Manji is trying to proclaim herself Caliph. She makes it clear that she’s a faithful Muslim but is only a believer, and her interpretation is for her alone.

One of the good things about Islam is that the individual seems to be given the authority to think and reason for himself and herself. This doesn’t exist in most of Christianity.

I’d really recommend reading the book by Ibn-Rushd. He was a Spanish guy who grew up a Muslim in Andalusia, and felt that philosophy, science and knowledge were gifts from God, rather than things to be feared (as many Christians seem to believe even today).

muslimphilosophy.com/ir/
Right now we muslims have no particular leader for our religion. So who ever what he or she think say so about Islam. We need a good leader which will be Inshallah on the day of judgement who is Imam mahdi which will reform the same ruling of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) on last days.

Please see other post in this thread for leaders which Sister Amy posted.
 
Hi Tomshaikh,

Thanks very much for your comments.

I don’t think Irshad Manji is trying to proclaim herself Caliph. She makes it clear that she’s a faithful Muslim but is only a believer, and her interpretation is for her alone.

One of the good things about Islam is that the individual seems to be given the authority to think and reason for himself and herself. This doesn’t exist in most of Christianity.

I’d really recommend reading the book by Ibn-Rushd. He was a Spanish guy who grew up a Muslim in Andalusia, and felt that philosophy, science and knowledge were gifts from God, rather than things to be feared (as many Christians seem to believe even today).

muslimphilosophy.com/ir/

Thanks to you that you took time coming to this post. To share your thoughts. I will try to buy his book or see this website. Inshallah

Note: There is no evidence for Imam Mahdi in Quran. It is telly in Hadith about him.
 
As-Salaam-O-Alikee, Coz you are non-muslim instead of Alikyum (May Be This Is Your Answer) Lots of people didn’t say full salaam to Non-Muslims coz its not required thats why they say Alikee instead of Alikum or Alikyum.Hope this answer you
tomshaikh,

In Iraq, Christians and the peaceful ones among the Muslims say as-salamu 'alaikum to one another. We also say as-salamu 'alaikee and as-salamu 'alaika for individuals. Usually, we also use greetings like “marhaba”, which is very common between the people of Iraq.
Please provide prove and evidence that muslims did that on your above paragraph. Any website or book to read or just your forefathers say so.
There are some sources online:

For example, here is a source that talks about the invasion of Islam into Mesopotamia (Iraq), the battles and the aftermath in Iraq, where the Church of the East (Assyrian-Chaldean Christians) was located.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest_of_Persia

The Christians were made a dhimmi who were required to pay a jizya, were restricted in occupation, worship, and dress, and they were to be tolerated so long as they submitted to Muslim rule. This is the beginning of the wrath of Islam on our people.

Then, the Church of the East was almost completely decimated when the Muslim warlord of Turco-Mongol descent, Tamerlane, killed many of our Assyro-Chaldeans in Iraq, 70,000 beheaded in Tikrit, and 90,000 more in Baghdad.

You can read here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians

Here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur

Also here:
americanthinker.com/2005/10/killing_from_quranic_piety_tam.html
Where it says, for example:​

Timur was a pious Muslim, who may well have belonged to the Naqshbandi Sufi order. [4; also see my earlier essay, ‘Sufi Jihad’, for a discussion of Sufism and jihad.] Grousset [5] emphasizes the important Islamic motivation for Timur’s jihad campaigns:
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It is the Qur'an to which he continually appeals, the imams and [Sufi] dervishes who prophesy his success. [emphasis added] His wars were to influence the character of the jihad, the Holy War, even when— as was almost always the case— he was fighting Muslims. He had only to accuse these Muslims of lukewarmness, whether the Jagataites of the Ili and Uiguria, whose conversion was so recent, or the Sultans of Delhi who...refrained from massacring their millions of Hindu subjects.
The Turki chronicle Malfuzat—i—Timuri, a putative [6] autobiographical memoir of Timur, translated into Persian by Abu Talib Husaini, illustrates these driving sentiments, complete with a Qur’anic quotation : [7]
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About this time there arose in my heart the desire to lead an expedition against the infidels, and to become a ghazi; for it had reached my ears that the slayer of infidels is a ghazi, and if he is slain he becomes a martyr.  It was on this account that I formed this resolution, but I was undetermined in my mind whether I should direct my expedition against the infidels of China or against the infidels and polytheists of India.  In this matter I sought an omen from the Qur'an, and the verse I opened upon [Q66:9] was this, 'O Prophet, make war upon infidels and unbelievers, and treat them with severity.' My great officers told me that the inhabitants of Hindustan were infidels and unbelievers. In obedience to the order of Almighty Allah I ordered an expedition against them.
Timur’s jihad campaigns against non—Muslims — whether Christians in Asia Minor and Georgia, or Hindus in India — seemed to intensify in brutality. Brown [8] highlights one particular episode which supports this contention, wherein Timur clearly distinguished between his vanquished Muslim and non—Muslim foes. After rampaging through (Christian) Georgia, where he ‘devastated the country, destroyed the churches, and slew great numbers of inhabitants’, in the winter of 1399—1400, Timur, in August 1400,
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...began his march into Asia Minor by way of Avnik, Erzeroum, Erzinjan, and Sivas. The latter place offered a stubborn resistance, and when it finally capitulated Timur caused all the Armenian and Christian soldiers to be buried alive; but the Muhammadans he spared.

Then, very recently in our history, many of our people were massacred by Muslims. You can read the article: **“SEYFO” The Year of the Sword **
zindamagazine.com/html/archives/1999/apr26_1999.htm
Where it says:​

"The clergies, whose noses they pierced and linked in this way, were dragged through the streets of Omid and Midyat; churches and monasteries were set on fire without exception; women were raped by dozens of men; they opened the abdomens of the pregnant women and speared their unborn on the top of the spear and then hurled them against the walls; the young girls jumped from the mountains and gorges in order to save themselves from the enemy; who can forget this all? Who doesn’t stand up for expiating their death? Who is quite capable of refusing them their gained honor? Which orphan doesn’t swear for them?” With these words the monk Ishaho of the Mar Augin Monastery described the genocide committed against our people. Further he added: "God shouldn’t even let this happen to our enemies”.​

Of course, the killing of our Christian people continues in Iraq. Read here:
chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/143981?&eng=y
Where it says:​

A sister told the Vatican news agency Fides: “The imams preach in the mosques that it is not a crime to kill Christians. It is a hunting of men.”​

There are other sources, but this is enough for now.

God bless,

Rony
 
tomshaikh,

In Iraq, Christians and the peaceful ones among the Muslims say as-salamu 'alaikum to one another. We also say as-salamu 'alaikee and as-salamu 'alaika for individuals. Usually, we also use greetings like “marhaba”, which is very common between the people of Iraq.

Rony

Hi There, I have listen as-salamu 'alaika but never heard of as-salamu 'alaikee.

I have read all your post and i have No-Comments for that.
 
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