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Well, the intro page looks inviting enough; however, I cannot tell
if the community is for men or women, what their apostolate is,
how many members there are & who is the founder or foundress.
As a matter of fact, there is really nothing else beyond the
first page except a rather vague horarium…
 
Well, the intro page looks inviting enough; however, I cannot tell
if the community is for men or women, what their apostolate is,
how many members there are & who is the founder or foundress.
As a matter of fact, there is really nothing else beyond the
first page except a rather vague horarium…
Right you are ! I have never done a website before and thought I’d go to a place and just play with it. I am limited in my knowledge on how to do a website and then I think I got punchy being up so late…working on it became addictive ! … so I just posted it on here sort of like a friend who say to another…“what do you think.”

I haven’t had a chance to get back to it since I posted it. I sure wish I knew at least one other person who wanted to do this with me. Sure would help.

I’m in discernment right now on just what to do. If I had my druthers, it would be for women and the apostolate would be to visit the homebound, the nursing homes, assist at CCD when possible in probably teaching Theology of the Body, Lectio Divina, and Adoration…all in the 5-6 rural parishes where I am. One priest and one deacon to do all. The priest is 81. Oh, and walk around the town squares (similar to Roz’s idea) as a visible witness to bring back fallen away Catholics and for evangelization.

This rural area I am in 30 miles east of Springfield, Missouri, is fertile ground for planting seeds.

Kathie
 
Quoting Kathielee:
Right you are ! I have never done a website before and thought I’d go to a place and just play with it. I am limited in my knowledge on how to do a website and then I think I got punchy being up so late…working on it became addictive ! … so I just posted it on here sort of like a friend who say to another…“what do you think.”
Had a smile at the above - know the feeling re being up late and becoming punchy:thumbsup: . I was quite impressed with the website, and thought you would probably add to it as time goes on and to keep my eye on it. I noted too that it was a free website too and I investigated that and had a wander around. I live and I learn…says a real computer totally non literate.
I haven’t had a chance to get back to it since I posted it. I sure wish I knew at least one other person who wanted to do this with me. Sure would help.
I now that feeling too, Kathielee…may The Lord grant you increase and fruition…and soon…
I’m in discernment right now on just what to do. If I had my druthers, it would be for women and the apostolate would be to visit the homebound, the nursing homes, assist at CCD when possible in probably teaching Theology of the Body, Lectio Divina, and Adoration…all in the 5-6 rural parishes where I am. One priest and one deacon to do all. The priest is 81. Oh, and walk around the town squares (similar to Roz’s idea) as a visible witness to bring back fallen away Catholics and for evangelization.
Hang in there! Sometimes The Lord can seem oh so slow and one wonder what it is all about…it will clarify for sure given time. I am quite confident The Lord loves and fully insights his children living in time and in a time that is fast paced and finding the waiting and wondering not easy at all especially if there are difficulties, trials and tribulations and entirely discouraging often, and as one waits and wonders.
This rural area I am in 30 miles east of Springfield, Missouri, is fertile ground for planting seeds.
God’s blessings on your vineyard.I will pray that The Lord will bless your hopes…“give success to the work of our hands”…not that He needs any nudge from me at all…

Blessings and regards…Barb:)
 
Quoting Kathielee:

Had a smile at the above - know the feeling re being up late and becoming punchy:thumbsup: . I was quite impressed with the website, and thought you would probably add to it as time goes on and to keep my eye on it. I noted too that it was a free website too and I investigated that and had a wander around. I live and I learn…says a real computer totally non literate.

I now that feeling too, Kathielee…may The Lord grant you increase and fruition…and soon…

Hang in there! Sometimes The Lord can seem oh so slow and one wonder what it is all about…it will clarify for sure given time. I am quite confident The Lord loves and fully insights his children living in time and in a time that is fast paced and finding the waiting and wondering not easy at all especially if there are difficulties, trials and tribulations and entirely discouraging often, and as one waits and wonders.

God’s blessings on your vineyard.I will pray that The Lord will bless your hopes…“give success to the work of our hands”…not that He needs any nudge from me at all…

Blessings and regards…Barb:)
Thank you for your encouraging words! You know…I sometimes think (often actually) that my will has been so strong for so long that God is taking His time because He seems to need extra time teaching me that it’s His will and in His time. I might be a tough nut to crack! 😉

Whatever He has in mind when the time is right, I trust in Him. But, the impatient part of me…oh, more that He has to work on, by the way…gets a cart ahead of the horse sometimes 😊

It’s funny, too, that while I was playing with the website, it helped me in discernment generally.

When I was with my spiritual director a week ago, a Trappist monk, we were both getting the feeling that the way things have been going in the last two years, it would almost appear that God is going to continue to work with me a couple more years before things start happening…of course, who knows but there does seem to be a pattern.

Thanks again for help! 🙂

Kathie:juggle:
 
Thank you for your encouraging words! You know…I sometimes think (often actually) that my will has been so strong for so long that God is taking His time because He seems to need extra time teaching me that it’s His will and in His time. I might be a tough nut to crack! 😉

Whatever He has in mind when the time is right, I trust in Him. But, the impatient part of me…oh, more that He has to work on, by the way…gets a cart ahead of the horse sometimes 😊

It’s funny, too, that while I was playing with the website, it helped me in discernment generally.

When I was with my spiritual director a week ago, a Trappist monk, we were both getting the feeling that the way things have been going in the last two years, it would almost appear that God is going to continue to work with me a couple more years before things start happening…of course, who knows but there does seem to be a pattern.

Thanks again for help! 🙂

Kathie:juggle:
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Deo Gratius!
I’ll be keeping my eye on your website periodically, but do let us know if it changes in any way…additions etc.
As I am sure you can see from this thread, your late night “punchy-ness” has born some fruit and for yourself also…hence The Lord has good use for all that is - and regardless of where it may sit in our human scale of matters either good or bad, positive or negative, productive or nonproductive…
The Lord can move in very strange ways sometimes, very strange…hence the strange and unexpected, the seemingly ‘of no value’ etc. may be not quite what it appears to us nor to others…

I need to keep learning that lesson that it is not about me and my will but about God and His Will…and The Lord, as stated, can move in surprising, unexpected and weird ways indeed…at least to human thought and thinking…

The Tough Nut Extraordinaire - Barb:juggle:
 
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Deo Gratius!
I’ll be keeping my eye on your website periodically, but do let us know if it changes in any way…additions etc.
As I am sure you can see from this thread, your late night “punchy-ness” has born some fruit and for yourself also…hence The Lord has good use for all that is - and regardless of where it may sit in our human scale of matters either good or bad, positive or negative, productive or nonproductive…
The Lord can move in very strange ways sometimes, very strange…hence the strange and unexpected, the seemingly ‘of no value’ etc. may be not quite what it appears to us nor to others…

I need to keep learning that lesson that it is not about me and my will but about God and His Will…and The Lord, as stated, can move in surprising, unexpected and weird ways indeed…at least to human thought and thinking…

The Tough Nut Extraordinaire - Barb:juggle:
I have to tell you a little story about this last year. I have thought this or that and felt for sure my course of action was spot on with God’s will. And, then, it didn’t pan out. Specifically, I’m referring to a move to the country. That’s the short story! Anyway, with so many times of thinking this and then it fell through, I started to second guess myself. It worried me alot. How can I know what to do when something feels so right and yet it wasn’t God’s will?

Well, I picked up a book I bought last year and just started reading it in the evening a few days ago. “The Spiritual Combat and a Treatise On Peace of Soul” by Dom Lorenzo Scupoli.

This book is known as one of the greatest classics in ascetic theology. It’s not a huge book and it’s very easy to read. When I bought it last year, nothing in it made sense to me…an odd inability comprehend it. This last week, it makes all the sense in the world.

And, if you or anyone here has not read it, I highly recommend it. It so clearly presents this very important process of giving up one’s will for God’s will and even how to do it !

It’s just one of those times when you smack yourself on the forehead and say, “Ok, God, finally I hear you.” And then you give yourself a big “duh.”

It was first published in 1589. It was the favorite book of St. Frances de Sales and he carried a copy of it in his pocket for 18 years and read from it every day. He also recommended it to everyone under his direction.

Kathie
 
Thank you for recommending the book, Kathie, if St. Francis de Sales thought highly of it then that is another great recommendation. Just put it on my “Recommended Books” list.
Sometimes our understanding can be blocked for one reason or another and when the block dissolves, all seems so simple it is puzzling why one could not understand in the first place.

Blessings…Barb:)
 
Kathie lee,
What is Memoria Dei?
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First the only description I can find…followed by what my Trappist spiritual director told me about “why” and “how”.

Two Biblical texts ask Christians to pray “always,” “without ceasing.” In the Gospel of Luke Jesus tells a parable about “the necessity…to pray always without becoming weary” (Luke 18:1), and Paul commands, “Pray without ceasing” (1 Thessalonians 5:17). How is this possible? How can we reconcile this request with Paul’s command to work (2 Thessalonians 3:12) and with his own example of working “night and day” (2 Thessalonians 3:8)? And how can one pray while sleeping?These questions traversed early Christianity, monasticism in particular, and the attempts to respond were numerous. The Messalians, also known as the Euchites (“those who pray”), went to the extreme of refusing all work and claimed to devote themselves exclusively to prayer. Another attempt, equally extreme and equally futile, was that of the “acemetes” (“those who do not sleep”), who sought to dedicate themselves to prayer alone by reducing their sleep to an absolute minimum. Cenobitic monasteries, taking a different route, sought to multiply the number of liturgical ‘hours,’ and some monasteries created a form of continual liturgical prayer, or laus perennis, by assigning rotations to different members of the community. Still other responses have focused on the inner life: repeating an invocation to God to the rhythm of one’s breath and heartbeat, or even, as in the practice of so-called ‘monological prayer,’ repeating tirelessly a single word, such as the name of Jesus.

The fruit of this focus of the believer’s mind on the name of his or her Lord, this attention that empties the heart of all other thoughts so that the thought of God alone can dwell there, is the mnéme theou or memoria Dei, the ‘remembrance of God.’ Described in particular in the spiritual teaching of Pseudo-Macarius, the ‘remembrance of God’ is a profound spiritual act of unification of the heart in front of the interiorized presence of God. ‘Remembrance’ is intended here in the sense of guarding in the heart - in other words, in the mind and the depths of the person - God’s presence, and allowing one’s exterior life to be unified and integrated with one’s inner life in the light of this presence. This act of remembering becomes the light by which we live and re-consider the present, judging it in faith. Memoria Dei becomes the source of the discernment that produces spiritual wisdom and makes the believer capable of choosing each act and word in the light of the third person whom he or she makes reign in every relationship, God. The authoritative spiritual man or woman is brought into being by this life-giving memoria. Memoria Dei is an act of remembrance that expresses love and desire for God, a profound attachment of the heart, and an awareness of his forgiveness. Pseudo-Macarius writes, “A Christian should always conserve the memory of God, because he or she should love God not only in church, but also while walking, speaking, and eating.” This memoria becomes an inner presence, and this presence becomes prayer - life lived before God and in the awareness of his presence. Through his or her memoria the believer is made the “dwelling of the Lord,” as the apostle Paul affirms. It should be clear, then, that memoria Dei is not simply a psychological act; rather, it is the action of the Holy Spirit.

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The fourth Gospel, in which the Spirit has the function of “teaching and reminding” (John 14:26), tells us that the Spirit teaches us everything and reminds us of “all” that Jesus said and did. The Spirit appears here as a memoria of completeness, of a totality communicated not through the sum of Jesus’ actions and words recorded in Scripture, but through the presence of Jesus himself. It is a memoria of Jesus’ words and silence, of the said and the unsaid, the fulfilled and the unfulfilled, the ‘already’ and the ‘not yet,’ and therefore also of that which has not yet taken place. This remembrance, work of the Sprit, is also prophecy. It guides us toward that profound consonance with Christ, with what is at the source of his speaking and acting, that instills in us the ability to obey the Gospel creatively, guided by the Spirit who makes Christ dwell in us. Concealed within memoria Dei is an attitude of gratitude and thanksgiving, faithfulness and commitment, self-surrender and hope. It is an act of remembrance that unifies the past, gives light and meaning to the present, and opens into expectation and hope for the future. We can understand why Gregory of Sinai (14th century) claimed that the command “Remember the Lord your God at all times” is the most fundamental command of all: it is thanks to this commandment that all of the other commandments can be fulfilled.

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Kathie lee,
What is Memoria Dei?
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And now the why and the how: Originally, and really not all that long ago either, people could not read Latin which the Bibles were in. Stained glass windows were originally done to be a visible story of the events of the Gospel. This was all people had since they could not read. Back in the day, they were taught “symbols” that would allow them to meditate on Scripture. For example…wood. Anytime we see wood or a tree we can contemplate the cross. And from there, we can meditate on all that the cross means to us. Taking a drive somewhere can help us to think about the travel that Mary and Joseph took to Bethlehem to have the baby Jesus. Doing the housework…meditate on Mary helping Elizabeth. Watching other people’s children…how someone must have cared for Jesus when Mary needed help…etc.

Wherever we look, things in life can make us contemplate on scripture. If we can’t read, of course we would need symbols. But since we can read, we rarely think about that. It’s a way of praying unceasingly in all we do and all we see.

Kathie
 
Thank you for recommending the book, Kathie, if St. Francis de Sales thought highly of it then that is another great recommendation. Just put it on my “Recommended Books” list.
Sometimes our understanding can be blocked for one reason or another and when the block dissolves, all seems so simple it is puzzling why one could not understand in the first place.

Blessings…Barb:)
Oh, you are so right 👍

And what about those times when it seems that for days on end one rotten thing and another happens. And we wonder WHY ??
Hindsight is SO 20/20 ! LOL I’m in one of those weeks, by the way, so I look forward to finding out just what Jesus wants me to learn! :confused:

:hypno: Kathie :gopray2:
 
I have to tell you a little story about this last year. I have thought this or that and felt for sure my course of action was spot on with God’s will. And, then, it didn’t pan out. Specifically, I’m referring to a move to the country. That’s the short story! Anyway, with so many times of thinking this and then it fell through, I started to second guess myself. It worried me alot. How can I know what to do when something feels so right and yet it wasn’t God’s will?

Well, I picked up a book I bought last year and just started reading it in the evening a few days ago. “The Spiritual Combat and a Treatise On Peace of Soul” by Dom Lorenzo Scupoli.

This book is known as one of the greatest classics in ascetic theology. It’s not a huge book and it’s very easy to read. When I bought it last year, nothing in it made sense to me…an odd inability comprehend it. This last week, it makes all the sense in the world.

And, if you or anyone here has not read it, I highly recommend it. It so clearly presents this very important process of giving up one’s will for God’s will and even how to do it !

It’s just one of those times when you smack yourself on the forehead and say, “Ok, God, finally I hear you.” And then you give yourself a big “duh.”

It was first published in 1589. It was the favorite book of St. Frances de Sales and he carried a copy of it in his pocket for 18 years and read from it every day. He also recommended it to everyone under his direction.

Kathie
Thanks! I’ll sure look for it.
Your idea is sounding pretty good so far. I’ll be interested to see what happens with it.
 
Thanks! I’ll sure look for it.
Your idea is sounding pretty good so far. I’ll be interested to see what happens with it.
I got mine from Tan Books. They often have sales that one cannot escape! 😃
 
Oh, you are so right 👍

And what about those times when it seems that for days on end one rotten thing and another happens. And we wonder WHY ??
Hindsight is SO 20/20 ! LOL I’m in one of those weeks, by the way, so I look forward to finding out just what Jesus wants me to learn! :confused:

:hypno: Kathie :gopray2:
Ahhhh hindsight. It can be a great gift as one looks back, ponders and learns…hindsight can also be a great burden and no help at all if one looks back and takes on a useless burden of guilt, remorse and regret. Sometimes called “useless baggage”. There is a difference I think between healthy guilt, remorse and regret and the useless burdens of same we can carry around to no good purpose weighing us down and sometimes into the pits of depression…to no good reason.
so I look forward to finding out just what Jesus wants me to learn!
Keep the LPlates on!!! 👍 …always learning, learning learning and still more to learn and learn and learn…and then some more to learn and learn andlearn…

Barb:)
I dont know if you have LPlates in other countries, here in Australia driver’s who are still learning to drive must have a yellow and black LPlate on the front and rear windows of the car.
 
Ahhhh hindsight. It can be a great gift as one looks back, ponders and learns…hindsight can also be a great burden and no help at all if one looks back and takes on a useless burden of guilt, remorse and regret. Sometimes called “useless baggage”. There is a difference I think between healthy guilt, remorse and regret and the useless burdens of same we can carry around to no good purpose weighing us down and sometimes into the pits of depression…to no good reason.

Keep the LPlates on!!! 👍 …always learning, learning learning and still more to learn and learn and learn…and then some more to learn and learn andlearn…

Barb:)
I dont know if you have LPlates in other countries, here in Australia driver’s who are still learning to drive must have a yellow and black LPlate on the front and rear windows of the car.
I don’t think we have LPlates! Well, if we do, they can’t be in the window or it’s ticket time! lol Everything has to be situated right where the license plate goes or big trouble and mucho moolah ticket.

Just when I think I’m making headway, a rug gets pulled out and I’m sitting with a sore bum looking up! LOL

Kathie
 
I don’t think we have LPlates! Well, if we do, they can’t be in the window or it’s ticket time! lol Everything has to be situated right where the license plate goes or big trouble and mucho moolah ticket.

Just when I think I’m making headway, a rug gets pulled out and I’m sitting with a sore bum looking up! LOL

Kathie
My all to regular position and dispostion!😃
I hope I didn’t say something to pull the rug, Kathie - such was not at all intended! But then sometimes I will stick my foot in things!..and both of them - feet I mean - just to make a good and lousy job of things being me…I truly hope I have not said something upsetting.:confused:

Barb:)
 
I had a look through this thread again, Kathie, trying to find if perhaps I had indeed said something upsetting. By “keep the LPlates on” it is (in my ‘realm’:o ) a compliment as we should always and everwhere be learners and learning in life and especially in the spiritual realm and right through our life…which was picking up on your comment that you are eager to find out what Jesus will teach you…and this I thought was insightful and most postively revealing. If I ever founded an Order they would always be in white veils = novices or learners always, listening for what Jesus would teach them.

There can always be I think “headway” and an entirely good thing and to be grateful about…but then so can landing on one’s rear and sore at that and looking up and laughing to boot - a most humble statement I thought.👍 …while mystified as to why you so landed and fearful I was somehow the cause. And if I was the cause, do get up as you are not rightfully there!..
…it’s only Barb after all!😃

Or am I digging my own hole even bigger!:o

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