Assalamu alaikum

[Sheeniac]

If “accusing” another poster of being a “teacher” violates forum law I’ll ask for no mock trial. Crucify Me.

Good grief, 30, you made an assertion - back it up.

 

[Damascus]

If “accusing” another poster of being a “teacher” violates forum law I’ll ask for no mock trial. Crucify Me.

Your ad hominem breaks the forum rules.

Your lies about my posts are simply lies.

 

[30miller]

Good grief, 30, you made an assertion - back it up.

For crying out loud, Sheeniac - if Damascus would simply post that he is not a teacher (not that there is anything wrong with that, to paraphrase Seinfeld), I would simply apologize and take his “correction” at face value, no more. Christianity certainly seems lost in a forum that likes to claim it’s presence.
Damascus spends tons of time misquoting me and putting false words in my mouth (read his series of posts) and then refuses to address any of my specific statements and questions regarding his posts. Then he wants to make this THE issue. And he also wants to lament about about getting off topic. Get real. I came to this thread and tried to engage Abdullah. And not only did Damascus insist on “interpreting” for Abdullah (none of which I found correct, I might add) but, as I said, Abdullah was doing a significantly better job communicating for himself.

 

[Valke2]

For crying out loud, Sheeniac - if Damascus would simply post that he is not a teacher (not that there is anything wrong with that, to paraphrase Seinfeld), I would simply apologize and take his “correction” at face value, no more. Christianity certainly seems lost in a forum that likes to claim it’s presence.
Damascus spends tons of time misquoting me and putting false words in my mouth (read his series of posts) and then refuses to address any of my specific statements and questions regarding his posts. .

How much does a ton of time weigh? (Hint: It is a trick question).

 

[30miller]

How much does a ton of time weigh? (Hint: It is a trick question).

Thanks for the hint. Never would have “got it” otherwise.

How much does a single drop of water weigh? (Hint: correct answer doesn’t mean it is powerless).

 

[Valke2]

Thanks for the hint. Never would have “got it” otherwise.

How much does a single drop of water weigh? (Hint: correct answer doesn’t mean it is powerless).

One mole equals 6.02 x 1023 (also known as Avogadro’s number). A 6 followed by 23 zeros. Now that’s a pretty big number. But that’s all it is, a number. You can’t just have a mole, you have to have a mole of something. A mole of atoms. A mole of water molecules. A mole of pennies (which would make you richer than you can imagine). Why the mole? As it turns out, the mole has some interesting properties. One mole of hydrogen atoms (6.02 x 1023 H atoms) weighs 1 g. From the periodic table we know that an He atoms weighs 4 times as much as an H atom, so go figure, 1 mole of He atoms weighs 4 g. In fact, one mole of any element is equal to the atomic mass of that element (in grams).
Let’s think about that for a second. If we know the molar mass of an element, and we know how many elements make up a specific molecule, then you can calculate the molar mass of a compound by adding up the atomic weights. Huh? Take water for example. How much does a mole of water weigh? Well, one mole of water contains one mole of oxygen atoms and two moles of hydrogen atoms. A mole of hydrogen weighs 1 g and a mole of oxygen weighs 16 g (look at the atomic mass in the periodic table). So to calculate the weight of one mole of water:

(2 moles H * 1 g per mole) + (1 mole O * 16 g per mole) = 18 g

 

[meedo]

How much does a ton of time weigh? (Hint: It is a trick question).

a ton

 

[Lion]

WOW! :banghead:

30Miller, do you even know what you are arguing anymore???
I had to read through this post twice to try and figure out what the crux of your argument is… you talk about strawmen? Take a sec and reread some of your arguments and especially how you have framed or stated them. I think it is funny that you had to use a google search to define “wherewithall” for the OP… did you not already know how to define it? Try getting off your high horse and try reading/understanding the intention of posts instead of going straight into combat mode.

I’m having some major problems with some of your arguments 30 Miller… for instance, “the media wouldn’t report it if wasn’t true argument”… the media only reports what will sell… terrorists sell!!!.. pacifists? Not so much…
IMHO, you are being a bit naive and also confrontational. I have to wonder to what purpose

And then you go on to confront someone who likely (and sorry Damascus I am indeed not trying to speak for you, but am giving voice to my perceptions), who probably agrees with you more than you realize. Again, IMHO you appear to be looking to mince words, while others are looking to build bridges between different religions (and I predict you will attack me on the part about the necessity of building bridges)… which is the more noble approach? Let’s ask Pope Benedict XVI and his predecessor JPII

You have some really insightful and intelligent comments 30Miller, why not start a thread of your own? You may have and I must have missed them… I apologize in advance if that is the case!!!

Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones

 

[Lion]

a ton

so… if someone asks me “When was the war of 1814?” I should answer 1814? Or should I add a few grams? :whacky:

 

[Lion]

For crying out loud, Sheeniac - if Damascus would simply post that he is not a teacher (not that there is anything wrong with that, to paraphrase Seinfeld), I would simply apologize and take his “correction” at face value, no more. Christianity certainly seems lost in a forum that likes to claim it’s presence.
Damascus spends tons of time misquoting me and putting false words in my mouth (read his series of posts) and then refuses to address any of my specific statements and questions regarding his posts. Then he wants to make this THE issue. And he also wants to lament about about getting off topic. Get real. I came to this thread and tried to engage Abdullah. And not only did Damascus insist on “interpreting” for Abdullah (none of which I found correct, I might add) but, as I said, Abdullah was doing a significantly better job communicating for himself.

Again! WOW :banghead:

For someone who proclaims righteousness through their written word, I’m a little surprised
In our country the expectation is that the the prosecuter has to prove their case… so let’s hear it…

IMHO you did not try to “engage” Abdullah… can someone do a “Google search” and tell me what word I’m looking for. But that is my opinion, Abdullah can defend himself if he so chooses.

BTW, as I read this post yet again, I don’t think Damascus was interpreting for the OP, but merely stating how he interpreted the OP’s posts… big difference!!! :yup:

 

[30miller]

WOW! :banghead:

30Miller, do you even know what you are arguing anymore???

Yes, I do.

I think it is funny that you had to use a google search to define “wherewithall” for the OP… did you not already know how to define it?

Funny??? You have a strange sense of humor Mr. Lion. The purpose of the Google was that I intended to teach Abdullah (remember him) how to look up words (in the event he didn’t know there were online dictionaries) and I wanted to be sure first that the definition for wherewithal (and yes, that is the spelling for those too “high on their own horses” to know any better - e.g. by using searches to look it up) was easily found. I then chose to mention that for Abdullah’s edification.

Try getting off your high horse

I think I just covered your equine issue (see aboe).

and try reading/understanding the intention of posts instead

Sorry, I obviously don’t have your powers. I can only read/understand words. I then ask questions to understand “intentions”. I notice many such as yourself tend not to do that. I will not be joining you in that anytime soon.

IMHO, you are being a bit naive and also confrontational. I have to wonder to what purpose

Whatever I am or am not, you are certainly not H (from your abreviation, in case you don’t get the reference).

And then you go on to confront someone who likely (and sorry Damascus I am indeed not trying to speak for you, but am giving voice to my perceptions), who probably agrees with you more than you realize.

Your powers of ‘reading intentions’ surface again. Amazing.

Again, IMHO

Please, enough with the HO. Thank you. Your post is anything but.

you appear to be looking to mince words,

Hate to do this as you have already stated that you find it “funny” when I use online resources. But I just went to the dictionary again and copied this for you: “not mince words (or one’s words) : to speak candidly and directly”. Just read those words and attempt to comprehend them. If you want to accuse me of wanting to NOT mince words, you are correct. But your accusation that I am “looking to mince words” is exactly INCORRECT.

while others are looking to build bridges between different religions (and I predict you will attack me on the part about the necessity of building bridges)… which is the more noble approach? Let’s ask Pope Benedict XVI and his predecessor JPII

No, let’s not ask them. They have a lot more important demands on them than your pissant (don’t get your feathers ruffled - it only means insignificant. Look it up ) argument.

You have some really insightful and intelligent comments 30Miller … and I must have missed them

Hmmmm. Let me read that for “intention”: First you declare that I have such comments, then you say that I don’t…Hmmm…Exactly how could you have missed the comments you just acknowledge yourself that I have. Please don’t answer. Thank you.

Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones

 

[30miller]

For someone who proclaims righteousness through their written word, I’m a little surprised
In our country the expectation is that the the prosecuter has to prove their case…

A legal scholar. Mr. Lion is impressive. Except for one small fact: In OUR country, a prosecutor is “…a person, esp. a public official, who institutes legal proceedings against someone…”. For that to happen there has to be a legal “issue” under discussion or in dispute. No court in OUR country would accept the issue of “whether or not Damascus is or was a teacher” as one to waste the courts time over. Hence, a prosecutor has no place in this discussion.

IMHO

There you go again, HO. You publish more HO HO HO’s than Santa. So, give the “IMHO” bit a rest. Thank you.

can someone do a “Google search” and tell me what word I’m looking for.

A continued display of arrogance and superiority. Incredible.

But that is my opinion, Abdullah can defend himself if he so chooses.

I agree.

BTW, as I read this post yet again, I don’t think Damascus was interpreting for the OP, but merely stating how he interpreted the OP’s posts… big difference!!!

I disagree.

 

[inJESUS]

Wa alaykum assalam ya Abdallah. Ahlan wa sahlan fi CAF

 

[Damascus]

:yawn:

So, 30 miller- still cant provide citations that the muslims can control what the media reports?
Are you still going to ignore the citations the OP provided you on muslims condemning violence?
Or come up with the alleged posts I suppossedly made where I was a teacher for 10 years?

BTW- where did I speak for the poster? I missed that one too.

You are really making friends here.

 

[blackrobe]

how i wish you will give me source of your information so i will be more enlightened… of course not your opinion but from the church authority.

Your first stop for the authoritative word can be Lumen Gentium, one of the 16 documents of Vatican II wherein is explained in very clear terms how salvation is available to all.

While salvation is exclusively through Jesus Christ and His Church, formal membership in the Church is not necessarily essential. *Lumen Gentium *is available and readable; it explains the matter much better than I can.

JSA

 

[Damascus]

Your first stop for the authoritative word can be Lumen Gentium, one of the 16 documents of Vatican II wherein is explained in very clear terms how salvation is available to all.

While salvation is exclusively through Jesus Christ and His Church, formal membership in the Church is not necessarily essential. *Lumen Gentium *is available and readable; it explains the matter much better than I can.

JSA

Good point! here it is:
vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html

 

[30miller]

So, 30 miller- still cant provide citations that the muslims can control what the media reports?

For the umpteenth time, Damascus: I never said “Muslims can CONTROL what the media reports”. I DID say that they could get this issue covered by the mainstream media and press IF THEY TRIED HARD ENOUGH. Big difference. Point being - THEY HAVEN’T TRIED. Please learn to read before you rant and especially before you attempt to put words in my mouth. Thank you.

Are you still going to ignore the citations the OP provided you on muslims condemning violence?

Yes, I am going to regard Abdullah’s citations as “non-responsive” to the question - which they are. What part don’t you get?

Or come up with the alleged posts I suppossedly made where I was a teacher for 10 years?

Alleged “…Posts…”? I NEVER said that. (Either plural or singular). I DEMAND you produce proof of this accusation. I DEMAND it. etc…etc…

BTW- where did I speak for the poster? I missed that one too.

Damascus quote: “I dont know if you are right or wrong, but Abdulla is wondering where you get this idea from”. You might try reading your own posts. Fortunately, I didn’t have to go through your 2,600 + posts to find THIS one.

You are really making friends here.

I *** U ME you are being sarcastic here. So be it.
I suggest you don’t portray the idea of trading anonymous keystrokes on a blog as something akin to a ‘friendship’. Watch MSNBC REPORTS if you want to see about making “friends” on blogs.

 

[Damascus]

30 miller- are you saying you did not claim my posts are how you came up with me being a teacher for 10 years?

Read your posts again.

If you found it once, certainly you can find it again no?

Need I remind you what the bible says about false accusations?

Certainly you are aware?

I hate to break it to ya, but with your post count I wonder if you are another poster that has been here before yet with another name now.

You sound awfully familliar.

That poster also could not back up any false accusations and as a result, dropped off the radar…

 

[30miller]

30 miller- are you saying you did not claim my posts are how you came up with me being a teacher for 10 years?

Answer the question, Damascus. To wit: " POSTS " by Damascus. I DEMAND you show proof that I said “POSTS” as you are charging. I DEMAND it…etc…FORUM RULES…etc…
To quote a great blogger here: “If you found it once, certainly you can find it again no?”. (By you, in case you didn’t notice it). So, present your evidence where I said “posts”. To quote you again “I DEMAND IT”.

Need I remind you what the bible says about false accusations?

Remind me of anything you like.
(For new readers: Welcome, everyone, to the Theater of The Absurd. For the uninitiated, the “false accusation” of which Damascus speaks is that he is a “teacher”).

I hate to break it to ya, but with your post count I wonder if you are another poster that has been here before yet with another name now.
You sound awfully familliar.

What amazing insight and intuition. Of course, I’d bet against it ANYTIME AND ANYWHERE and with real money. That’s how certain I am that there must have been too much kryptonite close to you when last you tried to use your amazing powers.
In the event you don’t get it - you are WRONG on all counts. Be happy to prove it to you.

 

[Damascus]

30 miller-

How about the one post and one accusation you made falsely against me?
About being a teacher for 10 years?

Does it make the false allegation any less false that you said it once?



when will you admit you lied?