Assault Rifles - reason for owning one or more

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I would be particularly interested in hearing from owners of AK-47s and AR-15s.

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Ed
 
For defense against today’s modern super animals, like the flying squirrel or the electric eel.
 
Any discussion of Assault Rifles is not appropriate to a Religious Forum.
In addition, you obviously are being provocative because it is illegal for any civilian in the US to own an AK-47 or AR-15, both of which are fully automatic military weapons. In other words, they are machine guns, just like the Tommy Gun.
In order to legally own an automatic weapon in the US, one must purchase a very expensive Federal Firearms License, which is almost impossible to get for the ordinary person.In addition, there are many Cities and States that prohibit ownership of such weapons.
What you probably mean are “look alikes” that have a cosmetic resemblance to the Military versions but are semi-automatifc. A semi-automatic firearm is one that requires pulling the trigger to fire one shot, An automatic weapon is one that fires continuously when the trigger is pulled. As stated before, these are illegal for civilians to own or posess.
As for the subject being inappropriate, Morality is attributed only to human beings, not to inaminate objects.
 
George_Stegmeir said:
Any discussion of Assault Rifles is not appropriate to a Religious Forum.
In addition, you obviously are being provocative because it is illegal for any civilian in the US to own an AK-47 or AR-15, both of which are fully automatic military weapons. In other words, they are machine guns, just like the Tommy Gun.
In order to legally own an automatic weapon in the US, one must purchase a very expensive Federal Firearms License, which is almost impossible to get for the ordinary person.In addition, there are many Cities and States that prohibit ownership of such weapons.
What you probably mean are “look alikes” that have a cosmetic resemblance to the Military versions but are semi-automatifc. A semi-automatic firearm is one that requires pulling the trigger to fire one shot, An automatic weapon is one that fires continuously when the trigger is pulled. As stated before, these are illegal for civilians to own or posess.
As for the subject being inappropriate, Morality is attributed only to human beings, not to inaminate objects.
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Which means human beings never use inanimate objects to kill others?

policymic.com/articles/23647/joseph-kelley-displays-ar-15-rifle-at-jc-penney-is-this-appropriate

Peace,
Ed
 
Because I want to be at least as well armed as the fool breaking down my front door. 🙂
 
George_Stegmeir said:
Any discussion of Assault Rifles is not appropriate to a Religious Forum.
In addition, you obviously are being provocative because it is illegal for any civilian in the US to own an AK-47 or AR-15, both of which are fully automatic military weapons. In other words, they are machine guns, just like the Tommy Gun.
In order to legally own an automatic weapon in the US, one must purchase a very expensive Federal Firearms License, which is almost impossible to get for the ordinary person.In addition, there are many Cities and States that prohibit ownership of such weapons.
What you probably mean are “look alikes” that have a cosmetic resemblance to the Military versions but are semi-automatifc. A semi-automatic firearm is one that requires pulling the trigger to fire one shot, An automatic weapon is one that fires continuously when the trigger is pulled. As stated before, these are illegal for civilians to own or posess.
As for the subject being inappropriate, Morality is attributed only to human beings, not to inaminate objects.
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What!?

No they are not illegal. Lots of people have AR-15 and AK47 rifles. There are semi-automatic versions of an AK47. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic version of the M16. These are all around very good rifles to own. Both for self-defense and for emergencies. The M1A is more my style, though.

And if rifles are inappropriate to Catholicism, then so was the longsword, so I guess the military orders were all inappropriate, even though they were awesome and saved half of Christendom from being dominated by Islam.
 
George_Stegmeir said:
In addition, you obviously are being provocative because it is illegal for any civilian in the US to own an AK-47 or AR-15, both of which are fully automatic military weapons. In other words, they are machine guns, just like the Tommy Gun.
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This part is incorrect sir. Semi-auto versions of the AK-47 are still called AK-47s. The AR-15 comes in semi auto only. The full auto version of this gun is the M16A4. It would be nice to see you correct this and apologize for calling the OP provocative. God bless.
 
Phaedra777 said:
Because I want to be at least as well armed as the fool breaking down my front door. 🙂
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Amazing how many illegal weapons, like the AK-47, fully automatic, end up in the hands of fools and gangstas. And how do you know what he’s carrying until you can see him?

Peace,
Ed 🙂
 
Rete said:
What!?

No they are not illegal. Lots of people have AR-15 and AK47 rifles. There are semi-automatic versions of an AK47. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic version of the M16. These are all around very good rifles to own. Both for self-defense and for emergencies. The M1A is more my style, though.

And if rifles are inappropriate to Catholicism, then so was the longsword, so I guess the military orders were all inappropriate, even though they were awesome and saved half of Christendom from being dominated by Islam.
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You beat me by 1 minute. lol
 
Internet says that the assault weapon ban signed by President Clinton expired in 2004. AR-15s are federally legal, though several states have enacted their own bans. Pretty sure that applies to AK-47s too. If internet can be trusted, that is.
 
edwest2 said:
Amazing how many illegal weapons, like the AK-47, fully automatic, end up in the hands of fools and gangstas. And how do you know what he’s carrying until you can see him?Peace,Ed 🙂
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Yes, it is amazing how many criminals are well-armed. I don’t have to know what he’s packing, I just have to know what he COULD be packing and that he, or they, mean my family no good.

Self-defense is a wonderful thing.
 
Rhubarb said:
Internet says that the assault weapon ban signed by President Clinton expired in 2004. AR-15s are federally legal, though several states have enacted their own bans. Pretty sure that applies to AK-47s too. If internet can be trusted, that is.
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I saw ARs at Walmart last week. Most gun stores in most States carry them.
 
Rete said:
What!?

No they are not illegal. Lots of people have AR-15 and AK47 rifles. There are semi-automatic versions of an AK47. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic version of the M16. These are all around very good rifles to own. Both for self-defense and for emergencies. The M1A is more my style, though.

And if rifles are inappropriate to Catholicism, then so was the longsword, so I guess the military orders were all inappropriate, even though they were awesome and saved half of Christendom from being dominated by Islam.
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👍
 
edwest2 said:
Amazing how many illegal weapons, like the AK-47, fully automatic, end up in the hands of fools and gangstas. And how do you know what he’s carrying until you can see him?

Peace,
Ed 🙂
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Security cams?🤷
 
edwest2 said:
I would be particularly interested in hearing from owners of AK-47s and AR-15s.

Peace,
Ed
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My husband collects army stuff. We have a lot of “stuff”. I think it is so cool. I also live in a very Pro-Gun state. Funny we have a very LOW murder rate. Yet, Chicago is strict and they are the worse city to live in. There are men that are into race cars. I don’t know anyone personally that was accidentally or other wise hurt by a gun. Yet have 4 family/friends who were killed by cars.
 
Why should I pay for security cams? Anyone busting down my door means me and my family no good and would likely not be deterred by a camera. But we do know what will stop them. 🙂
 
As far as a philosophical reason for owning such a rifle…

It’s for two primary purposes, one individual, the other collective. The right to bear arms is a fundamental human right which no government can legitimately deprive the people. At the individual level, it represents the right to life. Every human being has an intrinsic right to life, and the right to defend their life according to natural law. At the collective level, every People has the right of self-government. If the government deprives the people of the right to bear arms, then the government has rendered self-government a sham, if it ever even existed in that nation in the first place. That’s at best. The day after the government seizes the long rifles is the day you will get whatever government you get. You will have no choice in the matter. Democracy will be even more a sham than what we have today.

There are very solid reasons for stable and productive members of a community to keep and bear arms. They apply to the individual, the family, and the community as a whole. We have an obligation to protect and serve our communities, and to help keep them stable in hard times. Keeping and bearing arms in that sense is also an act of charity towards your neighbors. It keeps them safe. By there being even a small percentage of such persons, and no criminal knowing who is armed, all members of the community will enjoy some level of protection by the uncertainty which drives some number of criminals to avoid crimes or travel elsewhere.
 
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