Assumption not celebrated at my parish?!

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As you all know, yesterday (August 15th) was the Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Mother. We went to Saturday evening mass at my parish last night, and the Assumption was not celebrated! It was the vigil mass for the 20th Sunday of Ordinary Time, like any normal Saturday. The Assumption wasn’t even mentioned: there were green vestments, no Marian hymns, no Magnificat, no procession, nothing. Now, I know that in the USA if a holy day of obligation falls on a Saturday or Monday it can be transferred to Sunday, but doesn’t that mean if the Assumption were celebrated today (August 16th, and I don’t know if it was), wouldn’t yesterday have been the vigil of the Assumption anyway? Am I wrong on this or did my parish drop the ball? Thanks everyone.
 
The Saturday evening Mass would have been the anticipated Mass for Sunday, so there was no mention of the Assumption. Had you gone to Mass on Saturday morning, you would have heard the Mass for the Assumption.
 
Chatter163 said:
The Saturday evening Mass would have been the anticipated Mass for Sunday, so there was no mention of the Assumption. Had you gone to Mass on Saturday morning, you would have heard the Mass for the Assumption.
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If the Assumption (and other holy days of obligation that don’t occur on a Sunday) are abrogated to Sunday, why wouldn’t it be brought up during Sunday Mass?
At the RCC I attend, the Assumption was not mentioned at Mass this morning.
 
The Holy Day of Obligation was abrogated - that is, dismissed. The feast of the Assumption would only be celebrated on Saturday, not Sunday. The Assumption wasn’t moved; what your parishes did was correct.
 
Graceful_Lamb said:
If the Assumption (and other holy days of obligation that don’t occur on a Sunday) are abrogated to Sunday, why wouldn’t it be brought up during Sunday Mass?
At the RCC I attend, the Assumption was not mentioned at Mass this morning.
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Once again: there is no such thing as “abrogated to Sunday”. This is a nonsense phrase.

The obligation to attend Mass on Assumption was abrogated in my diocese. It was not transferred to Sunday as some other feasts are, such as Ascension of the Lord. The only Mass celebrating Assumption was the daily Mass on Saturday morning, although we honored Our Lady on Saturday evening with a Marian song as prelude, before Mass began.
 
Elizium23 said:
Once again: there is no such thing as “abrogated to Sunday”. This is a nonsense phrase.

The obligation to attend Mass on Assumption was abrogated in my diocese. It was not transferred to Sunday as some other feasts are, such as Ascension of the Lord. The only Mass celebrating Assumption was the daily Mass on Saturday morning, although we honored Our Lady on Saturday evening with a Marian song as prelude, before Mass began.
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I apologize. I didn’t know there wasn’t such a thing. However, “This is a nonsense phrase,” doesn’t sound very charitable, either.

I am currently researching the Catholic church.
 
Vivat_Christus said:
Now, I know that in the USA if a holy day of obligation falls on a Saturday or Monday it can be transferred to Sunday, but doesn’t that mean if the Assumption were celebrated today (August 16th, and I don’t know if it was), wouldn’t yesterday have been the vigil of the Assumption anyway? Am I wrong on this or did my parish drop the ball? Thanks everyone.
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The Assumption is not a solemnity that would get transferred to the nearest Sunday, unlike how the Ascension of Our Lord is transferred to the following Sunday and overrides the Seventh Sunday of Easter in some dioceses.

Saturday, August 15th was a holy day, but it was not a holy day of obligation. When a solemnity falls on a Saturday or Monday in the USA, the obligation to attend Mass is dispensed. The Mass for the Assumption would have been said earlier in the day on Saturday, and the Mass on Saturday evening would have been in anticipation of the Twentieth Sunday in Ordinary Time.

Now, when August 15th falls on a Sunday, the Assumption trumps the Sunday of Ordinary Time. The readings would be those for the Assumption, and white liturgical vestments would be used.
 
I spent a year being reacquainted with the church’s liturgical calendar, feast days, vigils, fasting days, etc but at an Eastern Orthodox parish. Still can’t get used to the term, ordinary time. My home parish is Eastern Catholic now, so Sat was the Dormition of Mary, Sun was 13th Sun of Pentecost. Just seems to fit my old brain better.

Sorry you missed it, OP.
 
I just try to treat every day ending in the letter y as a holy day.
 
Thanks everyone for your responses. I guess now I get to look forward to next year! 🙂
 
Vivat_Christus said:
Thanks everyone for your responses. I guess now I get to look forward to next year! 🙂
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Actually, next year it falls on a Monday, so for places where the obligation is removed for a Saturday, it’s generally also removed for a Monday. There should be daily Mass, at which the Assumption is celebrated, but yet again it might not be a holyday of obligation…
 
Graceful_Lamb said:
I apologize. I didn’t know there wasn’t such a thing. However, “This is a nonsense phrase,” doesn’t sound very charitable, either.

I am currently researching the Catholic church.
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:hug3: I think that one’s tone doesn’t come through very well in text. I try to assume people mean well and aren’t condescending, even though sometimes I will read a line and think “Hmmph.”

It’s good to have you here. Keep on researching. It’s a pretty good bunch of people on this forum with lots and lots of knowledge, including Elizium23. 🙂
 
Not exactly…Next year it falls on a Monday. (leap year)

This is what our Archdiocese put out as an explanation:

To: All Priests, Deacons and Directors of Liturgy
From: Office for Divine Worship

The Solemnity of The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary falls on Saturday, August 15, 2015, and on Monday, August 15, 2016. Neither of these Solemnities are holy days of obligation in the USA.

While the Solemnity is not celebrated as a holy day of obligation, it remains a solemnity. This means that ritual masses such as Nuptial Masses, Masses for Various Needs, and Votive Masses are not permitted. However, a wedding or confirmation may occur at Mass on August 15. In these cases, the formulary for the Assumption is used. When either the Rite of Marriage or the Rite of Confirmation is added, one of the readings from the marriage or confirmation Mass options may be used in place of one of the Assumption readings. Please check the Rite of Marriage, Choice of Rite, no. 11 for more information.

Masses for the Dead are permitted on August 15th because the Solemnity is not celebrated as a holy day of obligation.

Evening Prayer II of the Solemnity and Night Prayer II are used on Saturday evening instead of the Sunday schemas. Night Prayer II closes with the final anthem Ave, Regina cælorum.
 
Cor_ad_Cor said:
The Holy Day of Obligation was abrogated - that is, dismissed. The feast of the Assumption would only be celebrated on Saturday, not Sunday. The Assumption wasn’t moved; what your parishes did was correct.
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It did get transferred in some countries from Saturday to Sunday. We celebrated the Assumption at all the Saturday Vigil and Sunday Masses this weekend.

The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 15 August

*Holyday of Obligation
•In England and Wales when the celebration falls on either a Saturday or a Monday it is transferred to the Sunday.
•Replaces 20th Sunday in Ordinary Time when it falls on a Sunday.
ColourWhite MassProper: Vigil & during the Day
 
liturgyluver said:
It did get transferred in some countries from Saturday to Sunday. We celebrated the Assumption at all the Saturday Vigil and Sunday Masses this weekend.

The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 15 August

*Holyday of Obligation
•In England and Wales when the celebration falls on either a Saturday or a Monday it is transferred to the Sunday.
•Replaces 20th Sunday in Ordinary Time when it falls on a Sunday.
ColourWhite MassProper: Vigil & during the Day
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In England yes, apparently so. In the U.S. it did not.
 
pianistclare said:
In England yes, apparently so. In the U.S. it did not.
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It doesn’t transfer in the E.F. calendar either. The obligation is removed, depending on diocesan policy, but the celebration does not.

The Saturday 4:00pm OF Mass was green vestments for Ordinary Time. The Saturday 6:00pm E.F. was White Vestments for the Solemnity.
 
Brendan said:
It doesn’t transfer in the E.F. calendar either. The obligation is removed, depending on diocesan policy, but the celebration does not.

The Saturday 4:00pm OF Mass was green vestments for Ordinary Time. The Saturday 6:00pm E.F. was White Vestments for the Solemnity.
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Interesting. Not here in the Archdiocese of Atlanta.
 
pianistclare said:
Interesting. Not here in the Archdiocese of Atlanta.
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According to the Ecclesia Dei, the Holy Days are to be held in common. If the obligation is removed for the O.F., it is removed for the E.F.

Likewise if the Feast was actually MOVED, so that the celebration of the Solemnity was moved to the Sunday. If that was done in Atlanta, that Sunday was the celebration of the Solemnity of the Assumption, then you would be correct.

If the celebration was NOT moved to Sunday, that Sunday was celebrated as Ordinary Time, then the celebration of the Solemnity remained in the E.F. and the E.F. liturgical calendar takes precedence, and the correct color should have been White with the reading specified for Aug 15, the Feast of the Assumption.
 
Brendan said:
According to the Ecclesia Dei, the Holy Days are to be held in common. If the obligation is removed for the O.F., it is removed for the E.F.

Likewise if the Feast was actually MOVED, so that the celebration of the Solemnity was moved to the Sunday. If that was done in Atlanta, that Sunday was the celebration of the Solemnity of the Assumption, then you would be correct.

If the celebration was NOT moved to Sunday, that Sunday was celebrated as Ordinary Time, then the celebration of the Solemnity remained in the E.F. and the E.F. liturgical calendar takes precedence, and the correct color should have been White with the reading specified for Aug 15, the Feast of the Assumption.
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The readings were usccb.org/bible/readings/081615.cfm
Sat and Sunday.
 
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