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HailMary
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I’d bet pretty heavily St.Joseph is in Heaven body and soul.
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That would be nice.
Nevertheless, the Church is silent on the matter, but she does hold St. Joseph as the patron of a happy death.
I think the prudent thing for Catholics to do is accept that St. Joseph died, and leave it at that. St. Joseph is my favorite saint, but there has never been any popular devotion or even rumors as to any assumption. As such, anything else is speculation, and there is no Christological need for it, unlike the Marian Assumption.
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Genesis315
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A heretican sect, the Palmarians (who have their own antipope) hold that he was assumed–but that was the time I had ever heard of that belief.
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HailMary
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Surely believing he was assumed would not contradict scripture since he was more righteous than Enoch.
But the difference is that the assumption of Enoch is supported by Scripture. Nothing in Scripture or Tradition supports the assumption of St. Joseph, and it has not even achieved the status of popular piety within the Church. For it to start now would be novel, but not supported in ancient orthodox belief or devotion.
I therefore think to adhere to it would be potentially unsafe.
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I did some research and I found that the assumption of St Joseph has some measure of support in theologians and in the magisterium. It’s not something “novel” or “unsafe” as someone suggested.
*St. Joseph assumed into heaven?
Theologians have raised the question of Saint Joseph’s assumption into heaven. Was Joseph granted the privilege of being taken to heaven in body as well as in soul? Many theologians have based their belief in the resurrection of Joseph into heaven on the words of Saint Matthew: "Many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep arose; and coming forth out of the tombs after His resurrection, they came into the holy city and appeared to many"32.
There is not unanimous agreement among the exegetes that this text can be used as a real proof of his assumption. Nevertheless, there are some noted scholars who have made the claim that those who rose at that time died no more and rose to heaven with Christ. Some of them think Joseph must certainly have been one of this group; and there are not lacking strong reasons for thinking this must be so.
On May 26, 1960 Pope John XXIII in his homily for the feast of the Ascension of Our Lord made a statement that the Assumption to Saint Joseph is worthy of pious belief (). He also stated that he believed the same privilege was accorded to Saint John the Baptist33. This is the first time that a Pope has ever made a public statement on the subject and the fact should offer great reassurance to those who feel it would be contrary to their religious sentiments to imagine Christ refusing Joseph this crowning grace. Pope John’s words are a guarantee that such a belief is truly prudent and therefore can no longer be classified as a “pious exaggeration”.*
ewtn.com/library/MARY/THEOINTR.htm
*St. Joseph assumed into heaven?
Theologians have raised the question of Saint Joseph’s assumption into heaven. Was Joseph granted the privilege of being taken to heaven in body as well as in soul? Many theologians have based their belief in the resurrection of Joseph into heaven on the words of Saint Matthew: "Many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep arose; and coming forth out of the tombs after His resurrection, they came into the holy city and appeared to many"32.
There is not unanimous agreement among the exegetes that this text can be used as a real proof of his assumption. Nevertheless, there are some noted scholars who have made the claim that those who rose at that time died no more and rose to heaven with Christ. Some of them think Joseph must certainly have been one of this group; and there are not lacking strong reasons for thinking this must be so.
On May 26, 1960 Pope John XXIII in his homily for the feast of the Ascension of Our Lord made a statement that the Assumption to Saint Joseph is worthy of pious belief (). He also stated that he believed the same privilege was accorded to Saint John the Baptist33. This is the first time that a Pope has ever made a public statement on the subject and the fact should offer great reassurance to those who feel it would be contrary to their religious sentiments to imagine Christ refusing Joseph this crowning grace. Pope John’s words are a guarantee that such a belief is truly prudent and therefore can no longer be classified as a “pious exaggeration”.*
ewtn.com/library/MARY/THEOINTR.htm
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