Assurance of Salvation and Despair

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Hey everyone, I am currently a Protestant but I do have a question as it related to assurance of salvation in the Catholic Church. Council of Trent seemed to deny assurance in Canon 16. If this is the case, then how does the Catholic Church comfort those who are going through spiritual distress as it relates to their salvation and final perseverance? I mean, doesn’t Romans 5:1 say that being justified by faith we have peace with God? I know some people say that we can find comfort in the sacraments especially that of the absolution given by the priest for the forgiveness of mortal sins, but even Trent seems to say that we can’t find sufficient comfort in that (the second quote above).
Moreover, people can also say that we ought not to doubt the mercy of God or the sufficiency of the merits, but again, Trent doesn’t allow for their to be enough comfort in that. I heard by some people that one of the reasons the Reformation spread quickly was because people were always in torment and bondage to fear on whether they would be saved or condemned. For them, faith alone wasn’t a license to sin, God forbid anyone should use it as such, but instead it was a refuge to run to when their consciences would ring and condemn them for the sins they’ve committed. I’m currently reading John Owen (an English Puritan), and he said this, “Justification by faith ‘is the refuge, the only refuge, of distressed consciences, wherein they may find rest and peace.” He also suggests that the reason why so many Catholics are so ardent in denying faith alone is because they haven’t been convicted of their sins sufficiently and that they can’t sympathize with the trembling soul who fears that he will be damned. He said this about those times: “The first reformers found their consciences so immersed in darkness, so pressed and harassed with fears and terrors, and so lacking in steady guidance as to how to obtain peace with God, that they inquired after the truth in this matter. All men in those days were either kept in bondage to fear by their convictions of sin, or they were sent for relief to indulgences, priestly pardons, penances, pilgrimages, personal works, and doing more than was expected of others. They were kept under the chains of darkness and purgatory until the last day.”
And again, Owen asserts that the reasons why those Catholics at the time were so immersed in the intercession of the Saints, penance, etc, was because they tried to find anything they could to prevent themselves from falling into despair. As Owen says, “Expiatory sacrifices for the dead and dying, confessionals with authoritative absolution, penances…the merit and intercession of departed saints or angels, purgatory, and the whole of monastic devotion still depend on them. They are all invented to pacify the consciences of men, or to divert them from responding to the law of God.”
So with all this stated, the question remains, how do Catholics truly comfort someone who is in spiritual distress and agony over their souls? I’m not talking about religious ocd or scruples, but an actual and genuine trembling and terror. Thanks for reading.
 
Sorry to hear of your travails. First: We live in an age of anxiety and over-thinking. God keeps it simple, as He is utter simplicity. The devil is in complication - in the details.

Perseverance is a lifelong habit. “He who perseveres to the end will be saved” - we are not intended to have the knowledge now. Practice the virtues which oppose the vices and deadly sins. Focus on the virtues, heaven, the narrow path…

…and not on the ditch, the pit, the flames of hell. Leave those to the poor souls who have willingly resisted and opposed God.

We have the Sacraments, Keep up on them and you have a sure hope of salvation. And, we do not hope for what we have. We hope for the promise to be fulfilled. Are we ever 100% certain of salvation?

No! We become spiritually lazy and fall back into the vices if we assume we are saved. Read Saint Paul between the lines: fight the good fight, run the race as if to win, remain in God’s grace.

You must unlearn error - the errors taught by the reformation. Funny thing: Even though Catholics can never be 100% certain of salvation, I know of no one (except anxiety sufferers) who fear it, dwell on it, are preoccupied with it.

God desires us in heaven and did not allow His Son to be murdered without reason. He did not make His promise to the air, but to souls who listen and respond. He shows us the narrow path. He leads and guides us. He forgives!

We can never - never - merit heaven, as we are finite and desire an infinite reward. Impossible without God’s grace standing in the gap. Yet, His strength, mercy and grace lead us along in that sure hope.
 
Canon XVI speaks against having an “absolute and infallible certainty” of having final perseverance. In other words presumption that oneself will persevere to the end. Presumption is prideful and wrong.

By contrast, doing the best you can and then trusting in God’s mercy and love to help you the rest of the way is not presumptuous or prideful. You’re saying, “I have done my best, I repent and I trust in God’s infinite mercy and love to take care of me.” Not, “I’m absolutely and infallibly certain I’m going to have final perseverance and thus get salvation.”

There’s a difference.
 
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I would further add on to your post that you are referencing one guy, Owen, some Protestant Puritan. Not exacly a reliable expert on Catholic teaching if you ask me. Probably had a self-justifying agenda, I reckon.

His opinion doesn’t reflect the whole universe of thought in his time. Many Catholic saints back then, and I suspect also many Catholic laypeople, also found peace with God when they were living in a daily relationship with God and not turning to God as a quick fix for a get-out-of-hell free card.
The same holds true today.

We have many teachings from the Doctors of the Church and from other great saints that focus on God’s mercy and how to be personally holy on a day-to-day basis, and thus help us avoid the pointless thrashing around that Owen describes. We even have a deeper understanding of Christ’s Divine Mercy today and more access to the Blessed Sacrament than Catholics did back then. All these things help us.

We also have a better understanding of scruples, which no doubt plagued many people back then as it does today. This goes hand in hand with our better understanding of mental disorders in general.

In short - It’s really not all that hard to live a life without needing to worry about hell fire or even purgatory fire every minute. And it’s really not all that hard to guide others to do so, too. It’s unfortunate that some Protestants and even some Catholics got wrong-headed ideas in the past, or even that they get wrong-headed ideas today, but people do it to themselves. If they love and trust God enough day-to-day then they don’t have to live that way in a constant state of fear. Love is letting go of fear. Perfect love drives out fear, as 1 John 4 says.
 
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I see your guys’ point. But still. Being saved seems nearly impossible. The road to heaven seems to be fraught with not only outward crosses, but inward trials. By that I mean the struggle with sin, the uncertainty of grace, the easiness to lose the state of grace, despair and discouragement mounting up and creeping in, etc. I don’t understand how anyone can not be discouraged at the prospect of these things. Heaven is so uncertain to reach and to get there takes the most arduous and strenuous effort. It’s so hard that it’s possible to say that many on this Catholic Forum might not get there though they try ever so hard. As St. Anselm said, “ ‘If you would be quite sure of your salvation, strive to be among the fewest of the few. Do not follow the majority of mankind, but follow those who renounce the world and never relax their efforts day or night so that they may attain everlasting blessedness.’“ Oh man! How can anyone here hope to attain this blessedness. To be “among the fewest of the few” is near impossible for someone like me whose sins are as red as dye. If this is the requirement for heaven then I know assuredly that I will perish. How can none be discouraged to hear the words of St. Benedict Joseph Labre when he says, “ 'Meditate on the horrors of Hell which will last for eternity because of one easily-committed mortal sin. Try hard to be among the few who are chosen. Think of the eternal flames of Hell, and how few there are that are saved.”
 
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How can none be discouraged to hear the words of St. Benedict Joseph Labre when he says, “ 'Meditate on the horrors of Hell which will last for eternity because of one easily-committed mortal sin.
Take stuff like this with a grain of salt. The quotes of Saints that you see aren’t some kind of divine proclamation, but almost always the quotes are just a reflection of the way that they saw things, and they are often misunderstood.
 
Being saved seems nearly impossible.
Do you love God? Do you accept Jesus Christ as your savior? Are you baptized? Do you try every day to avoid sin, keep God’s commandments, and love God and your neighbor? Do you pray daily? And, if you were Catholic, I’d be asking if you confess and attend Mass/ receive Communion frequently.

Do all those things and you’ve got a good shot at salvation, at the very least.

It’s really nothing to worry about if you are doing your best at all of the above. The great saints stress loving God and not worrying. That doesn’t mean you throw the commandment book out of the window and do what you want, but if you’re spending each day focused on God, sin looks less attractive. I know this because I sinned, a lot, for years, big sins, sins that even atheists would disapprove. Now I’m back and I don’t presume but I trust, and I don’t worry about salvation.

God doesn’t WANT to send people to hell. He will do anything possible to avoid that.
 
‘He who loves God with all his heart does not fear death or punishment or judgment or hell,
because perfect love assures access to God. It is no wonder that he who still delights in sin fears death and judgment. It is good, however, that even if love does not as yet restrain you from evil, at least the fear of hell does. The man who casts aside the fear of God cannot continue long in goodness but will
quickly fall into the snares of the devil.’ - The Imitation of Christ
 
The “fear of God” we’re supposed to hold on to is being awed at God’s greatness, not the servile fear of being sent to Hell if we screw up.

Fear of Hell is like when kids are afraid to disobey their parents because they fear punishment. When they get a little older, they’re less worried about being grounded, but more worried about their parent being upset with them and expressing sadness or disappointment or anger, because they love their parent and don’t want a rift in the relationship.
 
Salvation isn’t based on MY personal level of trust. We may have a guarded yet strong level of assurance, based on God’s promises and trustworthiness and the fruit that we observe in our lives but God, alone, knows with 100% certainty whose names are written in the Book of Life and whose are not. It would be presumptuous to believe otherwise in light of our human limitations, weaknesses, and tendency to sin. Humility is called for.

Meanwhile we’re to wash our robes; we’re to put our nose to the grindstone and work out our salvation with He who works in us. Jesus’ burden is light, not non-existent. What we do with the gift of justification given to us, and with any other grace that follows is what determines our eternal destiny, as we “invest” our “talents”.
 
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What we do with the gift of justification given to us, and with any other grace that follows is what determines our eternal destiny, as we “invest” our “talents”.
No offense, but this makes it sound like the guy who lives a not very good life but sincerely repents on his deathbed is probably not going to be saved, and we know that’s not the case. What you’ve expressed here sounds more like my Presbyterian in-laws than any Catholics I know.

Yes, we’re supposed to try to use the graces God gives us for good works, but as you said God decides and he’s not doing that solely based on a list of return on investment.
 
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Sincerely repenting on ones deathbed is the right thing to do at the time, the right “investment” if that’s all he can do. Why wouldn’t that please God immensely so long as it isn’t just some contrived bit of self-serving hypocrisy? Now…if he were suddenly healed and able to get up and continue to live, much more would be expected of him.
 
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Yes, we’re supposed to try to use the graces God gives us for good works, but as you said God decides and he’s not doing that solely based on a list of return on investment.
God judges by the heart, which He knows far better than us. The real criteria for judgment according to Christian teaching, echoed by the catechism in the words of St John of the Cross:
At the evening of life we shall be judged on our love.”
 
On this we can agree, for sure.

I also think what you said in your first post would be understood by most longtime Catholics just fine. Little children are taught to use their talents well and it doesn’t turn them into Jansenists. In addition, I’m not trying to advocate the fluffy God-is-love-so-don’t -worry-about-sin teachings that some of us heard way too much of in the 70s. Actions do matter.

I only commented as I did because this thread was started by a non-Catholic who might not have all the context.
 
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The “fear of God” we’re supposed to hold on to is being awed at God’s greatness, not the servile fear of being sent to Hell if we screw up.

Fear of Hell is like when kids are afraid to disobey their parents because they fear punishment. When they get a little older, they’re less worried about being grounded, but more worried about their parent being upset with them and expressing sadness or disappointment or anger, because they love their parent and don’t want a rift in the relationship.
Yes, fear should give way to love. I appreciate the words of St Basil of Caesarea, a fourth century bishop, on this matter:
If we turn away from evil out of fear of punishment, we are in the position of slaves. If we pursue the enticement of wages, . . . we resemble mercenaries. Finally if we obey for the sake of the good itself and out of love for him who commands . . . we are in the position of children.”
 
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I don’t understand how anyone can not be discouraged at the prospect of these things. Heaven is so uncertain to reach and to get there takes the most arduous and strenuous effort. It’s so hard that it’s possible to say that many on this Catholic Forum might not get there though they try ever so hard.
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Oh man! How can anyone here hope to attain this blessedness. To be “among the fewest of the few” is near impossible for someone like me whose sins are as red as dye.
Again, try not to overthink things. Have you checked out the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) for the official teaching on this?

Part of me wants to ask, Why do you hate G_D? I hear some of these preachers on TV and the radio, and it seems that they believe that G_D paces along the edge of heaven, trembling in anticipation, just WAITING for the chance to condemn someone to hell, and you can avoid this only by making this one assertion, to claim Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.

This is not only dangerous, it is un-scriptural. It is dangerous in the way others on this thread have mentioned, that believing you are assured of heaven REGARDLESS of sins you commit after making this declaration, removes most if not all incentive to improve yourself spiritually through prayer, worship, and acts of charity. It is un-scriptural because the Great Commission states otherwise: Mark 16:16 says, “Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved…”; Matt 28:19 commands baptism in the Trinitarian formula. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats shows it is our actions that will determine our ultimate fate. NOWHERE does it say “Whoever believes and makes me their personal Lord and Savior will be saved.” So make sure you’re baptized in the Trinitarian Formula.

As for the second part of your anxiety, that “(being) “among the fewest of the few” is near impossible for someone like me whose sins are as red as dye,” you’re right. It IS impossible. IF (and this is important) IF you expect it to be an immediate and lifelong transformation. Just as you cannot immediately lose 20 lbs the day you start your diet, you must start in smaller ways to learn to break the bad habits and encourage the good habits of nutrition.

This transformation is NOT the destination. The transformation is part of a process, a journey, to lead to the destination, which is Union and Communion with G_D in Heaven. You can’t do this without the Holy Spirit, and if you ask Him He WILL help and guide you. Not immediately (although that has been known to happen) and not without suffering. He will guide you in the small steps, the tiny actions, that will lead you more and more towards the destination. And you do this by asking G_D every morning upon waking, and every evening before sleeping, to continue to help you in your journey. It will take years, but remember to look not at the years, but at the daily struggles, failures, and advances you make and will continue to make.

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Remember always, that G_D does NOT want to lose you to the Evil One, and will do not JUST everything in His power, but everything you will ALLOW Him to do, to make sure that doesn’t happen. (Remember: He sent His only Son to be tortured to death for you, so He’s not going to abandon you!) You have the entire Heavenly Court of angels and saints to pray with and for you, if you but ask. And if you should die before you believe you have accomplished this goal, then the mere fact that you were working towards Him on this journey is something that you should believe will allow you to be admitted to Heaven. Not by any merits or actions of your own, but by allowing G_D to work with and in you in the ways HE knows is best; i.e., by loving and trusting Him.

So for this week’s assignment, find and read an introduction to “Divine Mercy In My Soul” by Saint Sr. Faustina. Be prepared to defend and discuss the primary message of this work, that Jesus, in His Divine Mercy, will help you, even if your sins are red as dye.

Litany of Trust

 
I hear some of these preachers on TV and the radio, and it seems that they believe that G_D paces along the edge of heaven, trembling in anticipation, just WAITING for the chance to condemn someone to hell, and you can avoid this only by making this one assertion, to claim Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.

This is not only dangerous, it is un-scriptural. It is dangerous in the way others on this thread have mentioned, that believing you are assured of heaven REGARDLESS of sins you commit after making this declaration, removes most if not all incentive to improve yourself spiritually through prayer, worship, and acts of charity.
It’s also dangerous because it’s simply not a true or correct picture of who God is or how God is. It’s a fundamental misconception of God.
There is no motivation to build a spiritual relationship with an angry, vindictive, nit-picky God.
 
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