Assyrian church of the east

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They themselves say they are not nestorian that is the whole deal was a scandal and misunderstanding? Also didn’t they affirm the same christology as the RCC at the joint pontifical council?
The ACoE isn’t Nestorian … however, they also don’t believe that Nestorius ever held the heresy that is attributed to (and named for) him, and I believe that some of the more hardcore in the ACoE object to that heresy being called “Nestorianism”. It’s possible that the ones that Andrew met were of that sort (or who knows, they could have actually been Nestorian in the usual sense of the term).
 
The Church of the East is the heirs of those condemned for Nestorianism. It is an interesting question whether any of those so condemned did indeed hold the views of which they were accused by their enemies (in very dubious circumstances); but let’s not let ourselves get confused by modern attempts to blur the distinctions in the interest of promoting reunion.

The “mountain Nestorians” of what is today Iraq have a continuous history from antiquity. There are around 10,000 of them left today.
 
The ACoE isn’t Nestorian … however, they also don’t believe that Nestorius ever held the heresy that is attributed to (and named for) him, and I believe that some of the more hardcore in the ACoE object to that heresy being called “Nestorianism”. It’s possible that the ones that Andrew met were of that sort (or who knows, they could have actually been Nestorian in the usual sense of the term).
The clerics there got very upset when we were talking. They emphatically stated that Our Lady is not Theotokos, but only the mother of the human portion of Jesus. They seemed to divide Jesus into two separate persons. The Divine Jesus and the human Jesus.

I might have been confused, and this was several years ago before I knew all the theological technicalities. This was radically different from what I was taught in the Orthodox church and I interpretted it as Nestorian.
 
To the OP - you might be interested in Vic Alexander’s website v-a.com/index.html . I believe he belongs to the Assyrian church. Apparently his life’s work has been to translate the scriptures from Ancient Aramaic to English. Some of the books of his translation can be read on the site. You can also hear the Our Father spoken in Ancient Aramaic as Jesus would have said it. I really enjoy reading the Gospels as he has translated them.

Several years ago I sent him an e-mail because I had a question about the Muslim belief that Muhammed is foretold in John 14:26 when Jesus is actually promising to send the Holy Spirit. He responded to me fairly quickly, so if you have questions I’m sure he would be more than happy to answer them.
 
First on their Nestorianism: I had a hostel-mate in college who was an Iraqi Assyrian and he had a prayer rug as a gift from his mother. It had the picture of the OLPH woven into it with the ‘theotokos’ at the corner. Nestorians? If they ever were, they are not anymore - not this guy’s family anyway.

There was a declaration between the Assyrains and the Vatican (in 90s, just after my encounter with my hostel-mate) that there is no substantial difference in the doctrines of the two churches. I guess, the only thing to sort out is which bishop will take over in which diocese if the churches were to reunite (a more intractable issue than any doctrine).

As far as I know they are an ‘ethnic enclave’ but I wouldn’t like to describe them as such. However, there is a small Chaldean Syriac Church which is a Malabarese church in Kerala, India in communion with the ACoE. Sadly, it is not the remnant of the original St Thomas Christians in India (that would still be the Syro-Malabarese) but another breakaway faction which then went to Baghdad to get their bishops.
 
From what the Nestorians themselves claim, they agree with Nestorius. They venerate him (and other hated heretics like Theodore of Mopsuestia) for what they feel to be his right theology. So I find these ideas that maybe Nestorius wasn’t a ‘Nestorian’, and therefore it is wrong to call the Nestorians by that name to be very strange indeed. Again, listen to what they say that the video (I’ve posted it before; sorry, it’s the only thing I’ve been to find online translated into English by contemporary representatives of this church, rather than unofficial “fan sites” of varying quality). They say that Nestorius was concerned that calling St. Mary Theotokos would introduce confusion into the Holy Trinity by somehow making her the origin of Christ’s divinity, so therefore he was right in objecting that she was only the mother of his “human aspect” or whatever, and thus only mother of Christ. You can hear their confusion when the researcher says “nobody can tell me that when Christ was six years old, God was six years old”, as though the incarnation was the “beginning” of the Son. This is in direct contradiction with the original 325 wording of the Nicene Creed, which had been accepted by the East Syrians. Of the text that was later omitted in Constantinople in 381 (after the Nestorians had left the Church; so the version they had received like contained this), we read:

But those who say: ‘There was a time when he was not;’ and ‘He was not before he was made;’ and ‘He was made out of nothing,’ or ‘He is of another substance’ or ‘essence,’ or ‘The Son of God is created,’ or ‘changeable,’ or ‘alterable’—they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.

I don’t buy this whole rehabilitation of the Nestorians nonsense, as they are at variance with the Orthodox faith according to what they affirm as Nestorius’ right teaching (again, according to their own words, to remove the “well, Nestorius was maligned unfairly” idea; this is the people who venerate him saying that he taught such a disjunction between Jesus the man and Christ the divine Savior, and that this disjunction is right because God cannot be six years old or some such stupidity). They’re heretics based on what they themselves affirm, plain and simple, regardless of what might have been on Jimkhong’s roommate’s prayer mat. (cf. Copts, it should be said, often make inappropriate use of Roman Catholic or Latin-influenced religious art in their churches; this does not mean that we believe as the Latins do.)

In the end, the last word as far as I will hear it goes to our father HH St. Athanasius the Apostolic, the staunch defender of Orthodoxy who says in his defense of the Creed of Nicaea (written sometime between 346 and 356 AD):

“Further, let every corporeal reference be banished on this subject; and transcending every imagination of sense, let us, with pure understanding and with mind alone, apprehend the genuine relation of son to father, and the Word’s proper relation towards God, and the unvarying likeness of the radiance towards the light: for as the words ‘Offspring’ and ‘Son’ bear, and are meant to bear, no human sense, but one suitable to God, in like manner when we hear the phrase ‘one in essence,’ let us not fall upon human senses, and imagine partitions and divisions of the Godhead, but as having our thoughts directed to things immaterial, let us preserve undivided the oneness of nature and the identity of light; for this is proper to a son as regards a father, and in this is shewn that God is truly Father of the Word.”
 
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