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I’ve a sibling that was born catholic, but taken other paths. She claims she went to Japan last night, to visit her former exchange student. Thing is she never left her bed to this. I couldn’t believe I was hearing this, though I know she is like this, and at that shocking moment, nothing comes to mind, I just stared into distance.

I should have said, are you not concerned what may jump into your body while your soul is out flying around Japan?

Am I right assuming this could happen?
But me asking this question would also assume I believe in astral travel, to which I don’t.

I just never have a comeback, but I also beleive silence speaks volumes.

I will pray for her, thats the best I can do for her.

shae
 
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Shae:
I’ve a sibling that was born catholic, but taken other paths. She claims she went to Japan last night, to visit her former exchange student. Thing is she never left her bed to this. I couldn’t believe I was hearing this, though I know she is like this, and at that shocking moment, nothing comes to mind, I just stared into distance.

I should have said, are you not concerned what may jump into your body while your soul is out flying around Japan?

Am I right assuming this could happen?
But me asking this question would also assume I believe in astral travel, to which I don’t.

I just never have a comeback, but I also beleive silence speaks volumes.

I will pray for her, thats the best I can do for her.

shae
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Actually, we Catholics refer to this as bilocation. Many of the saints could do this. Thing is, they didn’t actually choose where they went. They said they let God take them there. What do you mean by other paths?
 
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Actually, we Catholics refer to this as bilocation. Many of the saints could do this. Thing is, they didn’t actually choose where they went. They said they let God take them there. What do you mean by other paths?
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By other paths, I believe that the poster is saying in a round about way that the sister has chosen different religions. If her sister is in to New Age beliefs, there might not be any name to label her hodgepodge of different beliefs with.
 
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Shae:
I’ve a sibling that was born catholic, but taken other paths. She claims she went to Japan last night, to visit her former exchange student. Thing is she never left her bed to this. I couldn’t believe I was hearing this, though I know she is like this, and at that shocking moment, nothing comes to mind, I just stared into distance.

I should have said, are you not concerned what may jump into your body while your soul is out flying around Japan?

Am I right assuming this could happen?
But me asking this question would also assume I believe in astral travel, to which I don’t.

I just never have a comeback, but I also beleive silence speaks volumes.

I will pray for her, thats the best I can do for her.

shae
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Chances are your sister went no where except her own imagination. But I would think that if she could leave her body then her body could become possessed. I doubt though that she is doing any astral traveling.
 
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Shae:
I’ve a sibling that was born catholic, but taken other paths. She claims she went to Japan last night, to visit her former exchange student. Thing is she never left her bed to this. I couldn’t believe I was hearing this, though I know she is like this, and at that shocking moment, nothing comes to mind, I just stared into distance.

I should have said, are you not concerned what may jump into your body while your soul is out flying around Japan?

Am I right assuming this could happen?
But me asking this question would also assume I believe in astral travel, to which I don’t.

I just never have a comeback, but I also beleive silence speaks volumes.

I will pray for her, thats the best I can do for her.

shae
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Actually, we Catholics refer to this as bilocation. Many of the saints could do this. Thing is, they didn’t actually choose where they went. They said they let God take them there. What do you mean by other paths?
 
If I recall correctly astral travel is part of black magic/witch craft. What kind of books does she have?

-D
 
The mind is easily powerful enough to lead one to believe something they imagined is real. It’s a common practice to teach yourself to leave your body and go where you want. Problem is that there is no way to prove you were there. No one else can see you, you can’t leave anything behind, nor take anything with you, and the experience is not something you can record from outside someone’s body.

Many drugs can induce realistic hallucinations. People report being able to hear, see, smell, feel, and taste things while hallucinating.

If I were you, I would make sure she is not doing any drugs. If so, an intervention might be in order. If she’s not, then a spiritual intervention might be in order.

Good luck. People who claim to have done this, usually get such satisfaction from it that they never renounce it.
 
Ask her to pick up a cell phone while she is there. I hear they have good ones over there.
 
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Shae:
I’ve a sibling that was born catholic, but taken other paths. She claims she went to Japan last night, to visit her former exchange student. Thing is she never left her bed to this. I couldn’t believe I was hearing this, though I know she is like this, and at that shocking moment, nothing comes to mind, I just stared into distance.

I should have said, are you not concerned what may jump into your body while your soul is out flying around Japan?

Am I right assuming this could happen?
But me asking this question would also assume I believe in astral travel, to which I don’t.

I just never have a comeback, but I also beleive silence speaks volumes.

I will pray for her, thats the best I can do for her.

shae
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Astral travel, channeling, and various other ‘spiritual practices’ of the new age movement are forbidden by the Catholic Church because they often involve less-than-friendly spiritual powers that attempt to manipulate people through these spiritual paths. It all falls under the rubric of astrology and magic, which may sound fanciful, but is not when you think about it: what is magic but the attempt to harness spiritual forces (including one’s own) to exert one’swill over the natural world. It is utterly different from the miracles wrought by the saints, and it is something into which we are not supposed to inquire. See the Catechism on magic.
 
Is she a saint? Unless you’re a saint with this special power you don’t the ability to bi-locate. A lot of this New Age stuff is just so silly I don’t know how people come to believe it. Astral Projection, channeling, crystal healing. Honestly. :rotfl:
 
Daniel Marsh:
Paul did it in II Cor 12, and John did it at Rev 4:1
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Paul and John are saints. I know that John was able to enteract with his enviroment, something that astral travelers don’t do. Paul seems to be speaking of a vision, not astral travel, in II Corinthians. I had always assumed that John was having a vision also.
 
George,

<<Astral travel, channeling, and various other ‘spiritual practices’ of the new age movement are forbidden by the Catholic Church because they often involve less-than-friendly spiritual powers that attempt to manipulate people through these spiritual paths. It all falls under the rubric of astrology and magic, which may sound fanciful, but is not when you think about it: what is magic but the attempt to harness spiritual forces (including one’s own) to exert one’swill over the natural world. It is utterly different from the miracles wrought by the saints, and it is something into which we are not supposed to inquire. See the Catechism on magic.>>

You are so right!

I have a daughter involved in New Age practices for about 30 years and she has discussed this at some family occasions and we joke about it or just ignore her. She has taken a second look at Christianity about two times in those years, but wasn’t willing to give up her new age practices, books, friends, astrology, etc., and so she just stayed with them.

However, such a thing as astral projection can happen when the person is deeply involved in new age practices, one of them being meditation in which they focus on nothing. Catholics should not be naive that practitioners of astral body projection, channelers, psychics, tarot card readers, can negatively influence not only the person practicing them, but those around them.

They need much prayers, and we need to educate our young Catholics of the real dangers of new age practices.
 
However, such a thing as astral projection can happen when the person is deeply involved in new age practices, one of them being meditation in which they focus on nothing. Catholics should not be naive that practitioners of astral body projection, channelers, psychics, tarot card readers, can negatively influence not only the person practicing them, but those around them.
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They need much prayers, and we need to educate our young Catholics of the real dangers of new age practices.
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I actually do know a few people involved in such things who have since abandoned them and returned to the Church. To put it bluntly, they are convinced not only that the experiences were “real” in some way (not mere fabrications) but also that they were demonic. I did not want immediately to sound “reactionary”, but I trust my friends on this matter; they described their experiences later to experienced exorcist priests who confirmed that what my friends had experienced and witnessed indeed bore the marks of demonic activity. This is an incredibly dangerous thing. Unlike fairy-tale vampires, demons do exist; however, like fairy-tale vampires, they can only have as much authority in one’s life as one permits. Astral practices are a dangerous territory in which to walk.
 
For those who still think that such occurrences are only in the imagination I highly recommend reading the book “Ransomed from Darkness” by Moira Noonan.

She is a well educated former New Ager who explains how she got involved, how it affected her life, and how her conversion back to Catholicism came about. A very informative book!
 
I know that Padre Pio could be in two places at once, though I have never really understood this…and I don’t think this is what the OP is discussing.

I had an Uncle who went through this bit for awhile who claimed he could do this stuff…we all would think, “'kay…” and then just pour him another glass of wine.

BUT…I do think this is dangerous stuff and we all need to pray for the OP’s sister.
 
<<I know that Padre Pio could be in two places at once, though I have never really understood this…and I don’t think this is what the OP is discussing.>>

What Padre Pio did was in God’s will. Padre Pio did not will this for himself.

I’m sure you know that, but I mention that for the sake of those readers who do not realize the danger of these things.
 
well, I kinda did…but I’ve never really understood the whole thing, to be honest with you Dorothy. I guess I took for granted that Padre Pio was doing God’s Will when it was happening but I’ve never quite understood why or how or when…you know…so, I guess the entire issue is a bit confusing for me!
 
Bi-location is certainly difficult to understand, and can not be explained in simple laymen’s terms.
 
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