At Christmas Kneel in Creed at Incarnation Profession

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Thanks for the reminder, will try to be attentive and give more reverence.

Have a Blessed Christmas too
 
Another reminder … most people have been to confession for Christmas, so you are eligible to receive a plenary indulgence if you have been to holy communion and pray for the Holy Father’s intentions. How? Watch his Ubi et Orbi blessing, which allows us to receive this indulgence even if we are viewing it on television. EWTN will most likely air this again as usual. Watch for it.
 
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Another reminder … most people have been to confession for Christmas, so you are eligible to receive a plenary indulgence if you have been to holy communion and pray for the Holy Father’s intentions. How? Watch his Ubi et Orbi blessing, which allows us to receive this indulgence even if we are viewing it on television. EWTN will most likely air this again as usual. Watch for it.
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It has to be the live broadcast; the rerun doesn’t count.

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It has to be the live broadcast; the rerun doesn’t count.
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I scrolled ahead and found that his message will be broadcast at 3 PM on Christmas Day. I am not aware that EWTN offers a rerun of this, but maybe so. This stipulation is new to me, so I will search it out.

However, since Rome is approximately five hours ahead of us, most likely, if he delivers this message “live” following his morning mass at 9:00, it would occur around 11 a.m., EST. I suppose one might watch the end of his mass to see if the message is delivered at that time. If not, then the 3 PM message would be live.
 
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If you remember we kneel during the creed when we profess the incarnation. This is at all Christmas Eve, midnight and Christmas Day masses.

Have a blessed and Merry Christmas.
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For reference, it is shown in GIRM 2011 (USCCB):
137. The Symbol or Creed is sung or recited by the Priest together with the people (cf. no. 68) with everyone standing. At the words et incarnatus est, etc. (and by the Holy Spirit . . . and became man) all make a profound bow; but on the Solemnities of the Annunciation and of the Nativity of the Lord, all genuflect.
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bow; but on the Solemnities of the Annunciation and of the Nativity of the Lord, all genuflect.
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But notice on the Web page Referenced in the original post it says we do genuflect at the Annunciation but that we kneel at Christmas.

The wording of the Rubic’s used to be the same for each feast day but just recently it was changed.
I was deeply disappointed when I read about this change as I think many catholics need to understand the connection between these 2 feasts.

Isn’t there a difference now between one knee and two knees or am I missing something
 
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Isn’t there a difference now between one knee and two knees or am I missing something
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I think the difference is that kneeling is when the posture is to be kneeling but genuflect is the gesture when the posture is standing, and as a gesture it is more solemn than a bow.
 
I didn’t know the pastor could change what was perscribed in the GIRM at will. That’s new to me.
 
I always genuflect. I try not to make a production out of it either. It’s an EF thing, I guess (I assist at both).

Most people in my area don’t even bow a little in the Creed. No bow when the Cross is carried, either. I figure they just don’t know.
 
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Yeah well, I didn’t say he could.

But, he’s not going to stop and kneel, I already asked him about it when I was doing a run through of Mass with the servers, and no one else in the parish even knows to do it except me.

I’m not going to attempt put the kneeler down to kneel and disrupt everyone when Father is not going to kneel or motion the congregation to kneel. He’s just going to keep on going with the Creed.
 
I’m saying that what he’s doing is incorrect.

Why not kneel on the floor then?
 
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No bow when the Cross is carried, either. I figure they just don’t know.
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Oh boy. Yikes on me. I’m not a cradle Catholic so I never knew this. EDIT: I would assume you are referring to the initial procession? END EDIT

This is how I learn. I’m going to start doing this. I’ve never seen anyone else do this at any Catholic church or Mass I’ve been to.

Thanks

PS: I do bow during the Creed.
 
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I was not present when it was discussed on CAF, but I did find in the Manual of Indulgences that it needs to be live. All we need to do is find out whether the 3 PM message is live. He might give it after his Christmas morning mass at 9 AM, which would place it near 11 AM or bit later. I have always watched him bless a live audience in Vatican square, rather than in church setting. So 3 PM makes better sense.

No sweat - if folks miss it, he also bestows it anew on the Solemnity of Mary (Jan. 1st).
 
Google is my friend – according to the Papal Calendar for December, “Urbi et Orbi” is tomorrow starting at noon local time, which is 0600 EST (0500 where we live).

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I don’t know if it’s in the GIRM, Joe. But a small bow to the Cross in Processional and Recessional is how I was taught. Also whenever the name of Jesus Christ is spoken.
What harm can it do? You might be a good influence on those around you.

Merry Christmas, brother!
 
I’ve actually never heard the kneeling part. Every Catholic church I’ve ever been to (30+) we bow our heads at the point. And I bow my head at every mention of Jesus during the mass. But never heard of kneeling. I take it you aren’t under USCCB?

Also never seen the genuflection for the cross. I knew this was a thing from Catholic Saint movies and reading about it but I’ve never seen it, except at Latin mass
 
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