At my wit's end...need help

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My husband and I have been married for about two and a half years. (We’re in our mid-30s, first marriage for both, no kids so far.) He was baptized Catholic, but his parents never took him to church, so he hasn’t had much of a faith life. I’ve been a practicing Catholic my entire life. We were married in a Catholic church, and for the first part of our marriage he attended Mass with me every week.

He’s been introverted and averse to communication the entire time I’ve known him, and probably his whole life. We attended premarital classes as part of our marriage prep and learned communication techniques to use during conflicts. He pretty much ignores them. When something bothers him, he retreats to his computer and lets things simmer until everything bottles up and then he…I wouldn’t say “explodes”…but he releases his anger out of nowhere. I mean, to me it’s out of nowhere because I have no idea he’s upset about something. Sometimes he slams doors, bangs around the house, etc. He’s broken cabinet doors and light switches out of anger (though on accident). He’s never hit me, of course, and I know he never would (and if he did, I’d be outta there). But in my opinion he takes an immature approach to dealing with his frustrations.

I’ve initiated numerous talks in which I’ve tried to be calm in an attempt to communicate how I perceive his responses, and to find out from him what I could be doing better myself. Typically, I get responses like an exasperated sigh and an “I don’t want to talk about this again.” He seems continually irritated with me and shows little affection anymore. Our sex life has dwindled to the point where once a month would be a lot. (And we’ve been married only two years!) We don’t use birth control, and I think that freaks him out (i.e., worries about pregnancy), but even during my non-fertile times I have to twist his arm to get him to show any kind of physical intimacy.

This morning, I was getting ready to go to Mass (which he usually attends with me, occasionally taking a week off), and I asked him if he was coming. He said no, because “it’s boring.” I don’t know why, but that completely broke my heart, and I suddenly started bawling. I guess I’ve always had it in the back of my head that maybe someday he would want to go through RCIA and receive the rest of the sacraments. The fact that today he dismissed Mass so out of hand just crushed me. (And, yes, I’ll admit that perhaps for someone who didn’t grow up in the faith Mass can be “boring,” but I appreciated the fact that he at least attended for my sake. Maybe that’s partly why I was so upset at his refusal to go this morning–it was like my feelings no longer mattered.)

I don’t want to make it sound like we have a completely dysfunctional relationship, because in many ways we make a great pair. When he’s in a good mood, we have a lot of fun together. Those days have been fewer and farther between though, as he lost his mom to cancer last year, and his dad is currently in the early stages of Alzheimer’s (another issue I’ve brought up in the forum). I know he’s hurting and sad and frustrated, but I’m tired of being the metaphorical “punching bag” for his frustrations. He thinks he can afford to get mad at me because he knows I’m not going anywhere.

I don’t profess to be perfect, and I’m sure there are plenty of ways I can improve upon myself to strengthen our marriage. But to be honest, I’m exhausted and sometimes I don’t particularly feel like working on things when it seems as though he’s not willing to do anything on his end. I’m tired of crying, I’m tired of walking on eggshells when he’s in one of his “moods.” (And like I said before, I have no fear of physical or mental abuse; it’s just not a comfortable situation to be living with someone who seems to be simmering with irritation 95 percent of the time.) I’ve suggested counseling for either us or him. He rejected the latter and halfheartedly agreed to the former; I’m hoping once we find a good therapist we’ll get some clarity–that is, if he’s actually willing to speak up to anyone about what’s going on inside his head.

So…after all this, I guess what I’m asking is for advice, perspectives, prayers, all of the above. My husband truly is a good man, but he’s suffering in some way, and until/unless he deals with his “demons,” so to speak, I don’t see things getting better.
 
It sounds like due to stress, the marriage has become more adversarial lately. Is there any way to get on the same team?

What about scheduling a meeting with your husband to problem solve together? Not to air grievances, but to bring an agenda to the meeting and come up with potential solutions to apply to your situation.

My husband and I do this a couple times a month now. We didn’t always do this, but at some point we discovered it is an effective way to keep the marriage pruned and to keep us working as a team. If I had any of his behaviors I wanted to address, I rehearsed in my head what I would say beforehand so that it did not come out as a complaint. Then our meeting could be cooperative instead of combative.

Your husband is obviously going through a lot, losing his mother and watching his father develop Alzheimer’s in such a short time frame. But maybe he hasn’t realized yet that one of the benefits of marriage is the comfort and cooperation of his wife to overcome life’s trials and to face its griefs. He may need more persistence from you to open up and let you in.
 
What you’re describing doesn’t sound like normal introversion to me. It sounds like conflict avoidance and possibly depression. 😦

It’s good that he’s at least open to counseling. He can’t just not talk to you. It’s not realistic. And you can learn ways to talk to him and encourage him to open up that are more likely to be successful. If you’re concerned about who to see, Catholic Charities might have someone or they can offer a referral, or your parish priest might know someone.

I once randomly Googled “Christian counselor in [my area]” and I stumbled across a great therapist. She was not Catholic, but was very knowledgeable and respectful of Catholic belief and practice. I’ve also learned that it’s OK to find someone else if you’re not “clicking” with whoever you’re seeing.
 
I pray for this marriage, that it may
weather the storm, that they may
know the Presence of the Lord in
their boat.

Our Father, who is in heaven,
Your name be held holy,
Your kingdom come,
Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses as
we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
Amen.
 
Dear Shay,

When I read your post, I saw big red flags. It’s **not **okay to break things out of anger and this is only going to get worse if not addressed. He needs help - it seems to me he is internalizing his anger and he needs to learn to express his anger in a healthy way. Clearly you both are frustrated and carrying a burden that is hurting you both, and your marriage is suffering as a result.

Others have advised a Catholic counselor. That is really good advice. Try to reach out to him and talk to him lovingly and ask him to go as soon as possible.

I will keep you in my prayers.
 
Dear Shay,

When I read your post, I saw big red flags. It’s **not **okay to break things out of anger and this is only going to get worse if not addressed. He needs help - it seems to me he is internalizing his anger and he needs to learn to express his anger in a healthy way. Clearly you both are frustrated and carrying a burden that is hurting you both, and your marriage is suffering as a result.

Others have advised a Catholic counselor. That is really good advice. Try to reach out to him and talk to him lovingly and ask him to go as soon as possible.

I will keep you in my prayers.
I think a counselor–ideally one who can Rx meds–may be helpful. He seems to be going through some pretty significant life crisis. A third party often can sort things out quicker than we can.
 
I think a counselor–ideally one who can Rx meds–may be helpful. He seems to be going through some pretty significant life crisis. A third party often can sort things out quicker than we can.
Perhaps he does need meds, perhaps he is going through a significant life crisis. However I speak from personal experience that breaking things and hitting walls is a red flag. This is why I feel so worried because I endured this, too.

I hope Shay’s spouse gets the help he needs - and Shay? Remember there’s support for you, too. You don’t have to suffer through this… there are hotlines for women to call for free and you can seek individual counseling if you feel you need it, in addition to working on the marriage…

My prayers always
Grey
 
Shay,

I agree - you need to seek counseling for yourself; if only to be able to deal with the situation. If he will agree to couples’ counseling- all the better. Search for a Catholic counselor in your area, or a Christian one at the least.

My husband suffers from chronic depression (from childhood, if not teenager-hood). He needs both meds and counseling to stay halfway “normal”. He has a temper - and it’s mostly directed at himself, because depression is anger turned inward. In the 23 years we’ve been married, he’s thrown stuff, broken stuff, said stupid stuff. He’s never hit me. Raised his hand to me ONCE. I threatened to leave and that ended that.

All this to say, with all of the stressful things going on with his family’s health, he’s probably clinically depressed and at the very least needs some temporary chemical “help” to allow him to adjust and see things in a clearer light. As far as the church/Mass thing goes, the best you can do is help lead him to psychological help that will encourage him to attend with you, and lots of prayer.

Blessings to you!
 
Definitely get marital counselling. It would be helpful for him to go and get counselling on his own as well. The issues he’s been facing - the death of his mother and his father’s illness is contributing to the way he’s acting towards you. IMO - and I’m not a doctor, so take it with a pinch of salt - I think he’s trying to feel in control of something. He can’t help his parents and so he feels powerless, but he still can reject other things to have a sense of power. Honestly, I think he’s indulging in the fact that he knows you love him and you mean to keep your vows. When we hurt, we push away the people who matter to us the most, and I think this is what he’s doing right now. I think you need to sit down with him (when he’s calm) and tell him that something needs to change. He needs to talk to you about how he’s feeling, and getting counselling will help with that.

Lou
 
I agree.

Seeking help is the best for him.

I have similar issues.

Seeking help was a gigantic step forward I saving my marriage.

I will pray for you.
 
…He’s been introverted and averse to communication the entire time I’ve known him, and probably his whole life. We attended premarital classes as part of our marriage prep and learned communication techniques to use during conflicts. He pretty much ignores them.** When something bothers him, he retreats to his computer and lets things simmer until everything bottles up and then he…I wouldn’t say “explodes”…but he releases his anger out of nowhere. I mean, to me it’s out of nowhere because I have no idea he’s upset about something.** …


I’ve initiated numerous talks in which I’ve tried to be calm in an attempt to communicate how I perceive his responses, and to find out from him what I could be doing better myself. **Typically, I get responses like an exasperated sigh and an “I don’t want to talk about this again.” **He seems continually irritated with me and shows little affection anymore.
…I don’t know why, but that completely broke my heart, and I suddenly started bawling. I guess I’ve always had it in the back of my head that maybe someday he would want to go through RCIA and receive the rest of the sacraments. The fact that today he dismissed Mass so out of hand just crushed me. …
I don’t want to make it sound like we have a completely dysfunctional relationship, because in many ways we make a great pair. When he’s in a good mood, we have a lot of fun together. Those days have been fewer and farther between though, as **he lost his mom to cancer last year, and his dad is currently in the early stages of Alzheimer’s **(another issue I’ve brought up in the forum). I know he’s hurting and sad and frustrated, but I’m tired of being the metaphorical “punching bag” for his frustrations. He thinks he can afford to get mad at me because he knows I’m not going anywhere.

I don’t profess to be perfect, and I’m sure there are plenty of ways I can improve upon myself to strengthen our marriage. But to be honest, I’m exhausted and sometimes I don’t particularly feel like working on things when it seems as though he’s not willing to do anything on his end. I’m tired of crying, I’m tired of walking on eggshells when he’s in one of his “moods.” (And like I said before, I have no fear of physical or mental abuse; it’s just not a comfortable situation to be living with someone who seems to be simmering with irritation 95 percent of the time.) I’ve suggested counseling for either us or him. He rejected the latter and halfheartedly agreed to the former; I’m hoping once we find a good therapist we’ll get some clarity–that is, if he’s actually willing to speak up to anyone about what’s going on inside his head.

So…after all this, I guess what I’m asking is for advice, perspectives, prayers, all of the above. My husband truly is a good man, but he’s suffering in some way, and until/unless he deals with his “demons,” so to speak, I don’t see things getting better.
He’s agreeable to counseling, so maybe he’ll open up in counseling, but I wouldn’t necessarily count on it. The fact that he’s agreeable to counseling tells me that he loves you very much.

Your husband is going through a period of stress and he doesn’t want to talk about it. You want him to talk about it. Then when he expresses his opinion, (like how he finds Mass boring), you sometimes break down and cry. A lot of men don’t know how to deal with crying and tears from the women they love. He makes you cry when he shares, so why would he want to share if it’s just going to make you cry?

You married a man, not a girlfriend. Like a lot of men, he deals with things differently than women. Talking may help you feel better about things, but he’s not you. You write the explosions come from “out of nowhere”, but it sounds to me like there are warning signs that your husband is upset that you simply either haven’t learned how to read or respond to yet.

There’s a book that I think you will find quite helpful by Shaunti Feldhaun called "For Women Only, What You Need to Know about the Inner Lives of Men. It’s written by a Protestant woman on survey responses from men. Society wants to tell us that men and women are the same, but that’s a big, fat lie! Your husband sounds very much like a man who doesn’t want to talk about what he’s going through right now because he’s going through a lot right now (death of mother, illness of father, new wife that cries when he talks. etc.) Please do yourself a favor and read this book: amazon.com/Women-Only-Revised-Updated-About/dp/1601424442/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1443033070&sr=1-1&keywords=for+women+only
 
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