Atheists and abortion

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There is no connection between atheism and whatever one’s personal stance is on abortion.

I’m obviously an atheist but I would like to see zero abortions. Let’s be clear about something ap straight up: No-one is pro-abortion.
That’s simply not true.
If you are trying to say that abortion is a difficult decision and in many (most) cases is not a decision willfully in favor of the abortion, per se, yes.
But there are people who are “pro” more abortions.
 
No, that’s not it. I am wondering if her liberal viewpoint didn’t square with her family’s Christianity and conservative politics and in trying to justify her position she was led her turn away from faith in God.

I’m using her disbelief in an afterlife as an indication that she is likely atheist.

It might help if I asked her directly. 😃
Ah, Okay. Now that doesn’t sound unusual.

There has been some amount of people disassociating with the religion of their upbringing because of the conflicts between their personal feelings/convictions on certain issues and the declarations of those within that religion or the religions doctrine. That disassociation doesn’t always result in one being an atheist; and can sometimes cause a change in denomination or even to the person developing their own view of God that is more compatible with their personal convictions.

I don’t think they are necessarily doing this to justify their own position though. I think their convictions on a matter may cause them to see their earlier position or the position of their family/community as less justified though.
 
when you meet God you will know. i just want you to do it now. Later will be too late.
You speak for God, do you, and are privy to His decisions?

Perhaps we should all worship you, as his official representative.
 
That’s simply not true.
If you are trying to say that abortion is a difficult decision and in many (most) cases is not a decision willfully in favor of the abortion, per se, yes.
But there are people who are “pro” more abortions.
I don’t understand that at all. Who on earth would want more abortions? Do you know anyone who thinks that there aren’t enough? That’s lunacy.
 
I don’t understand that at all. Who on earth would want more abortions? Do you know anyone who thinks that there aren’t enough? That’s lunacy.
I would think WANTING just one would be lunacy given what is involved.
 
I don’t think there is any correlation whatsoever. What does belief in God or no belief in God have to do with health care choices?
Interesting that abortion is referred to here as “healthcare,” which it almost never is.

I wonder if slave owners in the 1700s would say “what does belief in God have to do with my personal choices of property”.
 
I’ve hesitated whether to post on this thread or not, but here it is.

I’ll comment on two things here:

First, back when I wasn’t much of a believer and would sometimes hang out with people involved in atheist activism, it was quite often considered taboo or forbidden to be “pro-life”. Being pro-choice was the in thing, it was hip, and to defy that was to go against the grain and automatically branded you as against women’s rights, as someone living in the past, someone not sure about their atheism.

What happens here is that, perhaps, while some atheists are indeed pro-life (for non-religious reasons, obviously), publically identifying as one can be seen as problematic, so many often prefer to keep it to themselves.

Second, since religion is quite often touted (perhaps more often than really necessary; the reasons that convince me to be pro-life aren’t even religious 🤷) as arguments for the pro-life position, in the minds of many atheists, the movement is solely based on religious opinions and worldviews that may have little to do with actual, tangible reality.

I think these two reasons may be why it is observed that atheists tend to side more with the pro-choice worldview.
 
Interesting that abortion is referred to here as “healthcare,” which it almost never is.

I wonder if slave owners in the 1700s would say “what does belief in God have to do with my personal choices of property”.
The implications are horrifying.
Speaking of this issue in terms of the sanitized and impersonal “health care” says something about the reduction of human life to utility. When the choice to kill or not to kill, to enslave or not enslave, arrive at one’s doorstep, these deceptive self-justifications play the defining role.
 
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