Athiests: What do you do when....

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So, do you know and experience love? Is your perspective on love different from ours?

Being an atheist is not the same as being involved in the occult, is it?

I can’t imagine how it would be living in a religion-less home. Can you tell me what it is like? Do you just go about your daily life without talking about anything having to do with God or no God? Or do your families instill their beliefs in you like we instill our beliefs in our children?

Is there a feeling of peace in your relationships? It seems like I detect a sense of bitterness and anger in the atheists posts here and at amazon.com’s Christian forums, but realize that it might be because of the conversations and not a reflection of how you go about your daily lives.

Do you feel happy and peaceful and experience love? Or do you feel combative and negative about life? Or is it like us Christians, where it all depends on our personality type?
I’m trying to compose myself in order to answer this, please be patient with me.
The first thing I will ask you to do is ask yourself what the occult is, and how it could be possibly compatible with the rejection of the supernatural.
 
Hi again Annemariels,

I reject the idea of spirits to begin with, so I can not answer the question you ask here in this follow up post.

I was raised by persons who did not have belief in supernatural God/Goddesses/spirits/beings.

However, I certainly knew many persons in my life that did, and do.

If I can answer any other questions you have I will try.
So, if the body doesn’t have a spirit, does that mean it’s the brain who makes us who we are? Is the brain separate from our mind? Oh dear. Having a hard time wrapping my brain around the idea that we don’t have a spirit. hmmm. What do you call the instinct we have when discerning right from wrong?
 
I’m married, have children, a large family, lots of friends and yes, I love many people unconditionally.

I’m a third degree Atheist. 😉

It’s Godless.

Some days yes, some days no. Do Christians experience nothing but peace and bliss in their relationships?:rolleyes:

Yes, yes, sometimes, once in a while and yes.
Ok - so it seems like the dynamics of our relationships are the same.
What is a third degree atheist?
 
I’m trying to compose myself in order to answer this, please be patient with me.
The first thing I will ask you to do is ask yourself what the occult is, and how it could be possibly compatible with the rejection of the supernatural.
My knee jerk definition of the occult is devil worshiping. From your answer that is really a question, I take it that the occult is also rejected by atheists because the occult deals with the supernatural world that you don’t believe exists.

whew. Did I get that right?
 
So, if the body doesn’t have a spirit, does that mean it’s the brain who makes us who we are? Is the brain separate from our mind? Oh dear. Having a hard time wrapping my brain around the idea that we don’t have a spirit. hmmm. What do you call the instinct we have when discerning right from wrong?
It’s really not as hard to imagine as you think it is. I’m not asking you to believe the sun did a dance, or that I can tell you what happens to a stillborn baby, or that I can tell you how many days of reading scriptures will shorten your time in a purgatory. I’m simply telling you that a quick trip to any retirement community or hospital should answer your questions about brain function being quite essential to what or we “are”.

Your question about morality. Christian morals evolve. They have not remained constant, thankfully for the sake of humanity. Certianly you can see this yourself.
 
It’s really not as hard to imagine as you think it is. I’m not asking you to believe the sun did a dance, or that I can tell you what happens to a stillborn baby, or that I can tell you how many days of reading scriptures will shorten your time in a purgatory. I’m simply telling you that a quick trip to any retirement community or hospital should answer your questions about brain function being quite essential to what or we “are”.

Your question about morality. Christian morals evolve. They have not remained constant, thankfully for the sake of humanity. Certianly you can see this yourself.
Great points. Thanks for explaining your position in a civil way.

I have to log off here for tonight but will be back tomorrow to see if anyone has anything more to add to our discussion.
 
My knee jerk definition of the occult is devil worshiping. From your answer that is really a question, I take it that the occult is also rejected by atheists because the occult deals with the supernatural world that you don’t believe exists.

whew. Did I get that right?
Yes, Atheists don’t believe in God, the Devil, Angles, heaven or hell…nothing supernatural.
 
My knee jerk definition of the occult is devil worshiping. From your answer that is really a question, I take it that the occult is also rejected by atheists because the occult deals with the supernatural world that you don’t believe exists.

whew. Did I get that right?
Yes, you did get that right Annemariels,

And have a restful sleep. Hopefully others will be able to chime in also by morning or shortly thereafter.

Take care
 
Hopefully others will be able to chime in also by morning or shortly thereafter.
Great thread, I would be more than happy to oblige.
I have always wondered what an atheist does to get through difficult times in life.
For me, I rely on my own personal strength. This is my only life, so I need to do what it takes to move through the difficult times and make a name and a life for myself that I can enjoy, especially now that i’m trying to build a family.

In the event of 9/11, well I was in high school at the time. At first I didn’t really believe it. My first 15 minutes of knowing was a huge shock filled with waves of anger. Looking back, and even forward, I have a lot of rage about the incident. I believe my original answer to the problem of terrorism at that time was to turn Afghanistan into glass. But i’ve always been a little draconian in the back of my mind; hopefully my conservative nature will keep me in check 😃
 
Yes, great thread. Thanks Annemariels for your wonderful, non-confrontational style.
hmmmm. so it sounds like you pretty much do all the things we do during difficult times, minus the faith and minus the belief in everlasting life beyond the grave. Our spirits die with our body…they aren’t two separate parts of our being?
What you call “spirit”, we call “mind”. In our view the mind is the activity of the brain, “immaterial”, just like “walking” is the activity of the legs, also “immaterial”.
Another question: Are the majority of atheists raised as atheists, or do they evolve into atheists from their own logic?
Again, speaking for myself. I was raised in an interesting family. My grandparents and my mother were Catholics, my father was Protestant. The grandparents were devout Catholics, my parents were “lukewarm”. I was a believer as a child, I was encouraged to go to church, but later I “grew out of it”. All my experiences in the church I attended were excellent, not one blemish on the pastor and his assistants. I cannot imagine a more loving, peaceful, great family. I am very lucky to have been raised by my parents.
 
I have always wondered what an atheist does to get through difficult times in life.

During the days after the Sept. 11th attack in NY, churches were full. People dropped everything and turned their eyes and hearts upward in prayer. What did the atheists do?

And what do atheists do when a loved one dies? Do they believe that death is the end of the road for them? Where do they find comfort when a loved one is injured or ill?

I am soooo curious to know how you get through difficult times, times when most of us draw closer to God and get comfort from His promises.

I am not trying to start a debate - I am just very curious.
Spend time with friends/family, or do things that are fun to distract myself.
 
Just want to add my Kudo’s to others for a very good thread.
Reading the responses with great interest.

Peace
James
 
I really don’t think there is any big difference between theists and atheists - apart from having a different worldview. Both “camps” contain good and bad people, love and hate, caring and indifference. There is no statistical difference either, the very small differences can be chalked up to statistical fluctuation. When you observe an average Joe Shmoe, rarely can you discern if he is a theist or atheist.

On a discussion board like this, the different worldview becomes the point of discussion, so the differences become seemingly more important than they actually are. But that is the aim of the “game”, isn’t it? As long as the differences stay on a civil level, and don’t grow into hostility, there is no problem. 🙂
 
Thanks to all for an insightful thread.
Appreciate the discussion.
May join you if I can think of something to contribute.
🙂

And hello StrawberryJam … I know I owe you a Private Message,
hope to write you soon!
 
I really don’t think there is any big difference between theists and atheists - apart from having a different worldview.
True, but this is a huge difference, shaping every bit of that person physically and mentally. Method of thought, I find, is a large difference especially in knowing v faith (i.e. knowing without knowing). For instance, there are a lot of people who i’ve seen that believe scientific method is on par with faith. That is to say that one must have faith to believe that scientific method will and does work as intended. The difference between the two being that faith asks for nothing while scientific method requires hypothesizing and empirical data (lots of something). But this is just my observation 😛
 
Would you agree that most atheists don’t believe in God because they never looked for Him?
Or placed other man’s “reason” and “doubts” as barriers in order to “not believe”?
Have any of you (atheist) tried reading the Bible (cover to cover)? And still believe there isn’t a God?

I don’t quite understand why you would spend time in a Catholic site like this…Curiosity?
:DYou must want us (with Religion) to try to help you out with this godless problem you have…👍

I’ll tell you this (with all due respect)…
God is wonderful - Open your hearts. Be humble. You’ll find Him.
 
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