Attending a mass with illicit elements

[reclaimed]

Does it fulfill the obligation to attend my local Diocesan parish if the Mass tends to contain illicit elements, sometimes skipping the creed, some words change. I believe the consecration is valid. Once the word was “that will be given up for you” instead of “which will be given up for you” but I don’t think that invalidates the consecration. What if heresy is preached from the pulpit? (This in a general sense.) If the bishop had suspended a priest we’d certainly know about it, right?

 

[rhiannonh]

You would know if you were in church regularly but otherwise no you wouldn’t know if a priest has been suspended.

That happend in our parish once at the end of the service he had to declare that as from now he officially no longer priest… I wont say the rest. I hope never to experience that again. Sad and stunned. Another priest literally just vanished on us. Though we got the sad details in time.

But is it just recent because in Lent I think we don’t say/sing the Gloria And some wordings do change. But I am Anglican and don’t know what Roman Catholics do in Lent and Advent.

 

[CDB1718]

Does it fulfill the obligation to attend my local Diocesan parish if the Mass tends to contain illicit elements, sometimes skipping the creed, some words change. I believe the consecration is valid. Once the word was “that will be given up for you” instead of “which will be given up for you” but I don’t think that invalidates the consecration. What if heresy is preached from the pulpit? (This in a general sense.) If the bishop had suspended a priest we’d certainly know about it, right?

Yes, it fulfills your minimal obligation to attend a church that sometimes includes illicit elements.

Whether or not you should go there is a matter of discernment. Does it provide the spiritual support you need? If it isn’t helping you get to heaven, find another parish.

 

[Pfaffenhoffen]

Does it fulfill the obligation to attend my local Diocesan parish if the Mass tends to contain illicit elements, sometimes skipping the creed, some words change. I believe the consecration is valid. Once the word was “that will be given up for you” instead of “which will be given up for you” but I don’t think that invalidates the consecration. What if heresy is preached from the pulpit? (This in a general sense.) If the bishop had suspended a priest we’d certainly know about it, right?

Boy, your mass must be stressful.
Would I ever imagine to see if there are illicit elements in the mass? Never, in my mind !!!

I do my business, to pray the Lord. The Priest does his own business and I think that if he is approved by the Bishop he knows what he is doing. Anyhow, I do not care whether he does it right or wrong. I am busy praying to the Lord.

You are sure that you know theology enough to judge what you judge?
It is not compulsory the creed…
Some words change? In fact, when it is in german, french or spanish, all the words change…
Are you sure you are doing the right thing?
With your worries, Lady, you do not have peace of mind !!!
Trust in God and forget the rest…

 

[Ancient1]

Illicit elements in the Mass! Heresy in the pulpit! Heavens, sounds like 90 percent of the parishes in America.

If this is your parish church, you have no obligation to go to any other. But you may if you find another that is more true to the Mass.

Note there is a distinction between illicit and invalid. You are hard pressed nowadays to find a 100% licit Mass. But most are valid.

This is important and often misunderstood: The Consecration must be said verbatim. One change in one word of the Consecration invalidates it.

 

[reclaimed]

I was told that consecration would still be valid. If the consecration is obviously invalid are we required to go to another Mass?