I don’t have any direction planned. I’m just enjoying the fellowship and challege between doing my work at my office. Here’s a quick link to ECT. There were Protestants and Catholics who were against it. And there were Protestants and Catholics who were for it.Interesting. Scott and I both went to Grove City College and our “journeys” both started with believing contraception was wrong.
I don’t know what ECT and ECT II are. I am not ultimately sure what is preventing me from joining the Catholic Church - as with everything it’s partly doctrine and partly personal experience and what’s available around me. Where are you going with these questions?
Interesting. It sounds like more Protestants than Catholics were against it, which isn’t surprising considering how much the Evangelicals concede (from what is popularly considered to be Evangelical Christianity.)I don’t have any direction planned. I’m just enjoying the fellowship and challege between doing my work at my office. Here’s a quick link to ECT. There were Protestants and Catholics who were against it. And there were Protestants and Catholics who were for it.
leaderu.com/ect/ectmenu.html
Both Christian communities had much to lose. For the Protestant, to sign the agreement is to sell out the Reformers. For the Catholic, the One True Church with exclusive sacraments are somewhat lost in the agreement… playing down the Eucharist maybe? I was always against ECT and ECT II for years until recently. I am for Christian unity between all the major branches of Christianity for the unbeliever’s sake (John 17).Interesting. It sounds like more Protestants than Catholics were against it, which isn’t surprising considering how much the Evangelicals concede (from what is popularly considered to be Evangelical Christianity.)
That is not unity, though. It’s a statement of what is held in common, but it’s also a reminder to be charitable despite not being unified.Both Christian communities had much to lose. For the Protestant, to sign the agreement is to sell out the Reformers. For the Catholic, the One True Church with exclusive sacraments are somewhat lost in the agreement… playing down the Eucharist maybe? I was always against ECT and ECT II for years until recently. I am for Christian unity between all the major branches of Christianity for the unbeliever’s sake (John 17).
What do you think about the Joint Declaration on justification between some of the Lutheran Churches and the Catholc Church?That is not unity, though. It’s a statement of what is held in common, but it’s also a reminder to be charitable despite not being unified.
I think it is a good start. However, I thought there was a problem with their definitions. I haven’t read it in awhile, but wasn’t there an issue with two definitions of justification? Justification as the moment of our conversion vs.justification as the entire preservation of our souls by Christ from regeneration until death and the resurrection.What do you think about the Joint Declaration on justification between some of the Lutheran Churches and the Catholc Church?
I read it. It seem the actual distinctives on justification remained for both communities. I thought the intended purpose of the agreement was the removal of the anathemas from the Council of Trent and whatever anathemas Lutheran documents may have.I think it is a good start. However, I thought there was a problem with their definitions. I haven’t read it in awhile, but wasn’t there an issue with two definitions of justification? Justification as the moment of our conversion vs.justification as the entire preservation of our souls by Christ from regeneration until death and the resurrection.
I don’t believe Rome lifted those for Lutheran teachers who departed from the Catholic Church and taught new heresy to others. So basically, for Luther. We lay, being the taught rather than the teachers, have never been considered to be heretics.I read it. It seem the actual distinctives on justification remained for both communities. I thought the intended purpose of the agreement was the removal of the anathemas from the Council of Trent and whatever anathemas Lutheran documents may have.