Austrian diocese confirms that Catholic priest held liturgy celebrating lesbian union

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Absolutely not, and even the linked article gives no indication of that. I don’t know what gave you the impression papal approval would ever happen either.

P.S. Austria and Germany are two different places.
 
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When clarity and true charity are deserted and replaced with ambiguity and (niceness) this occurs.
 
Irishmom2 said:
Absolutely not, and even the linked article gives no indication of that. I don’t know what gave you the impression papal approval would ever happen either.

P.S. Austria and Germany are two different places.
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He is probably referring to the upcoming German synod next month that will be voting on, among other things, creating a rite to bless same-sex marriages. The Congregation of Bishops told the German bishops to hold up and that they could not conduct their synod in the manner they planned, but Cardinal Marx met with Pope Francis and said that they were allowed to proceed. So yes, there is a very real chance that this will be coming to Germany on a wider scale, and yes, it is possible the Pope will approve, or at least allow it to go through.
 
Weserthy said:
yes, it is possible the Pope will approve, or at least allow it to go through.
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You are expecting the Holy Father to do something that is completely contradictory to 2,000 years of Dogma? Do you realize that would mean the gates of Hell have prevailed against the Church so we would all need to pack up and find a new religion?
 
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creating a rite to bless same-sex marriages
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This evil will never happen. The Church in Germany will never allow it. Ever.

This is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church we’re talking about.

This morally deprived act will never be approved by any bishop.
 
TheLittleLady said:
Do you realize that would mean the gates of Hell have prevailed against the Church so we would all need to pack up and find a new religion?
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Only if you believe that the Pope is the Church, which he thankfully is not.
 
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Weserthy:
creating a rite to bless same-sex marriages
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This evil will never happen. The Church in Germany will never allow it. Ever.

This is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church we’re talking about.

This morally deprived act will never be approved by any bishop.
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Well several bishops, including several of the currently serving German bishops, have spoken up in support of same-sex marriage blessings in the past, so that’s out the window already. (This is not even counting the fact that the German bishops don’t even have the majority of the votes at their upcoming synod and that they are giving the laity equal representation, so technically they don’t even need any votes from the German bishops to approve this, though they’ll definitely get some anyway).
Irishmom2 said:
Nope. Won’t happen.
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TheLittleLady said:
You are expecting the Holy Father to do something that is completely contradictory to 2,000 years of Dogma? Do you realize that would mean the gates of Hell have prevailed against the Church so we would all need to pack up and find a new religion?
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I want to believe that you are right. You might still be right. But there isn’t much evidence that this is the case. Pope Francis let the German proposals to give communion to Protestants go through last year when that clearly contradicts doctrine on the Eucharist. And if he was really so opposed to their plans, he could have nipped this in the bud and set them straight beforehand. But he didn’t. Now they’re going to go through with their whole synod (which actually takes place over the next two years), and if he does step in and stop this as you believe, then he’s going to do it at the last minute after it’s all done, when he could have just put an end to this in advance and saved them the trouble. Is this possible? Yes. Is it logical and a good way to manage the Church? It seems like a downright ridiculous way to do things.

I suppose that the argument against my hypothesis is going to be the typical response that Pope Francis is playing 4D chess again and that we can’t comprehend his strategy here, or something like that. But the actions, or lack thereof, that he’s taken regarding this situation so far have been anything but those of a Pope who sees a major problem with what the German bishops will likely be approving at their synod.
 
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Although ‘blessing’ homosexual ‘unions’ is morally reprehensible, we must remember that they are not trying to give it the same status as a Sacramental Marriage between one man and one woman.

Pope Francis has made it clear that he understands that homosexual acts are gravely and intrinsically immoral. I believe that IF the German bishops try to push ahead with ‘blessing’ such moral depravity, then the Holy Father will prevent it.
 
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It’s Austria, so I’m not surprised. While I’m thankful that it did not happen I’m the context of the Liturgy, it is still entirely unacceptable.
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P.S. Austria and Germany are two different places
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I think it’s in reference to the upcoming German synod. Some have been pushing for things like we see with the Austria case. They may be two different places, but it seems like the mindset of the Germans and Austrians are pretty similar when it comes to craziness like this.
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This evil will never happen. The Church in Germany will never allow it. Ever.
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I think you underestimate the German Church. I absolutely think the German Church will allow these types of things to happen. But whether Pope Francis will is an entirely different story.
 
No… but the Germans may just do it. There won’t be a formal papal approval, but Cardinal Marx et al may not be removed either.

Not ordaining women priests or anything like that. But I could see them crossing other lines…blessings for gay unions for example.
 
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AlbertDerGrosse said:
How can anyone say this with a straight face after the last few years?
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Because I spent years praying and reading my way to Conversion. I believe that gravity will keep me adhered to planet earth and that every word Christ spoke is true. The gates of hell shall not prevail. If I did not believe that, why would I have become Catholic, or remained Christian for that matter?
 
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