Auto Insurance analogy for Social Justice

[ManOnFire]

You start out by saying your argument is not about economic efficiency, but then you go right back into making statements about what is or is not economically efficient. Make up your mind. Also, are you commenting on social justice in general, or only particular applications of social justice? If it is the latter then you have not given enough definition of which applications you are talking about, so you can understand why someone would think you are against all instances of social justice. And what has obesity and ring tones got to do with your argument? I don’t follow.

Free will lifestyle choices happen first. Society’s financial “remedy(ies)” are a reaction to our sum of lifestyle choices. Maybe economic efficiency is not an appropriate term here. Maybe economic justice would be better. There’s not much talk about forcing a change in lifestyles, when the change of lifestyle choice is a more primary way to address the issue. There are plenty of people who react by saying to raise taxes when those same people sacrifice nothing. This also fails to address the root cause.

I have no problem helping people who made a mistake or who regret the choice they made, but many are continuing to make these choices with their free will.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Free will lifestyle choices happen first…

Since you have not given examples of what you consider bad free will lifestyle choices that are encouraged by misguided social justice efforts, you leave it to the reader to guess what you might mean. Since you mentioned giving more aid for more children I assume you consider having too many children a bad free will lifestyle choice. What “better” lifestyle choice should be made? Contraception? Sterilization? I wish I knew exactly which practices you are railing against.

 

[ManOnFire]

Since you have not given examples of what you consider bad free will lifestyle choices that are encouraged by misguided social justice efforts, you leave it to the reader to guess what you might mean. Since you mentioned giving more aid for more children I assume you consider having too many children a bad free will lifestyle choice. What “better” lifestyle choice should be made? Contraception? Sterilization? I wish I knew exactly which practices you are railing against.

Conservative lifestyle choices naturally keep people safer and less dependent. For those who choose more liberal lifestyles, that’s fine, as long as they pay for it themselves after the first strike.

Raising taxes on innocent people who choose safer lifestyles isn’t social justice.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Conservative lifestyle choices naturally keep people safer and less dependent. For those who choose more liberal lifestyles, that’s fine, as long as they pay for it themselves after the first strike. .

You are not answering my question. You first used giving people more support when they had more children as an example of misguided policy that encourages undesirable behavior. Do you or do you not still consider having too many children an example of bad behavior?

 

[ManOnFire]

You are not answering my question. You first used giving people more support when they had more children as an example of misguided policy that encourages undesirable behavior. Do you or do you not still consider having too many children an example of bad behavior?

Women who have more kids for the sake of receiving higher monthly payments are acting artificially. It’s an expensive behavior. Forcing innocent taxpayers to pay for their lifestyle choice is the economic reality. My personal opinion is regarding the morality is of little importance. God will be the judge of the morality of it.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Women who have more kids for the sake of receiving higher monthly payments are acting artificially. It’s an expensive behavior…

If you are claiming these women choose to have kids, you must be suggesting that they ought to choose not to have so many kids, right? If you are going to criticize them for having too many kids (and despite your protestations to the contrary, that is what you are doing), then you should say how they are supposed to act so as to avoid this “expensive” outcome.

 

[St_Francis]

If you are claiming these women choose to have kids, you must be suggesting that they ought to choose not to have so many kids, right? If you are going to criticize them for having too many kids (and despite your protestations to the contrary, that is what you are doing), then you should say how they are supposed to act so as to avoid this “expensive” outcome.

There’s this word in English; it seems that not too many people have heard of it: NO.

Two small letters, the lack of which can result in a new life, and a complete change in lifestyle for at least one other person.