Avoiding Knowledge of Mortal Sin

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Seeing as one of the conditions to committing a mortal sin requires full knowledge, does that make it possible to just avoid gaining full knowledge of all the mortal sins? Like intentionally keeping yourself in the dark? Or do we have some duty to teach ourselves all the different kinds of mortal sins.
 
Seeing as one of the conditions to committing a mortal sin requires full knowledge, does that make it possible to just avoid gaining full knowledge of all the mortal sins? Like intentionally keeping yourself in the dark? Or do we have some duty to teach ourselves all the different kinds of mortal sins.
We do not get off the hook that easy. We are obligated to rightfully form our conscience. If we never cared to learn what we should know about sin, especially Mortal sin, it is still our fault and we are held accountable. Also Gods commandments are written in our hearts anyways. Nobody can say that they did not know murdering someone was wrong even if nobody told them. It is written in our hearts. So no, choosing to remain ignorant does not reduce culpability. It takes time to learn all the types of ways we can sin though. God does not expect more from us than what we are capable of. But we have to try, not choose to remain in the dark and then claim ignorance.
 
That’s another thing that confuses me. If it’s written on our hearts and “doesn’t reduce culpability,” then why is there such a condition as “committing it with full knowledge” in order for the act to count as a mortal sin?
 
I would interpret it as something like “If you feel that little voice suggesting maybe this is wrong and you don’t investigate whether it is, then you’re on the hook”.

For example, maybe you never knew that you weren’t allowed to take communion at a Protestant service. You go, you are offered, you take it without a second thought. That’s probably fine. But if you hear that question “I wonder if this is ok” and you don’t investigate to learn that it is forbidden, you’re not ok.

However, I think the fact that your conscience drove you to ask this question means that you really have no choice but to do some research into, e.g. reading the wikipedia article.
 
I would interpret it as something like “If you feel that little voice suggesting maybe this is wrong and you don’t investigate whether it is, then you’re on the hook”.

For example, maybe you never knew that you weren’t allowed to take communion at a Protestant service. You go, you are offered, you take it without a second thought. That’s probably fine. But if you hear that question “I wonder if this is ok” and you don’t investigate to learn that it is forbidden, you’re not ok.

However, I think the fact that your conscience drove you to ask this question means that you really have no choice but to do some research into, e.g. reading the wikipedia article.
I would like to point out that that rule my not apply for someone who is scrupulous and basically thinks EVERYTHING that they do could be a sin. Such a person should handle questions about “I wonder if X is okay” with the advice their spiritual director gives them. Even one of the ten commandments of The Scrupulous written by a priest says that when a scrupulous person is not sure if they are obligated to do something, they can be certain that they are not obligated to do something and to proceed without fear of sin.

But this is ONLY for the scrupulous. That advice would be terrible for someone with a normal or lax conscience.

Although even someone who is scrupulous is obligated to rightly form their conscience. But the thing about us is that we tend to try to do that very much, we just have trouble applying what we learn sometimes :o
 
That’s another thing that confuses me. If it’s written on our hearts and “doesn’t reduce culpability,” then why is there such a condition as “committing it with full knowledge” in order for the act to count as a mortal sin?
Some things seem more in the grey area than things like murder though. What if a woman knows that murder is wrong but she does not know that the birth control that she is taking is a abortifacient? That would mean that she does not know she is cooperating in killing a baby, so she does not have “Full Knowlegde” so she is not guilty of murder in the true meaning of murder.

And lets say she is taught that birth control is not wrong because basically Catholics and JWS are the only ones who still teach that it is wrong? What if she was raised in a non denominational Church that does not even know that all protestants were against birth control in the early 1900’s? That is where it is not so black and white as simply knowing in our hearts that Murder is wrong.

That is probably not the best answer so hopefully someone more knowledgeable can give you a better answer but I hope it makes a little sense.
 
Seeing as one of the conditions to committing a mortal sin requires full knowledge, does that make it possible to just avoid gaining full knowledge of all the mortal sins? Like intentionally keeping yourself in the dark? Or do we have some duty to teach ourselves all the different kinds of mortal sins.
We will make a lawyer of you yet. LOL

I could ask how do I determine what is grave matter.

I could fall back on drugs, whisky and obsessional habit as a shield against full consent.

I am preparing our brief this very minute to put this before the Lord for you. I don’t like our chances…
 
I would like to point out that that rule my not apply for someone who is scrupulous and basically thinks EVERYTHING that they do could be a sin. Such a person should handle questions about “I wonder if X is okay” with the advice their spiritual director gives them. Even one of the ten commandments of The Scrupulous written by a priest says that when a scrupulous person is not sure if they are obligated to do something, they can be certain that they are not obligated to do something and to proceed without fear of sin.

But this is ONLY for the scrupulous. That advice would be terrible for someone with a normal or lax conscience.

Although even someone who is scrupulous is obligated to rightly form their conscience. But the thing about us is that we tend to try to do that very much, we just have trouble applying what we learn sometimes :o
That’s true, but I also think the burden of proof, so to speak, is on going to be heavy before you can say avoiding scrupulosity gets you a pass on investigating whether something is moral. And I think it’s clear that for the OP, this isn’t the case!
 
That’s another thing that confuses me. If it’s written on our hearts and “doesn’t reduce culpability,” then why is there such a condition as “committing it with full knowledge” in order for the act to count as a mortal sin?
“Written on our hearts” is a poetic way of expressing that certain things can be understood as immoral based on proper philosophical reflection. In other words, one can potentially understand that things like murder or adultery are grave offenses based on reason alone. One does not need divine revelation in order to understand that.

THEREFORE, to *purposefully *avoid thinking about the morality of actions *can *result in personal culpability if one commits sin.

But obviously, not everyone has the capacity to reason in a fully adult manner. And there are many other mitigating factors, such as a cultural inertia that is so powerful one would need great graces to overcome it.

… and so we need to analyze our understanding of our behavior, while trying our best to form our conscience with the doctrine of the Church.
 
Seeing as one of the conditions to committing a mortal sin requires full knowledge, does that make it possible to just avoid gaining full knowledge of all the mortal sins? Like intentionally keeping yourself in the dark? Or do we have some duty to teach ourselves all the different kinds of mortal sins.
Ignorance is not bliss. It is incumbent on Catholics to learn what the Church teaches. If a Catholic is too lazy to learn or refuses to learn what the Church teaches they will be held accountable when they die.
 
Remaining in willful ignorance as a sneaky strategy is being deliberately sinful. Genuinely scrupulous people suffering from anxiety over what is a mortal sin should consult their confessor/spiritual director, however. Their struggles require a special approach. But ordinary Joe or Mary Catholic should never try to look for loopholes in such a way as described by the OP.

Why not? Several reasons.


  1. *]It is contrary to love! God is love, and why would we want to try to pull the wool over His eyes anymore than we would a spouse or sweetheart or family member who is precious to us? I have started reading a book called Deep Conversion, Deep Prayer by Thomas Dubay which makes this very point in the first few pages. It’s been an eye-opener for me. As human beings, we spend so much time and energy proving we love other people, or devoting time and money and energy to things that bring us pleasure - but very few of us do that for the God Who made us and loves us so much.
    *]It’s a waste of time, because God already knows our inner thoughts even better than we do.
    *]It’s just plain lame to try to pull off as a strategy since resources for learning authentic Church teaching are readily available - RCIA classes, talks with a priest, the Catechism is available online as are many other resources here on CAF, EWTN, the Vatican’s website, Catholic bookstores - one can access quite a bit without even breaking a sweat. To refuse to use these, or ignore parts of them, is spiritual sloth, one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

    In short - just don’t do it. Read Psalm 1 and Psalm 119 for examples of how we should delight in the law of the Lord at all times. 🙂
 
The Church teaches that to suspect that something may be mortally sinful, but not find out and commit the act anyways, is also a mortal sin, because you show that you are willing to commit a great evil…the point here should not be whether or not something would be sinful if you didn’t make an effort to learn, it should be, does this offend God? That must be our primary motive to not sinning…an imperfect motive to not wanting to sin, is the fear of hell, but to fear knowing sins in the first place for fear of contracting culpability for the sin? That simply falls under selfishness…
If someone wants to love God, it follows that they also want to please Him, and in order to please Him, we must learn what offends Him, and then do all we can to avoid those things.

Hope that helps, take care.
 
No one may not “intentionally keep yourself in the dark”.

One is to form ones conscience according to the teachings of the Church etc.
 
That’s true, but I also think the burden of proof, so to speak, is on going to be heavy before you can say avoiding scrupulosity gets you a pass on investigating whether something is moral. And I think it’s clear that for the OP, this isn’t the case!
Avoiding scrupulosity does not give us a pass for anything. Scrupulosity is hell on earth.

When one is scrupulous, something inside us has such a great desire to not sin that the overwhelming majority of the times we have a doubt about if something is a mortal sin, it is not a mortal sin. But the help of a spiritual director is needed. Imagine my surprise when I have told my spiritual director about 30 “doubts” only for him to tell me that not one thing I mentioned was grave matter.

Indeed, this does not sound like the OP’s case. I wanted to point out what I did in case anyone who is scrupulous reads this. Hearing advice for someone with a normal or lax conscience and applying it to ones self if scrupulous can be very harmful and I say that with personal experience as someone who is scrupulous and diagnosed with OCD but working with a spiritual director to help it.
 
Seeing as one of the conditions to committing a mortal sin requires full knowledge, does that make it possible to just avoid gaining full knowledge of all the mortal sins? Like intentionally keeping yourself in the dark? Or do we have some duty to teach ourselves all the different kinds of mortal sins.
There’s a legal/moral concept called “culpable ignorance”. Knowledge and guilt for a sin may be imputed to one who deliberately avoids learning/confirming that something the person suspects is a sin, is, in fact, sinful. It’s a ruse and God sees right through it.
 
The mentality of purposely stay in ignorance so one can commit a sin without grave responsibility shows at least two things 1) the attachment to sin 2) no intention to please God.

Ignorance brings destruction. There are two kind of ignorance - vincible and invincible. Vincible ignorance is when there are all kind of information to educate oneself but one chooses not to know. In this case, if the person commits a mortal sin , he has full responsibility for the mortal sin. If one is invincibly ignorant, then he is not culpable of committing the mortal sin, for example a barbarian on a isolated island.
 
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