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My pro-choice non-Catholic future MIL has come around to NFP 😃
 
And, on another note of good news:

Our new priest, who has served about two years in a different parish prior to ours, gave us an extraordinary homily today. It included the excellent authentic teachings of our Church on contraception, sterilization, and abortion, and mentioned the recent attack on our Church.

He has a great singing voice and reverently sang part of the Mass.

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sanctamaria17 said:
My pro-choice non-Catholic future MIL has come around to NFP 😃
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Forgive my playing devil’s advocate here for a sec, but “come around” how?

Is she going to be using it? In which case, why is that any of your business?

Is she accepting of your using it? In which case, why is that any of her business?
 
kerebos said:
Maybe I’m the only person who doesn’t have a mother in law who asks specific questions about our sex life?
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Naww, there are tons of great MIL’s out there, unfortunately there’s just a ton of ones who fit the nosy stereotype, too.
 
Havard said:
Naww, there are tons of great MIL’s out there, unfortunately there’s just a ton of ones who fit the nosy stereotype, too.
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There’s still a bit of a line between “Why don’t we have grandkids yet?” and “What types of birth control are you using?”
 
kerebos said:
There’s still a bit of a line between “Why don’t we have grandkids yet?” and “What types of birth control are you using?”
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In some families, the form of birth control being used is openly discussed. Doesn’t necessarily mean the MIL is nosy. For many people, talking about NFP is even a form of evangelization.
 
SummerSmiles said:
For many people, talking about NFP is even a form of evangelization.
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This is what I’m worried about. Maybe “worried” is a bit strong of a word, but you know what I mean. It’s not that the MIL was being nosy, but that the OP was being pushy.

I tend to be the type that follows Matthew 6:6 more often than not, thus I’m not a big fan of “evangelizing” as such. To paraphrase St. Francis, I try to preach the gospel, but use words only when necessary.
 
@kerebos: or, perhaps, dear kerebos, you could not rain on sanctamaria’s parade, hmm? She is sharing joyous good news. She is not praying in a vainglorious way, so I do not see Mt.6:6 as applying. Rather, apparently, she is attempting to be a light unto the nations, and to have a reason for her hope. Why not assume the best in charity?
 
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@kerebos: or, perhaps, dear kerebos, you could not rain on sanctamaria’s parade, hmm? She is sharing joyous good news. She is not praying in a vainglorious way, so I do not see Mt.6:6 as applying. Rather, apparently, she is attempting to be a light unto the nations, and to have a reason for her hope. Why not assume the best in charity?
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First off, there’s not enough information in the original post. As far as I can tell, there’s not even a relevant previous thread that can explain the situation. After I asked for a clarification, everybody else, including myself, has tried to fill in details – but not the OP. I still don’t really know what she meant by “coming around to NFP”. We can assume and imply and hypothesize all we want, but until the OP chimes in, we just don’t know.

My reference to Matthew was meant as a reference as to how I approach things, not as being directly relevant to the OP. The comment was also in response to somebody claiming that “talking about NFP” was a form of evangelization, not in reference to anything the OP said. If somebody was going around saying, “Look at how holy I am, for I practice NFP and don’t use condoms or BC pills!”, then Matthew 6:6 would apply. That’s probably not relevant to the OP’s situation, but we don’t know.
 
I wasn’t the one who spoke with her. My intended was talking with her. She has worked in health care and mentioned it to my fiance as a note of concern. He told her what we had learned and she ended up finding a secular source that advocated for it. She admitted a change of mind.
 
sanctamaria17 said:
I wasn’t the one who spoke with her. My intended was talking with her. She has worked in health care and mentioned it to my fiance as a note of concern. He told her what we had learned and she ended up finding a secular source that advocated for it. She admitted a change of mind.
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It wouldn’t surprise me that non-Catholic, pro-choice people may not fully understand NFP or think that it’s just “the rhythm method” rebranded, but once they learn what’s all involved that they’ll agree that there’s more to it than just praying you don’t get pregnant. It would surprise me, however, if he quickly convinced her that NFP was the only way to space pregnancies and condoms and the pill were wrong for everybody else too.

My guess – not knowing anybody involved – is that your future MIL is just letting you and your fiance make your own choices as she’s knows you’re thinking things through, which is a good thing, and actually a very “pro-choice” thing to do.
 
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