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And it quite amazes me that out of all the pictures, you chose possibly the one which may make some sense and overlooked the clown mass, the cheeshead mass, the bagel mass which the priest said would soon be the body of our Lord, which I had the misfortune of attending. And Yes, woman are not and should not be priests…does that bother you? If so, than I know of a good Protestant church which I can refer you to, or possibly if you wait another 20 or 30 years, your local Novus Ordo Parish may soon be calling itself just that. It is the liberal Catholics as yourself which continue to just amaze me and most as you have no place in your heart for anything reverent
Irish Melkite:
JT,

Yes, I am amazed that this site refers to the Mass as a “Mess” and that among the “abuses” that they cite is a Mass celebrated in Iraq, a war zone, in which the chaplain doing so is wearing vestments that are camouflaged in color - right, wear something bright, think of it as kindness to the eyes of a sniper trying to sight in on you.

Additionally, “female priestesses” are pictured as if that was something which could only have come about with the advent of the Novus Ordo - oh yeah, I forgot, women are constitutionally incapable of learning Latin, so it could never have happened had we retained the Tridentine Mass.

You people are truly ridiculous.

Many years,

Neil
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ByzCath:
Just more of the same Church bashing. It is not the Mass of the Catholic Church, it is those who abuse it and those who allow it to be abused.
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Then what right do they have to call themselves “The Catholic Church”???

Is this the visible church??? Where than is “The Catholic Church”

Is is hidden - maybe “underground”? Where do you go to find it?

Will the real Catholic Church please stand up!
 
Irish Melkite:
Novus Ordo - oh yeah, I forgot, women are constitutionally incapable of learning Latin, so it could never have happened had we retained the Tridentine Mass.
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Apparently you forgot that women have a place of outmost importance in the Catholic Church - after all the Mother of Christ was a women - go figure - and it is at her heel that the devil will be crushed!!

Yes women have a very significant place in The Catholic Church … and it AIN’T on the Altar!!!

There are many good nuns out there who read and understand Latin a whole lot better than many priests … they would die before they would put themselves in the place of Christ!!!

Living peacefully requires understanding that we all have a place - and living that place in the Will of God! That is true peace!
 
I am as pro-Mass of Paul VI and will defend it against all comers, but really, even if this was to accomodate the performers who are not able to attend Mass regularly, they couldn’t do better than the elephant’s stool?!?!? Surely something better could have been contrived for the Altar of Sacrifice? The chaplain on the jeep, understandable in a time of war when soldiers may die and need to solace of the Sacrament, but a stool that’s used for a performance? After an elephant has trod on it?
 
jtnova:
I am tired of people calling conservative and Traditionals “schismatics” when it is actually the other way around, as we are adhering to the faith and canon law, and it was the Pope and misguided bishops who, wanting to appease their Protestant and Jewish bretheren did away with 70% of the TLM and replaced it with circus elephants. Ask yourself, who is keeping the faith and who is heretical?
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Schism is seperation from the Holy Father. He is the head of the Catholic church. This is twice you have listed the Holy Father in a slanderous fashion. While you do not know any of His Holiness’ motivation are you blind to the fact that it is God who has put this holy man as the head of His bride?

If you think you were justified in your statements, then why object to being called schismatic?

Your recent recruitment efforts on this website is harmful to the body of Christ. I for one will stand by the chair of Peter and the vicar of Christ until the day He returns
 
jtnova:
And Yes, woman are not and should not be priests…does that bother you? If so, than I know of a good Protestant church which I can refer you to, or possibly if you wait another 20 or 30 years, your local Novus Ordo Parish may soon be calling itself just that. It is the liberal Catholics as yourself which continue to just amaze me and most as you have no place in your heart for anything reverent
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JT,

You are apparently contitutionally incapable of reading with understanding anything that is not spelled out in the simplest of terms.

My point was that a site which criticizes the Novus Ordo Mass by posting photos of women claiming to celebrate it makes no sense as a criticism of the Novus Ordo Mass - as the fact that a woman would claim to do so has nothing at all with the fact of the Mass being served being the Novus Ordo Mass.

It is an entirely separate issue. Latin Catholics could still be celebrating principally with the Tridentine Mass and one could still potentially find a women alleging to celebrate it.

I am tired of explaining to ignorant folk that the Novus Ordo Mass is as real a celebration of Christ’s Sacrifice as the Tridentine Mass and that liturgical abuse existed in the days of Latin as well, it was just that fewer understood when it was happening.

You people have no realization that, prior to Vatican II, which you are so ready to decry as a gathering of freemasons and heretics, you would never have had anything like the GIRM available to you with which to amuse yourselves looking for abuse.

Many years,

Neil
 
Rara Avis:
Then what right do they have to call themselves “The Catholic Church”???

Is this the visible church??? Where than is “The Catholic Church”

Is is hidden - maybe “underground”? Where do you go to find it?

Will the real Catholic Church please stand up!
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I think you misunderstood what I was saying.

When I said, “It is not the Mass of the Catholic Church, it is those who abuse it and those who allow it to be abused.”

What I meant was it is not the Mass of the Catholic Church that allows abuses, it is those abusing it that are causing the problems. The abuses and problems do not originate with the Mass.
 
I am replying without even looking at your pictures. The title was enough for me. I don’t believe this is ever helpful to those of use seriously searching for answers and truth. I believe these kinds of postings are detrimental as these pictures are obviously evil and completely without merit (can tell the content from prior postings). Yes I believe there are inaccuracies in Masses around the world, but travesties such as this do not come from honest error, or relaxation of accepted ritual, but somewhere else entirely. Help us keep the faith and the Mass alive and please do not become a messenger of evil by spreading these kinds of picture and sites.
 
I suggest you visit the following, written by two Cardinals after Vatican II, how the New Mass does not fulfill what it was supposed to, as I am tired myself of educating you also

sspx.org/miscellaneous/critical_study_of_the_new_mass.htm
Irish Melkite:
JT,

You are apparently contitutionally incapable of reading with understanding anything that is not spelled out in the simplest of terms.

My point was that a site which criticizes the Novus Ordo Mass by posting photos of women claiming to celebrate it makes no sense as a criticism of the Novus Ordo Mass - as the fact that a woman would claim to do so has nothing at all with the fact of the Mass being served being the Novus Ordo Mass.

It is an entirely separate issue. Latin Catholics could still be celebrating principally with the Tridentine Mass and one could still potentially find a women alleging to celebrate it.

I am tired of explaining to ignorant folk that the Novus Ordo Mass is as real a celebration of Christ’s Sacrifice as the Tridentine Mass and that liturgical abuse existed in the days of Latin as well, it was just that fewer understood when it was happening.

You people have no realization that, prior to Vatican II, which you are so ready to decry as a gathering of freemasons and heretics, you would never have had anything like the GIRM available to you with which to amuse yourselves looking for abuse.

Many years,

Neil
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jtnova:
I suggest you visit the following, written by two Cardinals after Vatican II, how the New Mass does not fulfill what it was supposed to, as I am tired myself of educating you also

sspx.org/miscellaneous/critical_study_of_the_new_mass.htm
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More bunk but then what do you expect from schismatics. The SSPX are going to be very selective and only put things that support there distorted view on their web site.

I am starting to think that we are dealing with a case of invincible ignorance here and maybe its time to stop replying and to start to make sure that others are not lead down the same path by you.
 
Can I take this back??? I signed off and took a shower and my little voice said—go look at this again—

I thought the site was referring to an Elephant’s stool…as in…well you know…:eek: , so I got a little crazy with my reply. Forgive me, I’m new at this…

Who says my Guardian Angel doesn’t work overtime…:o
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Cindy_Lou:
I am replying without even looking at your pictures. The title was enough for me. I don’t believe this is ever helpful to those of use seriously searching for answers and truth. I believe these kinds of postings are detrimental as these pictures are obviously evil and completely without merit (can tell the content from prior postings). Yes I believe there are inaccuracies in Masses around the world, but travesties such as this do not come from honest error, or relaxation of accepted ritual, but somewhere else entirely. Help us keep the faith and the Mass alive and please do not become a messenger of evil by spreading these kinds of picture and sites.
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ByzCath:
I think you misunderstood what I was saying.

When I said, “It is not the Mass of the Catholic Church, it is those who abuse it and those who allow it to be abused.”

What I meant was it is not the Mass of the Catholic Church that allows abuses, it is those abusing it that are causing the problems. The abuses and problems do not originate with the Mass.
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Amen!

Once again I’d like to ask why, if people think these pictures are so scandalous, why people are still posting them? Do we actually think that there were never any abuses in masses before Vatican II. Thankfully there were no digital cameras around to photograph these or we might have to throw out all of the normative masses over the years except the Last Supper!
 
DominvsVobiscvm said:
“NovusOrdoWatch” is a very unorthodox website. There’s no doubt about it. It’s sedevacandist.

That having been said, truth is truth, no matter where it comes from.

The truth, and I’ve spent years denying it, the *Missa Normativa *is easily bastardized and abusedm much more so than the Tridentine Mass. When celebrated properly, the Missa Normativa is perfectly valid and pleasing to God. Problem is, it’s been constructed in such a way that its more prone to abuses than, say, the Tridentine Mass.

People think that any criticism of the Magisterium is heterodox; it’s simply not the case.
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Amen, brother!!!
 
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