Baby Boomers and the Church

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Born in 1955 I wear the label “baby boomer” with a tepid attitude. My generation pushed for the leaglization of abortion, feminism, the pill, drugs, quickie divorce, feels good do it, and the list goes on.

My early years saw me in the traditional ways. But in 6th grade a wind blew through our school and Church, and now I was attending Mass with the altar facing me, and I could understand what was actually going on. I liked it.

The changes came so fast the nuns at Christ The King couldn’t keep up, and my situation was not unique. Alot was going on I wasn’t able to comprehend. It was only years later, when I could sit back, could I get a grasp on things.

I would not go back to all the old ways, but I’m glad to see a return to sanity, as the pendelum swings back the other way. Rogue parishes are being called out by the Faithful, and our children are now asking questions about the Faith that was handed down to the baby boomer. My son often asks me about such things as Mass on First Friday, when Lent was really Lent, the solemnity of Midnight Mass.

What we are seeing in this years presdential elections, is also going on in the Church. This will be the last election we can influence. It is the last gasp of many of the counter culture baby boomers, to grab the country and mold it into what they feel it should be, while a equal number on the other side, try to keep that from happening. The Clintons are prime examples. Set aside what you feel about them and for a moment watch what is happening. Obama is new, and his followers are challenging the Democrat baby boomers for control of the party. Many of his followers were to young to know about the 90s and frankly don’t care. Ancient history to them. Who wins is yet to be determined.

As for me, I look back on my days in the Traditional Church and I’m thankful. It is why today I am mostly conservative in ways of the Church. I recall the dedicated people who invested so much into me. The Sisters of Christ The King gave me their all. They had no families, or outside interests. The devoted their lives to making sure the Faith was handed down, in the way they received it.

I left Christ the King in the 8th grade. I never had more passionate, competent teachers then the nuns at the CTK. Not in public school, college, and 26 years of EMS and Fire Dept instructors.

I was a mediocre student at best. But I NEVER disrepected them. I held them in such awe. They commanded our attention in their full habits and dress, and when they taught the catechism you listened. They told us the stories from the Bible, and the lives of the Saints. I learned about the catacombs of Rome, the heroism of the Crusaders that saved Europe, and the perils of bringing the Faith to the New World, all from a a tiny dimunitive nun, that might’ve weighed 90 lbs, but dominated a room like a linebacker.

Here is the respect the Sisters at Christ The King received- The conveant was a quarter mile walk across the playground from the school. When a Sister left the school, carrying her book bag or other material, it was understood a young boy would leave the ballgame or whatever he was doing and carry that Sister’s bag to the conevant. Nobody ever told us that, we just knew it. You learned it from the older boys when you were in the first grade. You saw it done, and you KNEW oneday it would be the YOUR responsiblity. A Sister carrying her book bad was not allowed.

We respected our school and property. It was clean and neat. I mean you never even thought about dropping paper on the playground. The Sisters taught us not only how be good Catholics but good citizens, funny how those things go hand in hand.

What happened to us? (baby boomers) Our parents came through the Great Depression and WWII. They knew hard times, and like every generation, wanted it better for their kids. But it was a new and rich America, and they over compensated many of us. Millions of Baby Boomers, grew up with a sense of entitlement, we’ve had it our way all our lives, and now we are losing power in many places and we dont’t like it. LOL

The Holy Father has seen fit to allow our Traditions to come back, and I’m sure that bothers some Bishops. I prefer the Ordus Mass, but I never saw anything wrong with a guy that wanted to attend a Latin Rite, and couldn’t understand why it was villified by so many.

But things always balance themselves out. Sometimes it just takes a while. The Baby Boomer leadership will soon be handing the reigns over to those ordained in the 80s and 90s, who view the 60s and 70s like I do the Roaring 20s. History.

Younger leadership wants to preserve our traditions, before they are lost forever, and that is a good thing.
 
I’m a convert and am not quite a boomer (I’ve heard my generation called “tweeners.”) I started going to a tridentine mass this fall. Like you said the 60’s and 70’s are history for my generation (I was there as I was born in 1965, but pretty little for much of it). I cannot imagine what a change it must have been to go from the tridentine format to the NO form. I really like the tridentine and am blessed to go to a parish that has the NO form done very well also.
 
Thanks for an amazing post. As you said, a large number of the people pushing for more tradition are younger Catholics. Thats why i think its so wonderful when we hear from people like you, who can tell us how it was, and what it was like when the change happened. Thanks for keeping our history alive, so that we can learn from it as we move forward.
I’m a convert and am not quite a boomer (I’ve heard my generation called “tweeners.”) I started going to a tridentine mass this fall. Like you said the 60’s and 70’s are history for my generation (I was there as I was born in 1965, but pretty little for much of it). I cannot imagine what a change it must have been to go from the tridentine format to the NO form. I really like the tridentine and am blessed to go to a parish that has the NO form done very well also.
Its a little known fact that between the end if Vatican II and 1970, before the NO came into effect, there was another form of mass celebrated, which was basically the Tridentine Mass celebrated int he vernaculor, or something very similar to it. This mass reflected the changes called for in Vatican II. Later, when the liberals managed to hijack the church, they scrapped everything and made up the NO from scratch. I would have liked to be there to see the change between these three forms of mass.
 
HERE is a great podcast about What Happened to the Catholic Church. We boomers are really having to make up for a lot of disservice done to us with respect to our Faith formation.

How many of you remember as children, going in a room and cutting out pictures from magazines and pasting them on pretty colored paper - and this was supposed to teach us our Faith? I was born in '64 - the tail end of the boomer generation, and sadly I didn’t have much traditional exposure in my life - until now.

Glad we are finally, slowly, but finally, starting to come out of this era of warm and fuzzy catechesis, and truly learning and loving our Faith.

~Liza
 
I was born in 1951 and went to Catholic schools from K-12. My conscience was formed before Vatican II - I was a junior in high school when the changes really began to get moving.

As far as the Mass goes in those years…I was an altar boy. The TLM in the vernacular is a myth. The congregation didn’t know what was going on. There was an announcement from the pulpit every few months - OK, this is what we are going to do…It was very confusing and very distressful…the world turned upside down in a little over two years.
 
HERE is a great podcast about What Happened to the Catholic Church. We boomers are really having to make up for a lot of disservice done to us with respect to our Faith formation.

How many of you remember as children, going in a room and cutting out pictures from magazines and pasting them on pretty colored paper - and this was supposed to teach us our Faith? I was born in '64 - the tail end of the boomer generation, and sadly I didn’t have much traditional exposure in my life - until now.

Glad we are finally, slowly, but finally, starting to come out of this era of warm and fuzzy catechesis, and truly learning and loving our Faith.

~Liza
I was born in 55. I was in Catholic school three years - first through third grade - from 1961-1963 just outside of Pittsburgh. I got the best Catholic education packed in those three years than all the years of CCD I got when we moved and I had to go to a public school. The nuns were wonderful and were dedicated to teaching us the basics of our faith. How I wish I’d had a few more years there!
 
1961 here-and yes, I do remember cutting out pictures from magazines and making felt banners in CCD. I call that the “warm, fuzzy Jesus” era of Catholic education.

I found a traditional parish a few years ago and have been blessed to be able to attend regularly. However, I’ve had to do a lot of homework to make up for what was lacking in my education.
 
It scares me to think that a few years can make such a profound difference. They did.
 
What we are seeing in politics is the last hurrah for baby boomers. My generation was evenly split-hippies on the coasts, and regular folks in Flyover country. The last few elections have been battlegrounds as the camps battle it out to see which can carry out their vision of what the country should be.

The next election will see the rise of Gen Xers and Ys. There are millions and millions of baby boomers, I forget the final tally but we prolly out number everybody else combined. The baby boomers split their vote roughly 50-50 it will be the younger generations that tilt elections (if they can stay together) It will be interesting to see what happens.

Bishops and Priest, heavily influenced by the anything goes 60 and 70 decades have dominated Church politics for many years. They purged most of the traditional thinkers and took the Church in a much more liberal direction.

The Bishop’s conference became so involved in secular politics, I wondered what was going on. If a priest even brought up the Latin Mass, he was run out of town on rails. They weren’t going to hear of *anyone *being a Traditionalist. Need help at Mass? Well heck, just pick one outta the congregation. Hold hands and sing Kumbya at Mass like it was a campout, in the 70s you were subject to hear a ABBA song at the reception. Communion? Just come on down to the local Catholic Church on Christmas Midnight Mass and take part, because “we gotta reach out to our Christian brothern and help them understand.”

But ya know, the Church has always had such stuff to deal with. We have been through the phase of anything goes, and now as the baby boomers in the hiearchy retire, a new generation is moving in. For sure the Church needed updating in the 60s, but some, influenced by what was going on around them, saw Vatican II as a excuse for anything goes.

It was baby boomers who cried out “we gotta let priests marry, only way keep the numbers up,” “artifiical birth control is a must,” “no reason we can’t have women clergy,” “same sex marriage is a God given right” and on and on. Baby Boomers, brought up in unimaginable wealth and substance, bucked any kind of authority. The counter culture guys wanted to mold the Church in the image they envisioned. They succeeded in many areas.

But in the history of our Great Faith and Church, things always correct themselves, and the ship is righted by a new generation, along with the older such as the Holy Father, who held their ground all those years, under tremendous pressure.

I knew we were on the right course when one of the first things the Holy Father confirmed after accepting the Staff, “Look, it is NOT within MY power to change the law about women clergy, that is God’s law.” (well maybe not in those words, he just has better way of sayin it, but thats how I understood it) Since then, the subject hasn’t come back up.

The Novus Mass, when celebrated correctly, is still my preferred. I like “Reconcillation” instead of “Confession.” I remember standing in the confession line at CTK, when I was 7 years old, and being a nervous wreck. I was always tried to get in the fastest moving line, figuring the Priest in that box was giving guys a break. When you’re 7 years old, you look for any advantage to get back on the playground in a timely fashion.

Back when I was singin Kumbya ( I did like the song, still do) I figured one of these days, some guy would say “hey, why don’t we sing a good ole Catholic Hymn at the next Mass, like Humbley We Adore Thee?”
 
Tail end of the baby boom here.

Started out in a Catholic school with good Franciscan nuns as well as good lay teachers … one nun, Sr. Claudia, did us a great favor in 5th grade by literally “scaring the hell out of us” by spending an entire class period teaching us about hell. If I recall, she’s the only teacher I ever sent a thank-you letter.

Moved to a new city in 6th grade, where my mom yanked my sister and I out of the Catholic school when she discovered they were teaching us a watered-down version of the Faith. We went to public school and were homeschooled in religion, with a good nun by the name of Sr. Helen testing us to make sure we were fit for Confirmation when the time came. She said that my sister and I were the most knowledgeable Confirmands in the city, having been taught by my mother.

Besides rote memorization (yes, you heard right! 🙂 ) … one way in which my mother taught religion “in the moment” was on the way home in the car after we’d heard a sermon given by a liberal priest. “Okay,” she’d ask, “What did the priest say that went against Church teaching, and what should he have said instead?”

As a teenager, went on an excellent youth pilgrimage to Fatima, Portugal led by Fr. Robert J. Fox, another priest, and two nuns whose cheerful motto throughout the trip was “Offer it up!” 🙂

Grew up with only memories of attending Mass in English, except for once or twice in the Byzantine rite, once in Portuguese at Fatima (logically I think it was Portuguese, it was a huge open air Mass and the only words I remember sounded like “Señor Jesus”), and several times in Spanish during summer school in Spain.

Studied three years of high school Latin because from an early age I showed an aptitude for languages and intended to major in Spanish in college … Was happy to discover an indult Latin Mass many years later, and was overjoyed when Pope Benedict’s Motu Proprio on the Tridentine Mass came out.

~~ the phoenix
 
I think the thing that disturbs me the most about this thread is that it is both accurate and inaccurate. The inaccuracy comes in that there were large numbers of us who never had long hair; never protested the war; never smoked pot; and who lived the Beaver Cleaver lifestyle because it was what we had grown up with. Sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll was not even on our radar screens.

The accuracy is that we were submissive to both our parents and HMC. So when HMC said change - we changed. The liberal element among us picked up the ball and ran. HMC said change. We changed. Doesn’t mean we liked it. I had enough in my geographic parish in 1983 and voted with my feet to join the orthodox cathedral parish. I’ve driven 25 miles one way because it is that important to me.

There really is something to the term “silent majority”.
 
What an interesting thread. As you know, I am older than all of you and I remember how wonderful it was to go thru twelve years of school with the Sisters of Mercy, with a year of Dominicans and a year of Sisters of Notre Dame thrown in. Catholic beliefs were part of almost every class we took and although my high school had only 158 students when I was there, I got an excellent education. I feel blessed.

First Fridays were a big deal. We had Mass and adoration and then breakfast was served at church before we went on to high school, about four miles away. In grammar school most of us went to Mass everyday. If you could carry a tune, you were in the choir. And I do not agree that we did not know what was going on at Mass. The nuns schooled us well. We learned the names of all of vestments and what they were for.

Although I was away from the church for some years, I never, ever forgot the teachings I learned in school and I never did not believe them. I just thank God and the Holy Spirit for bringing me to my senses and bringing me back into His loving care.

In summary, I am not opposed to the NO Mass, but every so often I trek thirty miles to attend a TLM that is held in my city every Sunday.
 
Dominicans in K. Sisters of Mercy 1-7. Brothers of the Sacred Heart 8-12 - ask me about First Fridays.

We don’t have to go back to the TLM but we SHOULD endeavor to return to the reverence that we knew. It’s not about us as a community; it is about Him. How I yearn for the days when you could kneel before Mass and pray and examine your conscience. Even my cathedral parish is prone to the “social hall” aspect. Shut up. You are before God and the rest of us wants some quiet to be able to pray in peace.
 
What an interesting thread. As you know, I am older than all of you and I remember how wonderful it was to go thru twelve years of school with the Sisters of Mercy, with a year of Dominicans and a year of Sisters of Notre Dame thrown in. Catholic beliefs were part of almost every class we took and although my high school had only 158 students when I was there, I got an excellent education. I feel blessed.

First Fridays were a big deal. We had Mass and adoration and then breakfast was served at church before we went on to high school, about four miles away. In grammar school most of us went to Mass everyday. If you could carry a tune, you were in the choir. And I do not agree that we did not know what was going on at Mass. The nuns schooled us well. We learned the names of all of vestments and what they were for.

Although I was away from the church for some years, I never, ever forgot the teachings I learned in school and I never did not believe them. I just thank God and the Holy Spirit for bringing me to my senses and bringing me back into His loving care.

In summary, I am not opposed to the NO Mass, but every so often I trek thirty miles to attend a TLM that is held in my city every Sunday.
Ahhhhh! Just had a mental picture of steaming hot chocolate and yeast donuts flash into my head! And getting to go to the school cafeteria instead of directly to class.
 
Dominicans in K. Sisters of Mercy 1-7. Brothers of the Sacred Heart 8-12 - ask me about First Fridays.

We don’t have to go back to the TLM but we SHOULD endeavor to return to the reverence that we knew. It’s not about us as a community; it is about Him. How I yearn for the days when you could kneel before Mass and pray and examine your conscience. Even my cathedral parish is prone to the “social hall” aspect. Shut up. You are before God and the rest of us wants some quiet to be able to pray in peace.
:amen:
 
Dominicans in K. Sisters of Mercy 1-7. Brothers of the Sacred Heart 8-12 - ask me about First Fridays.

We don’t have to go back to the TLM but we SHOULD endeavor to return to the reverence that we knew. It’s not about us as a community; it is about Him. How I yearn for the days when you could kneel before Mass and pray and examine your conscience. Even my cathedral parish is prone to the “social hall” aspect. Shut up. You are before God and the rest of us wants some quiet to be able to pray in peace.
My great- grandmother used to say: “How can what you are saying to each other be MORE important than speaking to GOD???” Unless there was blood, fire or some other impending disaster-you did NOT speak in Church when you went with Babche.
 
Ahhhhh! Just had a mental picture of steaming hot chocolate and yeast donuts flash into my head! And getting to go to the school cafeteria instead of directly to class.
My mom said they did that at her Catholic school back in the 1940’s. She also still has the holy cards that the Sisters gave her. 🙂
 
I just went to our Church breakfast today ( we have an all can come if they want for the kids school trip -hosted by the KofC) and met some baby boomers that want everything to come back then they may come back to Church. This does not seem fair. Those that stuck it out( not me I was a black sheep) should have the say they stayed through all changes, and what is to say that if things go back that those others will really come back and stay?

Some say they want the altars back not the tables and they want the old altars that are in storage.
They don’t want the singing so much, etc.

What do you think?
 
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