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misericordie
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I like what our Holy Father said here. It doesn’t matter what others think, they will get over it…We have to remember it is our immortal souls on the line.
I have found friends that don’t support me in my beliefs are not real friends. There is a saying that when you are dying, you will be able to count all your real friends on one hand…I agree with that, but in all reality, I know it will be less than five for me. It is not that I don’t love the other friends, it is that they may not love me.
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How old is this person who is getting married? Tell her that in case she forgot, going to a Male Strip Club is morally wrong and in your opinion rather immature and you have no desire to do either. Also, point out to her that when she’s married, she can have her husband all to herself stripping all that she wants in the privacy of their home.
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UKcatholicGuy
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Sir Knight:
because that’s what marriage is all about, right? :nope:
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misericordie
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Where does he say this? I would really and honestly like to bookmark this, please, thank you.
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ElizabethAnne, I appreciate the thoughts. I had considered this. The reality is that the entertainment exists and beckons them in every major city. If I had held my party here at home (Minneapolis/St. Paul), they would simply go out and do it after my party ends. I can’t really stop them from making their own decisions, as bad as they may be. You’re right, I can say that it’s wrong and I do that via my actions (not going when everyone expects it) and my statements (since planning this trip took 6 months, I’ve had plenty of opportunities to state my position on it).
StratusRose, I’m glad things worked out for you!
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Sir_Knight
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Marriage is about placing your partner’s needs before your own and as long as you do not attempt to prevent conception, anything and everything is permissable between a husband & wife – at least that’s what I was told by my parish priest about a dozen years ago when we were getting married.
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space_ghost
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nothing… i just relate what i hear!
…yeah, …that’s it…nasty old strip clubs…
…i don’t like the ones with the poles…err…so i hear anyway, at least i’m sure i wouldn’t…
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UKcatholicGuy
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Sir Knight:
The Church teaches that every conjugal act must be open to procreation. Orgasm, whether of the man or woman, constitutes a conjugal act. Therefore, if foreplay is used, it cannot result in orgasm, but can only be used to lead up to the marital act.
In other words, ANY sexual act that produces an orgasm in such a way that the orgasm would not be able to result in procreation is sinful. Hopefully you know what I’m getting at.
Also, I heard on Catholic Answers that the Church considers it immoral to induce sexual desire if a married couple is not in a setting where that dersire could be properly fulfilled. For example, it would be wrong for a husband to bring about sexual feelings in his wife while they’re in a restaurant, because he cannot fulfill those feelings-- which lead ultimately to the marital act-- while in a public place.
Make sense?
Actually, not everything is permissable in marriage. Without getting into too much grotesque detail, I’ll say this:
The Church teaches that every conjugal act must be open to procreation. Orgasm, whether of the man or woman, constitutes a conjugal act. Therefore, if foreplay is used, it cannot result in orgasm, but can only be used to lead up to the marital act.
In other words, ANY sexual act that produces an orgasm in such a way that the orgasm would not be able to result in procreation is sinful. Hopefully you know what I’m getting at.
Also, I heard on Catholic Answers that the Church considers it immoral to induce sexual desire if a married couple is not in a setting where that dersire could be properly fulfilled. For example, it would be wrong for a husband to bring about sexual feelings in his wife while they’re in a restaurant, because he cannot fulfill those feelings-- which lead ultimately to the marital act-- while in a public place.
Make sense?
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Katie1723
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:yup: Kathy
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sherilo
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Actually,
You are right to be put off by this sort of thing. I think that we have become desensitized with regard to what is right in the eyes of God. There is nothing wholesome or helpful about going to a strip club. It will not help your walk with Christ in any way. At the most, it will serve as cheap worldly thrills to anyone who goes. I sometimes struggle with the idea of what is right with God, and what the world sees as just people having fun as I grow closer to God, as do we all, I’m sure. But strip clubs have people taking their clothes off for money as drunken people leer and/or cheer them on. It serves no purpose. I pass a “gentlemens’ club” twice a day on my commute to work. As my small part in fighting against such places, I have said a prayer each time I pass it for the last four months. I pray that the employees will realize that they are offending God and hurting themselves, and they will turn away from that. Right now, the fancy marquee says that they need cooks and waitresses. They are always needing someone. I continue my one woman prayer vigil for the workers there. I realize what we are up against, but as long as the owner is short of employees, it may affect his business, and he will not be able to get as rich peddling flesh. That, and the prayer that at least one stripper will realize who and what her first love should really be, is my mission. Maybe, you could just politely decline the invitation, and start praying for the patrons and workers.
Just my two cents.
Sherilo
You are right to be put off by this sort of thing. I think that we have become desensitized with regard to what is right in the eyes of God. There is nothing wholesome or helpful about going to a strip club. It will not help your walk with Christ in any way. At the most, it will serve as cheap worldly thrills to anyone who goes. I sometimes struggle with the idea of what is right with God, and what the world sees as just people having fun as I grow closer to God, as do we all, I’m sure. But strip clubs have people taking their clothes off for money as drunken people leer and/or cheer them on. It serves no purpose. I pass a “gentlemens’ club” twice a day on my commute to work. As my small part in fighting against such places, I have said a prayer each time I pass it for the last four months. I pray that the employees will realize that they are offending God and hurting themselves, and they will turn away from that. Right now, the fancy marquee says that they need cooks and waitresses. They are always needing someone. I continue my one woman prayer vigil for the workers there. I realize what we are up against, but as long as the owner is short of employees, it may affect his business, and he will not be able to get as rich peddling flesh. That, and the prayer that at least one stripper will realize who and what her first love should really be, is my mission. Maybe, you could just politely decline the invitation, and start praying for the patrons and workers.
Just my two cents.
Sherilo
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This happened to me. In my younger days, I was not the person I am now. My childhood friend and roommate had her bachelorette party at a male strip club also, after dinner. I went to the dinner and not the strip club. I just told her the truth, that I was not comfortable going to the club but would love to go to dinner.My friend is getting married in July and her bachelorette party is next month at a male strip club. I went a long time ago when I was 18 and 19, but I was a different person then. The dancers usually dance erotically to 70s songs while the women scream erratically while getting drunk. I fail to find that entertaining.
I am having serious reservations about going because I think the club is nasty and immoral. However, I don’t want to tell my friends that, and I don’t want to lie to them about my not being able to go. How can I tell them that I don’t want to go with out hurting feelings or making me look like a prude?
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PiusXIII
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See—that’s just the kind of thing Catholics shouldn’t be taking part in.
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