I believe in doing everything possible to comply with the Divine will, and leaving with credible doubt about the validity of a confession would be a failure to do that.Are you telling me that if you walked into the confessional with a mortal sin and you confessed that mortal sin but did not have perfect contrition and the priest didn’t get th form correct but obviously had every intention of forgiving you and you walked out and had a massive heart, God would send you to hell for that mortal sin?
Is that what you believe?
Now you are guilty of the sin of calumny by accusing me of lying. Show me where I accused you of public detraction and show me where I called ANY of your actions, prior to now, a “sin”.Just more calumny and lies. Dig yourself a deeper hole.
It’s easy to infer. Now, you’re the one who’s being legalistic.Now you are guilty of the sin of calumny by accusing me of lying. Show me where I accused you of public detraction and show me where I called ANY of your actions, prior to now, a “sin”.
I do not “infer” anything. I say what I mean and mean what I say. If you wish to read hidden meanings that do not exist into things – then that is your bsuiness but do not accuse others of things that they did not do.It’s easy to infer. Now, you’re the one who’s being legalistic.
“Show me where I used the word! Aha! Gotcha!”
If the priest refuses to us the correct form, as decreed by the Church, I think we have every reason to doubt whether he intends to perform the sacrament as the Church intends.Are you telling me that if you walked into the confessional with a mortal sin and you confessed that mortal sin but did not have perfect contrition and the priest didn’t get th form correct but obviously had every intention of forgiving you and you walked out and had a massive heart, God would send you to hell for that mortal sin?
Is that what you believe?
If the priest refuses to us the correct form, as decreed by the Church, I think we have every reason to doubt whether he intends to perform the sacrament as the Church intends.
I’m not talking about saying “I forgive you” instead of “I absolve you” or another minor slip up.
The OP reports the priest said the following, and refused to us the correct form.
**“I ask God to free you from all your temptations and iniquities…”
“I ask Christ to absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”
Those formulations lead one to question if the priest doubts his ability to act in persona Christi and actually forgive sins.
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He’s asking, not absolving. He’s not supposed to be asking.
Sacraments require proper form, matter and intent. When you mess with the form intentionally, and refuse to correct it, you cast serious doubts that your intent is that of the Church.
God Bless