Bad Protestant Songs?

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I’m clearing out any protestant songs that are against Catholic Doctrine (since I’m joining the Catholic Church :)) Have deleted many but just in case…

Any popular protestant songs that are against Catholic Doctrine?
From artists such as Chris Tomlin, Jesus Culture, Matt Redman, Hillsong?
 
I’m clearing out any protestant songs that are against Catholic Doctrine (since I’m joining the Catholic Church :)) Have deleted many but just in case…

Any popular protestant songs that are against Catholic Doctrine?
From artists such as Chris Tomlin, Jesus Culture, Matt Redman, Hillsong?
I love a lot of these artists…Hillsong especially. Don’t throw them out just cuz their church is heretical!

But it is a good idea to not listen to music that is not in line with the faith.

That song “your love never fails” by Newsboys drives me nuts. They say over and over “you make all things work together for my good”. It is too prosperity gospel leaning the way they sing it. Like God will make you not have hardships in this world.

I think Job would disagree…and Jesus
 
I love a lot of these artists…Hillsong especially. Don’t throw them out just cuz their church is heretical!

But it is a good idea to not listen to music that is not in line with the faith.

That song “your love never fails” by Newsboys drives me nuts. They say over and over “you make all things work together for my good”. It is too prosperity gospel leaning the way they sing it. Like God will make you not have hardships in this world.

I think Job would disagree…and Jesus
I think you misunderstand, Jon. That passage is taken straight from Scripture, and does not mean you will not have hardship in this world. It means that God can take all of our sufferings and hardships and bring good out of them for His purpose. That has been a constant Church teaching since St. Paul wrote it. It is what gives us hope in this world where we often experience suffering and hardship.

The passage is from Romans 8:28 and the following verses explain it very well. The ultimate meaning (from the Scripture) is that nothing can separate us from the love of God, thus the title of the song.

I personally love that song, and do not consider it “prosperity gospel” at all, it is straight from Scripture, and something we should always remember, and yes, sing about.

However, each to his own.
 
I think you misunderstand, Jon. That passage is taken straight from Scripture, and does not mean you will not have hardship in this world. It means that God can take all of our sufferings and hardships and bring good out of them for His purpose. That has been a constant Church teaching since St. Paul wrote it. It is what gives us hope in this world where we often experience suffering and hardship.

The passage is from Romans 8:28 and the following verses explain it very well. The ultimate meaning (from the Scripture) is that nothing can separate us from the love of God, thus the title of the song.

I personally love that song, and do not consider it “prosperity gospel” at all, it is straight from Scripture, and something we should always remember, and yes, sing about.

However, each to his own.
Oh yes I fully understand that.

It might just be me, or the sermons I’d here before or after that song that taint it for me. I can’t here it without hearing a preacher promise me riches!
 
I’ve often wondered about a hymn that we sing several times a year " The Church’s one Foundation is Jesus Christ our Lord". Seems to me that since we believe that the Church was built on Peter that this is a Protestant hymn.
 
I’ve often wondered about a hymn that we sing several times a year " The Church’s one Foundation is Jesus Christ our Lord". Seems to me that since we believe that the Church was built on Peter that this is a Protestant hymn.
Oh no. Peter is the Rock, but the Bible says Jesus Christ is the cornerstone. He is the foundation and the founder of the Church. Not Protestant at all, but thoroughly Catholic and Christian.
 
I think of older Protestant “songs” as opposed to hymns. The00y are mostly subjective about how Jesus makes “me” feel. They emphasize the first person pronoun.

It has been over 30 years since I was Protestant, but I remember one in particular that was very popular at the time.

“In the Garden”

I go to the garden alone. while the dew is still on the roses…and the joy we tarry there the Son of God discloses.

Chorus: And he walks with me and he talks with me and he tells me I am his own.
And the joy we share as we tarry there, none other has ever known.

Me and Jesus alone all the way.
 
Oh no. Peter is the Rock, but the Bible says Jesus Christ is the cornerstone. He is the foundation and the founder of the Church. Not Protestant at all, but thoroughly Catholic and Christian.
The hymn is usually sung, or used to be sung among evangelicals as an explicit refusal of Petrine authority, the idea being that since Jesus is the foundation, then St. Peter and the Petrine office can’t be the rock on which the Church is built. Given the period the author wrote it, it would seem that he was defending the Anglicanism which had been influenced by the Oxford movement, which saw itself as the via media between Protestantism and Catholicism.
 
I love most Protestant hymns and think that Catholics would do well to incorporate more of them into the Mass, especially the “gospel” hymns by composers like Fanny Crosby, and a lot of the hymns written during and after the Great Awakening. I really miss these glorious hymns so much–the strong and beautiful melodies and the thought-provoking relevant words. I often sit down and play and sing them on my own.

If there are “problems” with the theology, then the Catholics should do some editing–after all, the Protestants edited many Catholic hymns to make them align with Protestant theology. Turn about is fair play, right?

I just think it’s a shame that most Catholics know only ancient hymns with obscure Shakespearean language, or modern hymns that use analogies obviously gleaned from the “Flower Children” days.

However, I’ll stick to the topic! Since the topic is “bad Protestant songs,” I’m going to give you the last verse of a Protestant hymn called “Praise the Savior, Ye Who Know Him” that my husband and I simply could not sing with a straight face. I think you’ll see why when you read this “tongue-twister” of a last verse::

Then we shall be where we would be,
Then we shall be what we should be,
Things that are not now, nor could be,
Soon shall be our own.

I will say that it was a riot listening to the congregation mangle these words!

Also, if you are in the mood for a good chuckle, youtube “A.B. Simpson” hymns. A.B. Simpson was the founder of the Christian and Missionary Alliance (C & MA) denomination, and he wrote a lot of his own hymns. If you want to see Protestant music ministers grimace, mention A.B. Simpson hymns

Pastor Simpson’s hymns are painfully a-melodic. At the time Pastor Simpson wrote hymns, “Scottish” music was in vogue, and he used a lot of the little “hops” in the music that you would hear in Scottish popular songs. In fact, I refuse to play the “hops” in “Holy God, We Praise Thy Name” because I think they are so ugly and weird. A…B Simpson music is full of them. And a lot of the hymns have the strangest melodies, with no attempt to mind the rules of music writing! Great words, but I always said that someone needs to sit down and write different melodies for all of Pastor Simpson’s hymns. I do like his hymn, “Jesus Only,” especially if it sung slowly rather than Gospel tempo.

**EDIT: Just for fun (because I’m sick and needed a laugh), I youtubed Simpson hymns, and YES!!–lots of people have actually done what I suggested years ago–re-written his old hymns! Wow! Way to go, C & MAers!!

So be careful–if you youtube his hymns and think, “This is kind of pretty. Cat is crazy if she doesn’t like this!” --it’s probably a re-write! Make sure you are listening to the “original” A…B. Simpson hymns, not one of the nice re-writes!**
 
I can’t necessarily think of any “bad” songs off the top of my head… I think my problem with a lot of the songs is the poor lyricism. I suppose as a poet and English major, I simply feel like God deserves better worship songs. But as a self-confessed lyric snob… 😉
 
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