The speaking in tongues by Pentecostal isn’t the same one as in Act. I been to a Non-Denom which also have speaking in tongues, and most of it was just jibberish. It isn’t a language. I ask if that was Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, and other ancient language of the East, and it isn’t… so I doubt it is the real. It’s fake.I don’t understand what you are getting at… are you saying that tongues are not of the Holy Ghost? or that this one girl faked it?
The bible specifically speaks to people speaking in tongues, prophesizing, healing, etc. through the Spirit. Please clarify your argument.
Goodness…I didn’t mean to start a war and name calling. I only expressed a truth/. I am offended by anyone or any church who says they know all truth. Jesus said He was the Truth. Jesus said nothing about many of the rituals of the Catholic Church.
You submitted a straw man argument when you said that Catholic church says it knows everything. I doesn’t ever nor has it ever said that it knows “everything.” Only God knows everything. The Catholic church says it has the “fullness of truth” given in divine revelation.
I happen to believe that Peter told believers on “The Day of Pentecost” they should be baptized “IN THE NAME OF JESUS” for the remission of sins.
I just check the Catholic Encyclopedia from newadvent.org the information your provided is no where to be found.What is it about the name of Jesus that you believe God would object to?
I pray for all who read this as Paul said before, “That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:” (Ephesians 1:17).
Outside References on the history of baptism:
BRITANICA ENCYCLOPEDIA
The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son &
Holy Ghost by the Catholic Church in the Second Century. – 11th Edit., Vol. 3, ppg. 365-366.
CANNEY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION
The early church always baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until development of the Trinity
Doctrine in the Second Century.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA
Here the Catholics acknowledged that baptism was changed by the Catholic Church. – Vol. 2,
pg. 263.
HASTINGS ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION
Christian baptism was administered using the words, “in the name of Jesus.” – Vol. 2, pg. 377.
Baptism was always in the name of Lord Jesus until time of Justin Martyr when Triune formula
used. – Vol. 2, pg. 389. NAME was an ancient synonym for “person.” Payment was always made
in the name of some person referring to ownership. Therefore one being baptized in Jesus’
name became His personal property. “Ye are Christ’s.” – Vol. 2, pg. 377 on Acts 2:38.
Yahweh is defined in Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance by number 3068 Yahovah yeh-ho-vaw’ from 01961; TWOT-484a; n pr dei AV-LORD 6510, GOD 4, JEHOVAH 4, variant 1; 6519 Jehovah =" the existing One" 1) the proper name of the one true God 1a) unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of 0136
Your religions was founded in the 20th Century. The Catholic Church been there longer over, 2,000 yrs. I trust the Church. Onenessism (Jesus Only) also denies the Trinity. There is a heresy called Sabellanism, which denies it, and your Church is similiar to that ancient heresy as well as modalism.The bible clearly speaks to us about tongues, “To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:” (1 Cor 12:10). So tongues is a spiritual gift.
It also tells us that those who speak in tongues speak unto God in an unknown tongue, so the tongue doesn’t need to be defined. “For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.” (1 Cor 14:2) So sometimes it isn’t the purpose of a tongue to speak unto men but unto God. If God needs to speak unto men, he will have it interpreted.
I have no doubt that some people fake speaking in tongues, or even speak in tongues not of God. But to say that all tongues are fake or to turn away from tongues just based on a few people who may do it just to be seen or heard of men is closing the book on what God uses sometimes.
Tongues have their place in the church and the work of the church just as the other gifts spoken of in 1 Cor 12. Praying in tongues can also have our Spirit pray unto God when we don’t know how to pray or our prayers are weak.
“Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.” (Romans 8:26). So whether sometimes the Spirit speaks to God with or without sounds. Sometimes groanings comes forth that we ourselves don’t understand, but God can, since it is from His Spirit.
God Bless.
Many people believe that the Oneness doctrine came into existence only in the early 20th century during the latter days of the Azusa Street Revival. Oneness historians, however, such as Dr. Curtis Ward, William Chalfant, Dr. Gary P. Reckart Sr., Dr. David Bernard, Dr. Marvin Arnold, and Thomas Weisser have gathered substantial evidence that they believe reveals there were Oneness believers long before the Azusa Street Revival that lead all the way to the beginning of the first century Christian church. Dr. Ward in particular has proposed the unorthodox view of an unbroken Church lineage in which the Pentecostal Church has succeeded in continual perpetuity throughout history. Other more moderate approaches teach there were bursts of unconnected Pentecostal revivals at different time periods.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneness_Pentecostal#_note-Oneness.Trinity.and.orthodoxyThere are no indications, however, that the pioneering Oneness Pentecostal figures in the early twentieth century were either guided or inspired by any of these prior sources including ancient Modalists such as Sabellius, Noetus or Praxeas. However, modern Oneness people often stress dependence solely upon God and the Bible for the formation of their doctrines, seeking guidance not from post-biblical writings of men, but from illumination by God upon the Bible. Post-biblical church history is deemed by Oneness people to be of interest, but not binding upon them for their doctrinal views. Thus, they are unorthodox in the literal sense of the word.[2]
Again I don’t even know what you are talking about when you say my church. What I have told you and quoted is straight from the bible. Please point out scriptural points that I have made rather than a vague description of what Pentecostals believe, or what Onenessism believes. I have not eluded that I believe like either, nor do I really know all of what they believe. I have given you scripture, which is given from God.
However, I will say, that salvation comes from none other but Jesus Christ. Not me, you, your church, your pastor, preacher, pope… None other but Jesus. “Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” His name brings salvation.
The grace of God saves men. That Grace is Jesus Christ. What other grace is there that we could be saved?
I write so that God’s will shall be done. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16).
It doesn’t matter to me if you believe me for my sake, but for your sake that you would turn to Jesus and believe and follow Him, and not only what your church says but what He says.
I received Jesus during Mass in the Blessed Sacrament because as a Catholic I believe the Blessed Eucharist is Truly Jesus, His presence Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity is there. The Catholic Church honor and give adorations to the Blessed Lord Jesus Christ. Through his name, people are baptized, sins are forgiven, and demons are cast out.God Bless,
Daniel.
Jesus Himself said that he and the Father are one. And Jesus also said to His disciples, "It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper (Holy Spirit) will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you." (John 16:7)
This is the proof of the Holy Spirit also being present in Him...as it is written: "For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." (Col.2:9)
Which as we know was the reason it was necessary for the disciples to tarry in Jerusalem to receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Isn't the Trinity doctrine evident throughout the scriptures?When Jesus prayed, "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; that they may all be one, as you Father, are in Me, and I in you; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me."
Look at this: Since Jesus is in the Father, and the Father in Jesus, and the Holy Spirit indwells us...it is necessary in order for the Holy Trinity or Jesus' body to be manifested to the world that the body be one in Christ! Again, "Is Christ divided?
Just as the "Fullness of the Godhead dwelt in Jesus bodily" (or in His physical body); now, when the Father and the Son and the and the Holy Spirit are One in the church, then Christ is manifested to the world! "That the world may believe." Because as it stands right now the Godhead hasn't been completed on earth, because we are divided. thus the reason for the ineffectiveness of the body on earth.Do you realize that if we as the body were one, and exact representation of Christ Jesus (The Trinity) how the power of Christ to heal the sick, to open the eyes of the blind, and the ears of the deaf, to feed the multitudes would be possible?
Just as the people flocked to Jesus when He was here on earth, they would flock to the church the body of Christ! Not this denomination or that one...but they would pursue Christ just as they did when He was here on earth.
"Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look at the fields, for they are already white for harvest" (John 5:35b)