Baptism=yes Communion=no

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Hello! I am Catholic and my fiance is taking RCIA classes. They break up into little groups at the end of the evening for discussions. One of the men in his group asked why Protestant baptism is recognized by the Catholic Church for conversion, but not Communion. I think they were questioning why they don’t have to be baptized again, but they can’t receive Communion? I’d like to take them some feedback on why the Church teaches this…Thanks!
 
The Catholic church recognizes all baptisms that use proper form and intent.

As long as you use water and say “I baptise you in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit” it recognizes the baptism.

Even in the event of an emergency, any Catholic can baptise anyone that is willing to receive it. It doesn’t have to be a priest or deacon. The only questions about validity of baptisms are in the churches that don’t recognize the same view of the Trinity as the Catholic church (i.e. LDS church)

Communion is a totally different Sacrament. The Catholic church only recognizes that the communion of the Catholic and Orthodox churches are valid. In any other churches that have a “communion” service people are only receiving bread and wine/grape juice.

To receive communion in the Catholic church (except in unusual circumstances), you must either be Catholic or Orthodox to receive communion because a) in order not to profain the Eucharist you must believe that it is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ b) free of mortal sin c) in communion with the ideals of the Catholic church (that is why it is called communion.)

Baptism and Communion are two different sacraments. The Catholic church also recognizes non-Catholic weddings as long as both members aren’t Catholic and the minimum requirements are meet (i.e. both parties willing, man/woman, etc.)
 
Thank you very much! I will print this and take it with me tonight.
 
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Marauder:
The Catholic church recognizes all baptisms that use proper form and intent.

As long as you use water and say “I baptise you in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit” it recognizes the baptism.

Even in the event of an emergency, any Catholic can baptise anyone that is willing to receive it. It doesn’t have to be a priest or deacon. The only questions about validity of baptisms are in the churches that don’t recognize the same view of the Trinity as the Catholic church (i.e. LDS church)

Communion is a totally different Sacrament. The Catholic church only recognizes that the communion of the Catholic and Orthodox churches are valid. In any other churches that have a “communion” service people are only receiving bread and wine/grape juice.

To receive communion in the Catholic church (except in unusual circumstances), you must either be Catholic or Orthodox to receive communion because a) in order not to profain the Eucharist you must believe that it is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ b) free of mortal sin c) in communion with the ideals of the Catholic church (that is why it is called communion.)

Baptism and Communion are two different sacraments. The Catholic church also recognizes non-Catholic weddings as long as both members aren’t Catholic and the minimum requirements are meet (i.e. both parties willing, man/woman, etc.)
There are some limited exceptions - please see
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=324259&postcount=28
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=324122&postcount=24
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=324123&postcount=25
 
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Marauder:
Communion is a totally different Sacrament. The Catholic church only recognizes that the communion of the Catholic and Orthodox churches are valid. In any other churches that have a “communion” service people are only receiving bread and wine/grape juice.

To receive communion in the Catholic church (except in unusual circumstances), you must either be Catholic or Orthodox to receive communion because a) in order not to profain the Eucharist you must believe that it is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ b) free of mortal sin c) in communion with the ideals of the Catholic church (that is why it is called communion.)
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CCC

scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c1a3.htm

The Eucharist and the unity of Christians. Before the greatness of this mystery St. Augustine exclaims, "O sacrament of devotion! O sign of unity! O bond of charity!"237 The more painful the experience of the divisions in the Church which break the common participation in the table of the Lord, the more urgent are our prayers to the Lord that the time of complete unity among all who believe in him may return.

1399 The Eastern churches that are not in full communion with the Catholic Church celebrate the Eucharist with great love. “These Churches, although separated from us, yet possess true sacraments, above all - by apostolic succession - the priesthood and the Eucharist, whereby they are still joined to us in closest intimacy.” A certain communion in sacris, and so in the Eucharist, "given suitable circumstances and the approval of Church authority, is not merely possible but is encouraged."238

1400 Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, "have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders."239 It is for this reason that, for the Catholic Church, Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible. However these ecclesial communities, "when they commemorate the Lord’s death and resurrection in the Holy Supper . . . profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory."240

1401 When, in the Ordinary’s judgment, a grave necessity arises, Catholic ministers may give the sacraments of Eucharist, Penance, and Anointing of the Sick to other Christians not in full communion with the Catholic Church, who ask for them of their own will, provided they give evidence of holding the Catholic faith regarding these sacraments and possess the required dispositions.241
 
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JGC:
There are some limited exceptions
Yes, I know that there are exceptions, but it was well beyond the scope of what the original poster was asking for.

I even mention that there are exceptions in my post.
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Marauder:
(except in unusual circumstances)
I figured if the person really wanted to know about the exceptions they would ask.
 
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Marauder:
Yes, I know that there are exceptions, but it was well beyond the scope of what the original poster was asking for.

I even mention that there are exceptions in my post.

I figured if the person really wanted to know about the exceptions they would ask.
Going word blind. Didn’t see the bit in brackets. Sorry. :banghead:
 
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