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I’ve got a question that I’ve never been able to get a satisfactory answer to and I thought these forums would be as good a place as any to try to get some clarity.
My question is about Lay Catholic Chaplains administering Baptism for adults in the hosptial and in hospice. I am training to become a lay Catholic Chaplain and have encountered two instanced so far of patients requesting baptism from me as a lay Catholic. I have performed these baptisms, but I’ve always had a strong feeling of uncertainty about whether I should be.
In both cases the patients were in danger of death, but whether that death would be tomorrow, or 6 months from now was unclear. Medically they were considered stable but declining. I guess I’m wondering how imminent does the danger of death need to be before it would be proper for me, as a laymen, to baptize? Does their need to be definite terminal prognosis and a suspicion that death is days if not hours away? Or is it sufficient that the person is in a medically compromised state, with a likely, though not certain terminal prognosis and is just as likely to die tomorrow or months from now. In saying that I mean that it’s a very real possibility that they COULD die tomorrow, but it also wouldn’t be surprising to the physician if they lasted a month or two or even more. Working in hospice has taught me that there’s a lot of uncertainty in life expectancy at the end of life. Just today, in fact, I heard of a fellow lay Catholic chaplain who baptized a hospice patient, which perhaps falls under the category of imminent death, but also this patient’s perfectly healthy daughter! Something like that would have to be beyond what the Church allows for lay people to do right?
Another complicating factor is that these patients have both been pretty clear with me that they do not intend to seek out any kind of relationship with the local Catholic parish or even a protestant community near by. It just seems strange to me that these people would seek baptism but not seek fellowship with other Christians if they had the chance. Things like this make me suspect that perhaps these people don’t have the same understanding of baptism that the Church does, and if that’s the case, I start to wonder if I shouldn’t be seeking to understand what this person’s actual belief about baptism is. Which then makes me wonder, is there a view of baptism that a patient could describe to me, that is so far from what the Church teaches that I should decline to perform the baptism? If so, what would be the minimum requirements a person should meet before I could honor their request?
I’d be especially interested if anyone had any information from a cannon law perspective that could shed light on this, though any clarity at all would be appreciated!
My question is about Lay Catholic Chaplains administering Baptism for adults in the hosptial and in hospice. I am training to become a lay Catholic Chaplain and have encountered two instanced so far of patients requesting baptism from me as a lay Catholic. I have performed these baptisms, but I’ve always had a strong feeling of uncertainty about whether I should be.
In both cases the patients were in danger of death, but whether that death would be tomorrow, or 6 months from now was unclear. Medically they were considered stable but declining. I guess I’m wondering how imminent does the danger of death need to be before it would be proper for me, as a laymen, to baptize? Does their need to be definite terminal prognosis and a suspicion that death is days if not hours away? Or is it sufficient that the person is in a medically compromised state, with a likely, though not certain terminal prognosis and is just as likely to die tomorrow or months from now. In saying that I mean that it’s a very real possibility that they COULD die tomorrow, but it also wouldn’t be surprising to the physician if they lasted a month or two or even more. Working in hospice has taught me that there’s a lot of uncertainty in life expectancy at the end of life. Just today, in fact, I heard of a fellow lay Catholic chaplain who baptized a hospice patient, which perhaps falls under the category of imminent death, but also this patient’s perfectly healthy daughter! Something like that would have to be beyond what the Church allows for lay people to do right?
Another complicating factor is that these patients have both been pretty clear with me that they do not intend to seek out any kind of relationship with the local Catholic parish or even a protestant community near by. It just seems strange to me that these people would seek baptism but not seek fellowship with other Christians if they had the chance. Things like this make me suspect that perhaps these people don’t have the same understanding of baptism that the Church does, and if that’s the case, I start to wonder if I shouldn’t be seeking to understand what this person’s actual belief about baptism is. Which then makes me wonder, is there a view of baptism that a patient could describe to me, that is so far from what the Church teaches that I should decline to perform the baptism? If so, what would be the minimum requirements a person should meet before I could honor their request?
I’d be especially interested if anyone had any information from a cannon law perspective that could shed light on this, though any clarity at all would be appreciated!