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[aragonjohn1]

Aw…it’s boring to get the facts about what the Church really teaches? When the Church has defined what it teaches, then, “boring” or not the matter is closed. The Church is not a democracy even though some people seem to think it should be.

I know and post on another couple of good Catholic forums, but they make this one look wild and wooly by comparison, so you wouldn’t be happy there.

Moreover, the moderation here at CAF is anything but “heavy” since they allow more than ample discussion and debate, and always have. I know because I’ve been on here since about 6 months after they came online back in 2004. It’s grown like mad since then.

I don’t know what you think you’re looking for, but I can tell you now that there’s far less Catholic n00bs here on CAF than you seem to think. To be honest you sound more like one than most of the other folks on this thread.

Anyway, BB is a bad joke and any Catholic who’s been tossed off there should probably consider it a badge of honor. I told 'em I was Catholic and they wouldn’t even let me join. Small loss really. If they want to know what we actually believe, they know where to find us.

that brought to mind one website with a Catholic “section” Reddit

Shalom
God Bless

 

[BVMFatima]

Avoid Protestant websites. I use to be a Baptist and its nothing but a false religion. For example, where is Bible Alone, faith alone, or once saved always saved in the bible? They teach very dangerous doctrine as to not baptize babies and that you can be saved and going to heaven even if you sin against the commandments. That’s evil and doctrine of demonds. Which baptist church is that website even aimed too? Not all Baptist churches are in communion with one another. For example, fundimental independent baptist, first baptist, Bible fellowship baptist church, second and third baptist church, congregational born again baptist church etc. They all have different doctrines, that goes for all Protestant denominations as there are 35,000 in protestantism and all claim the holy spirit inspired scripture for them. Is the holy spirit confused? No! That’s why I came to the one true Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church! Stay away from Protestantism! May God Bless you!

 

[TEPO]

Aw…it’s boring to get the facts about what the Church really teaches? When the Church has defined what it teaches, then, “boring” or not the matter is closed. The Church is not a democracy even though some people seem to think it should be.

I know and post on another couple of good Catholic forums, but they make this one look wild and wooly by comparison, so you wouldn’t be happy there.

Moreover, the moderation here at CAF is anything but “heavy” since they allow more than ample discussion and debate, and always have. I know because I’ve been on here since about 6 months after they came online back in 2004. It’s grown like mad since then.

I don’t know what you think you’re looking for, but I can tell you now that there’s far less Catholic n00bs here on CAF than you seem to think. To be honest you sound more like one than most of the other folks on this thread.

Anyway, BB is a bad joke and any Catholic who’s been tossed off there should probably consider it a badge of honor. I told 'em I was Catholic and they wouldn’t even let me join. Small loss really. If they want to know what we actually believe, they know where to find us.

The difference between me and other posters here is that I’m attempting to make Catholicism the backbone of my life -not as a theologian, or CCC guru, but as a construction worker surrounded in a world of sin… I’ll admit, that when I’m 200 feet in the air on a steel lattice tower, and a giant helicopter or crane is attempting to land the top bridge, and I only have a short amount of time to get my spud wrench into the bolt hole to pin the steel together -ive been known to mutter a few uncharitable words. Especially if I’m sitting on top with my legs wrapped around the main rail with very few resources for balance or stability.

So my presence here on CAF becomes a grounding source for me to stay bonded with the Church, as I’ll glance through posts on my lunch break or when I’m away from my family… It keeps me out of trouble and in line.

My point is that I don’t use the forums to learn what the Church “really teaches” (I already know what she teaches), I use them to keep me grounded or ‘bonded’ with the Church in my everyday life. But that’s just me… (sorry for venting, but I just needed to get that out).

 

[Anna_Scott]

Avoid Protestant websites. I use to be a Baptist and its nothing but a false religion. For example, where is Bible Alone, faith alone, or once saved always saved in the bible? They teach very dangerous doctrine as to not baptize babies and that you can be saved and going to heaven even if you sin against the commandments. That’s evil and doctrine of demonds. Which baptist church is that website even aimed too? Not all Baptist churches are in communion with one another. For example, fundimental independent baptist, first baptist, Bible fellowship baptist church, second and third baptist church, congregational born again baptist church etc. They all have different doctrines, that goes for all Protestant denominations as there are 35,000 in protestantism and all claim the holy spirit inspired scripture for them. Is the holy spirit confused? No! That’s why I came to the one true Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church! Stay away from Protestantism! May God Bless you!

BVMFatima,
I agree that many Baptist doctrines are not Biblical, which is one of the reasons I left the Southern Baptist Church.

However, keep in mind that the Catholic Church teaches “All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.”

Catechism of the Catholic Church
Wounds to unity

817 In fact, "in this one and only Church of God from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures as damnable. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from full communion with the Catholic Church - for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame."269 The ruptures that wound the unity of Christ’s Body - here we must distinguish heresy, apostasy, and schism270 - do not occur without human sin:

Where there are sins, there are also divisions, schisms, heresies, and disputes. Where there is virtue, however, there also are harmony and unity, from which arise the one heart and one soul of all believers.271

818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers . . . . All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church."272

819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth"273 are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements."274 Christ’s Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him,275 and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity."276

 

[TEPO]

Ahhhh…! Don’t watch that link…! That was an accident, I don’t know how it got there -I tried to erase it but I timed out on my editing. (that’s the infamous movie that’s causing controversy amongst the Muslims…

Oops.

 

[BVMFatima]

I agree Anna that they are Christians, but they are not THE CHURCH

 

[Porknpie]

I can’t help but comment…

So… I read this on the BB website regarding other denominations:

As co-moderator of this forum, I tend to be rather light handed and often lurk only in the shadows

good place for you to be.

Therefore some topics may degenerate rather quickly. It is my opinion that it would be unreasonable to think that the nature of the debates presented here would always remain civil, given the fact that we are all “earnestly contending for the faith.”

Your job in part as the moderator is to make sure that the debates do stay civil. That is reasonable as the bible tells us to treat each other with love and respect.

Christ told us in Matthew 5:14-16 that we are like the lights of a city on a hill.

Yes he did. The light is to bear witness of Christ’s message. This includes receiving his body and blood in the Eucharist, confession of sins, sacramental baptism & baptism of infants and obeying his church on earth.

So dive in! The water’s choppy, sometimes cold, sometimes hot, rarely tepid, and **full of piranha and sharks, **

And some wolves…

Thank you CAF for doing what you do, how you do it.

 

[Anna_Scott]

I agree Anna that they are Christians, but they are not THE CHURCH

Yet, there is only one Mystical Body of Christ, into which those who have been justified in faith in baptism—in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—may enter. We are all children of the Lord and brothers and sisters in Christ.

That’s the point I was trying to make about non-Catholics—and particular to this discussion: Baptists.

I encourage you to be careful when attributing the words “evil” and “doctrine of demons” to Baptists; or other non-Catholic Christians, for that matter.

 

[tabycat]

TEPO,
Actually, this is one of the best online forums and the moderators keep it that way.

There are some great Catholics here, who do go into depth and are willing to take on serious discussions.

Also, there’s nothing wrong with “newbies.” I think most Catholics are happy to have new members come to the Catholic Church. So, why would you complain about “newbies”?

As for the CCC, I have one on my desk; and I’m Anglican.

Sometimes it’s nice to be a “newbie”! You get to ask all thouse questions, even if they sound silly.

 

[tabycat]

The difference between me and other posters here is that I’m attempting to make Catholicism the backbone of my life -not as a theologian, or CCC guru, but as a construction worker surrounded in a world of sin… I’ll admit, that when I’m 200 feet in the air on a steel lattice tower, and a giant helicopter or crane is attempting to land the top bridge, and I only have a short amount of time to get my spud wrench into the bolt hole to pin the steel together -ive been known to mutter a few uncharitable words. Especially if I’m sitting on top with my legs wrapped around the main rail with very few resources for balance or stability.

So my presence here on CAF becomes a grounding source for me to stay bonded with the Church, as I’ll glance through posts on my lunch break or when I’m away from my family… It keeps me out of trouble and in line.

My point is that I don’t use the forums to learn what the Church “really teaches” (I already know what she teaches), I use them to keep me grounded or ‘bonded’ with the Church in my everyday life. But that’s just me… (sorry for venting, but I just needed to get that out).

I;m here because it feels like home (I don’t know about other posters). :slapfight::stretcher::manvspc: :grouphug:

 

[TEPO]

I;m here because it feels like home (I don’t know about other posters). :slapfight::stretcher::manvspc: :grouphug:

Don’t get me wrong taby, I have no problem with new members posting here, it’s just that a lot of members w/ posts in the thousands have seemed to have disappeared as of lately… Sometimes when I make a post, it sits in the ‘recent posts’ category for hours, when before a post became old after only ten minutes… That tells me that people aren’t posting here as much. It’s becoming like a ghost-town when it used to be much more vibrant. There used to be a great wide variety of personality types here… Now it feels like, for the most part, all people are doing is parroting the CCC. Although today was a better day for the forums.

 

[Church_Militant]

I agree Anna that they are Christians, but they are not THE CHURCH

A point that the Church has made clear in recent years. Responses to Some Questions Regarding Certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church

 

[Church_Militant]

TEPO,
Actually, this is one of the best online forums and the moderators keep it that way.

There are some great Catholics here, who do go into depth and are willing to take on serious discussions.

Also, there’s nothing wrong with “newbies.” I think most Catholics are happy to have new members come to the Catholic Church. So, why would you complain about “newbies”?

As for the CCC, I have one on my desk; and I’m Anglican. Yeah, and often the best way to get deeper into our most holy faith is to be helping others find those answers that they are looking for. Bishop Sheen used to say that he enjoyed teaching because he learned along with his students.

Sometimes it’s nice to be a “newbie”! You get to ask all those questions, even if they sound silly.

Sometimes people forget the spiritual works of mercy, which are:

• **To instruct the ignorant; **
• **To counsel the doubtful; **
• **To admonish sinners; **
• **To bear wrongs patiently; **
• **To forgive offenses willingly; **
• **To comfort the afflicted; **
• **To pray for the living and the dead. **

I always think of the time when I had so many questions and needed answers to many questions myself, so I know how some folks feel. It’s not silly to ask, and we need to remember what my sainted Me-ma used to tell me to say. "There, but for the grace of God, go I."

Don’t get me wrong taby, I have no problem with new members posting here, it’s just that a lot of members w/ posts in the thousands have seemed to have disappeared as of lately… Sometimes when I make a post, it sits in the ‘recent posts’ category for hours, when before a post became old after only ten minutes… That tells me that people aren’t posting here as much. It’s becoming like a ghost-town when it used to be much more vibrant. There used to be a great wide variety of personality types here… Now it feels like, for the most part, all people are doing is parroting the CCC. Although today was a better day for the forums.

I disagree. You haven’t been here long have ya? I was here at CAF back when it was busy if there were a hundred people on at one time (2004-2005). Now we routinely exceed a thousand or more with over 357,000 members and growing and that’s a very long way from “a ghost-town”.

Well, ya know, life goes on and some people have moved on into various aspects of their faith journey. For example, I think of my dear friend Dan, who tells people that I carried him across the Tiber on my back. He came here as a fundamentalist and is now a very devout and very busy member of his parish along with his dear wife and their kids. I don’t get to talk to him nearly as much as I used to and I miss that fellowship that we share a great deal…but I know that he is making himself as useful as possible in sharing our most holy faith (IIRC he’s teaching an ongoing apologetics class in his parish as well as being a lector and other stuff.)

God has supplied me with a number of other good friends here on CAF as well. Zooey, Sirach2, JReducation and Justaservant, just to name a few, so it all balances out.

People here are not “parroting” anything. The catechism is a good and vital source for accurate and authoritative information on what the Church teaches on a wide variety of topics. It is only wise to go to the best source available. Once correct info has been supplied, then discussion can proceed, and IMO you won’t find a more eloquent and concise source for Catholic teaching than the Catechism, though there are actually about 3 new ones available that are also very good. My thinking is that if one wants the truth…one goes to the source.

 

[Lochias]

Lochias,
It’s nice that you posted this comment, because not all Baptists are like the folk that post on Baptist Board.

There are many kind and compassionate Baptists, who are devoted to serving our Lord and who are not consumed with hatred of those who believe differently.

Indeed. All types in all walks of life. It was the folks at that Baptist church that really helped to heal some of the wounds and misconceptions caused at a Methodist church beforehand (and I’ve known some super-nice Methodists, too, from other churches).

Without some of the help and friendliness I received from various non-Catholic Christians, I might not have come home to my own Church again.

 

[Anna_Scott]

Indeed. All types in all walks of life. It was the folks at that Baptist church that really helped to heal some of the wounds and misconceptions caused at a Methodist church beforehand (and I’ve known some super-nice Methodists, too, from other churches).

Without some of the help and friendliness I received from various non-Catholic Christians, I might not have come home to my own Church again.

Lochias,
I understand. Some wounds heal slowly.

Also, I don’t think we can really make blanket assumptions about any particular faith. There is good and bad where ever one chooses to worship—and there is always drama sooner of later.

Anna