Baptists attacking Catholic faith

[manny85]

I would like to if there is a site that concentrates on all the possible questions a baptist can throw at me a Catholic. The following are the 3 recent ones that I was told her i would get back to her when I got the answer to it.

1. Why do we pray to virgin mary
2. Virgin of Guadalupe is not in the bible, how come you pray to her
3. What proof do you have that the Catholic church is right

Ok i have knowledge but if there is a specific site for common questions please let me know about them, I’m tired of getting attacked on my faith

 

[JimG]

Yes: catholic.com/

which is the home page of Catholic Answers which hosts these forums. Go to the search box and type in a subject.

Better yet, get a copy of Karl Keating’s book “Catholicism and Fundamentalism,” which covers nearly every anti-Catholic canard ever invented.

 

[Church_Militant]

I have several sources that will help you.

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CRI’s Attack on Mary: Part I (This Rock: August 1992)
CRI’s Attack on Mary: Part II (This Rock: September 1992)
CRI’s Attack on Mary: Part III (This Rock: October 1992)
CRI’s Attack on Mary: Part IV (This Rock: November 1992)
CRI’s Attack on Mary: Part V (This Rock: December 1992)
CRI’s Attack on Mary: Part VI (This Rock: January 1993)
CRI’s Attack on Mary: Part VII (This Rock: February 1993)

The fallacy of the Queen of Heaven attack

Pillars of Reformation on Mary

 

[crimsonglory]

That person could be searching. Even though her questions might come across as attacks, she might be under conviction. God may in fact be using you to witness to her.

If her motive is to disprove your beliefs, than might I suggest you take a light handed approach. Such discussions are healthy…they promote understanding. Encourage her questions, and diligently answer them. Don’t lose your patience…pray.

My friend God is giving you an opportunity here. Embrace it. It gives you opportunity to re-affirm your own faith, and it gives you opportunity to witness to her.

Karl Keating’s book “Catholicism and Fundamentalism” is a good resource for you.

I think I’m a closet Catholic. (I’m so close to stepping out!!!)

btw, I’m working with a Baptist. These same discussions have come up. I completely understand where you’re coming from.

 

[R_C]

@Church Militant

For this, you officially deserve a hug.

Here it goes.

:hug1:

Edit: CrimsonGlory also deserves one for such a beautiful witness of charity. Either I’m overly sentimental tonight, or you are all doing a great job.

So here is yours.

:hug1:

And now I go to sleep…:sad_bye:

 

[pablope]

I would like to if there is a site that concentrates on all the possible questions a baptist can throw at me a Catholic. The following are the 3 recent ones that I was told her i would get back to her when I got the answer to it.

You came to the right place/website…

1. Why do we pray to virgin mary

These are basically the same…scripturecatholic.com/

1. What proof do you have that the Catholic church is right

The four marks of the church…zuserver2.star.ucl.ac.uk/~vgg/rc/aplgtc/hahn/m3/Mod3.html

 

[Sean_O_L]

One can hardly do better than the legendry Rev. Dr. Leslie Rumble, MSC, author of “RADIO REPLIES” (Three volumes) and two supplementary volumes, totalling over 6,000 Q & A’s, plus almost 100 separate pamphlets.
See: Consolidated Analytical Index to All Five Volumes of Questions and Answers by Dr Leslie Rumble, M.S.C. http://jloughnan.tripod.com/indexx.htm
Scroll to various links on “Catholic”, the “Mary” links
THE BAPTISTS http://jloughnan.tripod.com/baptists2.htm

 

[Porknpie]

I would like to if there is a site that concentrates on all the possible questions a baptist can throw at me a Catholic. The following are the 3 recent ones that I was told her i would get back to her when I got the answer to it.

1. Why do we pray to virgin mary
2. Virgin of Guadalupe is not in the bible, how come you pray to her
3. What proof do you have that the Catholic church is right

Ok i have knowledge but if there is a specific site for common questions please let me know about them, I’m tired of getting attacked on my faith

When you are done answering her three questions, it is only fair that she answer three questions from you. Some would be…(others can add to my list)

• Why does she believe baptism is only symbolic and not needed for salvation when the bible says otherwise?
• The same for receiving the Eucharist?
• What church canonized the books in the bible she is using?
• if she trusts that this church selected the right books out of hundreds, why not trust this same Church on faith and morals?
• Why is she not using the complete written Word of God, with 7 books having been removed by a printing company? (Catholics using 73 books, her using only 66)

 

[Ignatius]

I would like to if there is a site that concentrates on all the possible questions a baptist can throw at me a Catholic. The following are the 3 recent ones that I was told her i would get back to her when I got the answer to it.

1. Why do we pray to virgin mary
2. Virgin of Guadalupe is not in the bible, how come you pray to her
3. What proof do you have that the Catholic church is right

Ok i have knowledge but if there is a specific site for common questions please let me know about them, I’m tired of getting attacked on my faith

For discussions with Protestants such as Baptists or Evangelicals I would suggest John Martignoni’s Bible Christian Society. - biblechristiansociety.com/home.php

Also, what finally convinced me was this:

1. It was built by Jesus Christ himself (Matt 16:18) which means that His church must be about 2000 years old. This fact alone eliminates the vast majority of churches.
2. Jesus only built ONE church (Matt 16:18) hence there is only one.
3. The Church which Jesus Christ founded is the one to whom He revealed and which declared and decreed which books are to be contained in the New Testament.
4. Jesus handed His Authority to His Apostles (Mat 28:16-20), therefore His Church must be able to trace it’s chief pastors back in a line of succession to The Apostles.

Of course this doesn’t mean that someone else will be convinced by it.

 

[themonk86]

The other posters have given some great recommendations and I use almost all of them too. I would just like to add a couple books to help you:

“Theology for Beginners” and “Theology and Sanity” by Frank Sheed
“Catholic Evidence” by Frank Sheed and Maisie Ward
“The Faith of Millions” by Rev. John A. O’Brien
“Father Smith Instructs Jackson” by John Francis Noll
And of course,the “Catechism of the Catholic Church”.

Hope this helps and God bless.

 

[manny85]

Oh man you have all been very very very helpful, thank you everyone!!!


May God bless you all

 

[Porknpie]

Oh man you have all been very very very helpful, thank you everyone!!!


May God bless you all

Here’s one more to ask her about from lucky_catholic1 on the sabbatarians post in non-catholic religions. Why does she go to church on Sunday and not Saturday?

Hello People

Going way of topic.

I know I’m Posting a lot, but it’s a big issue, and thanks to the Pope and the Fellowship of Bishops
and Cardinals they have explained this point for us.

The Church Fathers has put this straight.

“It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.” Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

“Protestants … accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship after the Catholic Church made the change… But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that … in observing Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the Church, the pope.” Our Sunday Visitor, February 5th, 1950.

Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.” -Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50

‘‘The [Roman Catholic] Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her founder, Jesus Christ. THE PROTESTANT CLAIMING THE BIBLE TO BE THE ONLY GUIDE OF FAITH, HAS NO WARRANT FOR OBSERVING SUNDAY. In this matter the Seventh-day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant.’’ The Catholic Universe Bulletin, August 14, 1942, p. 4.

“… YOU MAY READ THE BIBLE FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION, AND YOU WILL NOT FIND A SINGLE LINE AUTHORIZING THE SANCTIFICATION OF SUNDAY. THE SCRIPTURES ENFORCE THE RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCE OF SATURDAY, A DAY WHICH WE NEVER SANCTIFY.” The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73.

‘Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God… The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.’’ Catholic Record, September 1, 1923.

“Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did, happened in the first century. The holy day, the Sabbath, was changed from Saturday to Sunday. “The Day of the Lord” (dies Dominica) was chosen, not from any directions noted in the Scriptures, but from the Church’s sense of its own power. The day of resurrection, the day of Pentecost, fifty days later, came on the first day of the week. So this would be the new Sabbath. People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become 7th Day Adventists, and keep Saturday holy.” Sentinel, Pastor’s page, Saint Catherine Catholic Church, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995

“If Protestants would follow the Bible, they would worship God on the Sabbath Day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.” Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920.

“The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church.” Monsignor Louis Segur, ‘Plain Talk about the Protestantism of Today’, p. 213.

Try this one:

''I have repeatedly offered $1,000 to anyone who can prove to me from the Bible alone that I am bound to keep Sunday holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy Catholic Church alone. The Bible says ‘Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.’ The Catholic Church says, No. By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week. And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the Holy Catholic Church." Priest Thomas Enright, C.S.S.R., February 18, 1884, Printed in the American Sentinel, a New York Roman Catholic journal in June 1893, p. 173.

“Tradition, not Scripture, is the rock on which the church of Jesus Christ is built.” Adrien Nampon, Catholic Doctrine as Defined by the Council of Trent, p. 157

“When St. Paul repudiated the works of the law, he was not thinking of the Ten Commandments, which are as unchangeable as God Himself is, which God could not change and still remain the infinitely holy God.”-Our Sunday Visitor, Oct. 7, I951.

“If we consulted the Bible only, we should still have to keep holy the Sabbath Day, that is, Saturday, with the Jews, instead of Sunday; …” – A Course in Religion for Catholic High Schools and Academies, by Rev. John Laux M.A., Benzinger Brothers, 1936 edition, Part 1.

“Sunday is a Catholic institution, and… can be defended only on Catholic principles… From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first.” Catholic Press, Aug. 25, 1900

“The Sabbath was Saturday, not Sunday. The Church altered the observance of the Sabbath to the observance of Sunday. Protestants must be rather puzzled by the keeping of Sunday when God distinctly said, ‘Keep holy the Sabbath Day.’ The word Sunday does not come anywhere in the Bible, so, without knowing it they are obeying the authority of the Catholic Church.” Canon Cafferata, The Catechism Explained, p. 89.