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dream wanderer:
I’m an ‘immersed’ Catholic. I was baptized in the Baptist Church.

I was a Fundamentalist Independant Baptist and they make the Southern baptists look like all night ravers. 😉

I tried hard to follow the rules but it was always a bit of a struggle. I’m glad I’m through with all that…

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Dream Wanderer:

What type of advise can you give to me … a Catholic … living with two fundamentalist Baptist?

Anything I can use … they think me and our two children are going to hell? :eek: :eek: Any help would be appreciated@

Moe
 
The first thing to do is to read your Bible a lot. Where they can see you.

Be ready to defend your faith at all times FROM THE BIBLE. There are good websites dedicated to just this.

Be ready to correct misrepresntations. Pull out the catechism only when a Catholic Belief is misrepresented.

Learn to ignore little digs at your faith but don’t dig back.

And that’s just the begining…

I’ll pray for you…

dream wanderer
 
I have been doing that great advise for the past 20 years! Thanks@ 🙂
 
I’m a new convert to the Catholic church. I was Southern Baptist and earlier in my life . . . Independent Baptist. I still work for the Baptist church as a secretary. So far, I haven’t shared with them about my conversion, because I really dread the conversations that I know will come afterwards.

Southern Baptists tend to be more liberal in their thinking. However, most still disapprove of the Catholic church. How vocal they are about it, seems to depend on their preacher. Independent Baptists are mostly fundamental and pretty much feel that all religions besides theirs are not saved (even Southern Baptists). They also are mostly the ones who only approve of the KJV.

The thing to remember with those type of people is 1 Corinthians 9:22 where it says “I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some.”

Get a KJV and highlight the verses that support your belief in the Eucharist, Purgatory, the authority of Peter as the head of the Church that Christ established.

I believe one of the biggest problems with Baptists is that they do NOT really know what Catholics believe. They have been told by anti-Catholics what Catholics believe which is not correct information. Plus the language a Catholic uses is a hinderance also. A Catholic may mention “praying to Mary”, which will ruffle the feathers of a fundamentalist. A better way to say it is, “I ask Mary to interceed for me”.

I believe that Baptists can be won over, but it is mostly through seeing the peace and love in the life of a Catholic friend or acquaintance.
 
So that we do not fall into the trap of confusing what someone believes with what we think they believe (where have we heard that) I have hear a link to the Baptist faith and Message. This is as close as you will come to finding a “creed” for Southern Baptist.

sbc.net/bfm/bfm2000.asp
 
My experiences with Baptists have not been that good. I found that the Baptists at my college are offended that I read the Bible regularly and I’m still a Catholic. I found that the ones on my campus think they know the Bible better then anyone else and are shocked to find that people might interpret Romans differently.
 
My Father is a former baptist, now catholic, thanks be to God!. I also have lots of baptist friends. They are good people who love Jesus. They just seem to have no clue what catholicism is about. They have all of these preconceived notions about the church, and they hear all of this from their pastors.

The only people I have ever heard Mary worship from are Baptists or fundamentalist. When I tell them this, they just cannot believe we are not told to worship Mary. I also find my friends read all kinds of books on catholicism written by anti-catholics. They will not read anything written by a catholic author. I donot understand. I love learning about other religions. I believe if you want to know what the baptist church teaches, then read something by a baptist, not a book about baptists written by a mormon. The same should apply to reading about catholicism. It burns me up that so many protestants*** think*** they know what catholicism is.
 
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JackPaul:
I was once Baptist, at least my parents still are. The thing that strikes me the most is their objection to any kind of government, their own or others. In my mind, that is their big objection to the CC, the magisteriam (sp?). They come up with a lot of other arguments, but it comes down to being ruled by an authority. After all, God is their authority and the CC is a man made institution. I have had many conversations with these folks and the one thing that they all have in common is, once they get wound up, they get loud and they talk a lot. You can’t get a word in edgewise… At least the ones I know. Anyone else notice this, or is it just me?
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Absolutely!! My husband is Baptist and it sounds like you’re describing him!!:yup:
He is one of the most logical men I know but when it comes to our “ways” or discussing our faith - forget it. He gets loud and badgers me into defending instead of dicussing. Although lately, I’ve had him speechless and even had him reading out of the Catechism!!
His big problem is with the Magesterim, too. That’s seems to be the clencher for most.
I thought I would be able to discuss my faith with him, talk about our differences and better understand those differences - but Noooooo… We have agreed to disagree and we no longer discuss anything. I leave books laying around hoping he will pick one up but (secretly) I think he’s afraid to - like he’ll be truned or something! :bigyikes:
Oh, yea, I also have his mother to deal with - she chimes in alot and often louder than her son! So, call it a double-whammie!

You’re not alone!

DianJo
 
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katiem:
My Father is a former baptist, now catholic, thanks be to God!. I also have lots of baptist friends. They are good people who love Jesus. They just seem to have no clue what catholicism is about. They have all of these preconceived notions about the church, and they hear all of this from their pastors.

The only people I have ever heard Mary worship from are Baptists or fundamentalist. When I tell them this, they just cannot believe we are not told to worship Mary. I also find my friends read all kinds of books on catholicism written by anti-catholics. They will not read anything written by a catholic author. I donot understand. I love learning about other religions. I believe if you want to know what the baptist church teaches, then read something by a baptist, not a book about baptists written by a mormon. The same should apply to reading about catholicism. It burns me up that so many protestants*** think*** they know what catholicism is.
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I totally agree, how can you learn about other faiths, just in THEIR eyes. You can’t. 👍
 
I live in central Mississippi, the heart of Baptist territory. I don’t recall off-hand where these statistics came from, but I think that I recall correctly that just over 80% of this state is some form of Baptist. Only just over 2% are Catholic. The numbers seem accurate enough to me.

In my experience, most seem to be closed-minded to exploring what might be a deviation from their own theological basis. They are quick to point out a scripture verse that shows their point, such as John 3:16 for sola fide (salvation by Faith Alone). When confronted with other scripture verses that might broaden their beliefs, such as James 2:26 on the necessity of doing charitable works, they will counter with another scripture verse that bolsters their position. You have probably heard of so-called Cafeteria Catholics who pick-and-choose what they want to believe. I think that Baptists (and other protestants) can do likewise.
 
My husband is a non practicing Southern Baptist and my in-laws are very much practicing Southern Baptists. According to my husband, he never heard anything at all, good or bad, about the Catholic Church in any of the churches he ever attended. My in-laws are wonderful Christians who seemed to have no problem w/ their son marrying a practicing Catholic in a Catholic Church, and they even attended our daughter’s (infant, of course) baptism. They seem to have no problem w/ her (and all future children) being raised Catholic. We discuss religion occasionally (we seem to have a lot in common, actually, faith and morals wise), and they’ve never tried to “save” me.

My only other contact w/ Baptists are on a Fundamentalist families bulletin board (which I no longer visit, for my own sanity). These 2 women are self described KJV only Independent Fundamentalist Baptists. They cannot stand the Catholic Church, and make no bones about the fact that Catholics who follow Catholic doctrine are not “saved.” Their biggest beefs seem to be infant baptism, the Eucharist (they insist that Jesus is not present in a “wafer”, and no amount of Church history on my part has convinced them that John chapter 6 should be taken literally), and the “works” we do to get to heaven (getting baptized, praying the rosary, and going to mass, apparently). Interesting, both of their husbands are former Catholics, and one of the women was raised Lutheran, converted to Catholicism in her teens to appease her boyfriend (now husband), but then “got saved” at age 25 (after learning how on a website) and became Baptist (and was rebaptized, of course, 'cause her first one in the Lutheran church as a baby was meaningless). These are two of the most thick-headed, anti-Catholic (they LOVE Chick tracts, and pass them out on halloween) people I have ever encountered. Interestingly, one of them has Catholic.com bookmarked, but still does not know what the Church really teaches, and refuses to believe our doctrines our biblical (even if disagreeing w/ our interpretation of the scripture). Oh, and another thing, they refuse to admit they are protestant, they insist Baptist were around “from the beginning”, and didn’t break off from the Catholic church.

What I find interesting, is that my husband told me that the criteria for finding a church was finding a pastor whose interpretation of the Bible you agreed with! If you got a new pastor w/ a different interpretation, or your pastor just got wacky, you go “church shopping.”

Ellen
 
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