Barabbas and the passover pardon

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Do remember that you’re talking to somebody for whom the whole thing is neither scripture nor reportage. In in other words, it is a ‘construct’
Yes, I do remember. I had thought to quote the rest of your post, which I omitted to do, but shall quote it now:
This isn’t something we’d agree about
Here, then, from Jewish writings, not the Christian writings, are other signs which happened 40 years before the destruction of the 2nd Temple which Christians believe would show that God is the author of history and that He stopped accepting the Day of Atonement sacrifices, plus showed other signs to show that the sacrifices were completed in Y’shua.

We read in the Jerusalem Talmud:

“Forty years before the destruction of the Temple, the western light went out, the crimson thread remained crimson, and the lot for the Lord always came up in the left hand. They would close the gates of the Temple by night and get up in the morning and find them wide open”
(Jacob Neusner, The Yerushalmi, p.156-157).

A similar passage in the Babylonian Talmud states:

“Our rabbis taught: During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple the lot [‘For the Lord’] did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-colored strap become white; nor did the western most light shine; and the doors of the Hekel [Temple] would open by themselves” (Soncino version, Yoma 39b).

Never had these things happened before. Why now? The crimson cord had always turned white, the lot for the Sacrificial Goat had always come up in the High Priest’s right hand. How would you interpret these signs? Just something that the Jewish people made up? For what purpose? The Jewish people, if I remember correctly from my reading, are known for reporting history without slants to bias their own story. What would be the ex machina here?
 
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How would you interpret these signs?
By going to a Jewish site to check up on the explanation (you can do that for yourself, try somewhere like ‘Outreach Judaism’).

We’re not going to play proof text games, it gets horribly predictable.
 
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Gorgias:
“son of [a] father” seems more appropriate for bar-abbas, no?
Depends on how ‘accidental’ you want it to be. 🙂
LOL!

I think it’s not at all accidental!

Rather, we have the people making an explicit choice between the Son of God and the son of a [human] father. They choose the latter and condemn the former. Pretty striking narrative!
Do remember that you’re talking to somebody for whom the whole thing is neither scripture nor reportage. In in other words
…in other words, we’re hearing your personal opinion. Fair enough. 👍
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Autumn-Smoke:
How would you interpret these signs?
By going to a Jewish site to check up on the explanation
Wait – @Autumn-Smoke literally gave you not only a quote, but the citation for the quote! Go check the primary source, if you doubt the veracity of the citation! 🤣
 
With all due respect for you and your religious views ( which I have great respect for). I’ve been reading your responses for a while now and I became a member of CAF to get the Catholic answers, not to hear from non believers why this is not true, I’ve herd all the reasons why it supposedly not true. of course everyone has right to their believe on their opinion, but its really not what I was asking or looking for. Please don’t take this the wrong way, it just frustrating when your trying to hear from other Catholics what they think, and their just a constant going back and forth.
 
it just frustrating when your trying to hear from other Catholics what they think, and their just a constant going back and forth.
Do what I do with posters I find boring/annoying etc and place me on ignore (it’s in user preferences), it makes the place much more pleasant.
 
Wait – @Autumn-Smoke literally gave you not only a quote, but the citation for the quote! Go check the primary source, if you doubt the veracity of the citation! 🤣
And I gave the place where I’d go for an explanation of the text involved. Sorry you missed that.
 
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