Beatification, Trinity

[AndyF]

From NewAdvent:

"The happiness of heaven is essentially unchangeable; still it admits of some accidental changes. Thus we may suppose that the blessed experience special joy when they receive greater veneration from men on earth. In particular, a certain growth in knowledge by experience is not excluded; for instance, as time goes on, new free actions of men may become known to the blessed, or* personal observation and experience may throw a new light on things already known**. And after the last judgment accidental beatitude will receive some increase from the union of soul and body, and from the sight of the new heaven and the earth".

*Can beatification for the elect possibly include further knowledge of what is known De Fide of the Mystery of the Trinity, such has a possible expansion of the doctrine of processions,etc?

Thanks

Andy

 

[Luke65]

Well, I’m not sure about your specific example, but yes, the Saints, and angels and demons, learn about God from the Catholic Church. As it is written:

“His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, according to his eternal purpose which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Ephesians 3:10)

God bless.

 

[AndyF]

Well, I’m not sure about your specific example, but yes, the Saints, and angels and demons, learn about God from the Catholic Church. As it is written:

“His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, according to his eternal purpose which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Ephesians 3:10)

God bless.

Thanks Luke65.

What I meant was does our gaining heaven admit to gaining further knowledge in this area?. Is extra light shed on the Trinity due to being a confirmed brother of Christ?.

“*But the scanty knowledge, that we can acquire on earth stands in no proportion to the capabilities of our soul. We shall possess truth in higher perfection hereafter.” *NewAdvent(heaven)

 

[Luke65]

Thanks Luke65.

What I meant was does our gaining heaven admit to gaining further knowledge in this area?. Is extra light shed on the Trinity due to being a confirmed brother of Christ?.

“*But the scanty knowledge, that we can acquire on earth stands in no proportion to the capabilities of our soul. We shall possess truth in higher perfection hereafter.” *NewAdvent(heaven)

I think it’s time you heard the story of St. Augustine on this topic…

One Father of the Church, St. Augustine, studied the mystery of the Holy Trinity and although he was at his wits’ end, he still could not comprehend it. One day he was walking on the sandy beach by the ocean. There churned in his mind the mystery of the Holy Trinity. He was talking to himself: “One God, but three Persons. Three Persons–not three Gods but one God. What does it mean? How can it be explained? How can my mind take it in?” And so he was torturing his mind and beating his brains out, when he saw a little boy on the beach. He approached him to see what he was doing.

The child had dug a small hole in the sand. With his little hands he was carrying water from the ocean and was dumping it in the little hole. St. Augustine asked, “What are you doing, my child?” The child replied, “I want to put all of the water of the ocean into this hole.” Once more St. Augustine asked, “But is it possible for all of the water of this great ocean to be contained in this little hole?” And the child asked him in return, “If the water of the ocean cannot be contained in this little hole, then how can the Infinite Trinitarian God be contained in your mind?” And the child disappeared. He was actually a little angel.

St. Augustine learned his lesson. He reverently thanked God, Who taught him in such a miraculous way that the mystery of the Holy Trinity cannot be comprehended with human reasoning. It is a matter of faith rather than of human reasoning.

gocanada.org/catechism/cathholy.htm



I’m not sure what we can know about the nature of the Holy Trinity, other than what has been dogmatically defined. I’m a confirmed Catholic who has done a great deal of study on the Faith, and I can’t even begin to comprehend what we know! And I’m not even sure we’ll be able to better understand the Trinity in Heaven! But if you’re interested in exploring this concept, then I guess I would recommend St. Augustine’s On the Trinity

 

[AndyF]

Good news. Found this excellent and best detailed explanation of Heaven I’ve seen yet.
In answer to my question, and from what I understand, it would appear earthly limited knowledge is completed in the elect has intuitive knowledge, to the degree the soul’s beatification will allow, and justified by his becoming one with the Light has a Son of God.

So clarification to a certain point is probable by virtue of attaining heaven.

catholicpamphlets.net/pamphlets/heaven.pdf

Thanks again for your help.

Andy

 

[Nita]

Good news. Found this excellent and best detailed explanation of Heaven I’ve seen yet.
In answer to my question, and from what I understand, it would appear earthly limited knowledge is completed in the elect has intuitive knowledge, to the degree the soul’s beatification will allow, and justified by his becoming one with the Light has a Son of God.

So clarification to a certain point is probable by virtue of attaining heaven.

catholicpamphlets.net/pamphlets/heaven.pdf

Thanks again for your help.

Andy

I’m not real clear on what your question is.
Are you asking whether the knowledge we have in heaven will be greater than the knowledge we had here on earth?
Or are you asking whether, after we are in heaven, our knowledge will continue to increase with our time there?

The link in your post wouldn’t work on my computer, so don’t know whether it contained the following Scripture. These passages have application if your question is whether our knowledge will be greater in heaven than it was here on earth.

1 Cor 13:12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood.

1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now; it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.

 

[AndyF]

I’m not real clear on what your question is.
Are you asking whether the knowledge we have in heaven will be greater than the knowledge we had here on earth?
Or are you asking whether, after we are in heaven, our knowledge will continue to increase with our time there?

The link in your post wouldn’t work on my computer, so don’t know whether it contained the following Scripture. These passages have application if your question is whether our knowledge will be greater in heaven than it was here on earth.

1 Cor 13:12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood.

1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now; it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.

My aopologies. It appears the problem is case sensitivity. This should work.

catholicpamphlets.net/pamphlets/HEAVEN.pdf

Andy