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BonnieBj
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What are the requirements and training to become an acolyte (the first of the Holy Orders, I believe)?
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deaconswife
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My husband was installed as an acolyte in his third year of studies for the diaconate. It was considered as part of the preparation along with being installed as a lector since he would eventually be serving at the altar and proclaiming the gospel as a deacon. As far as education he had classes in Old and New Testament, Foundational Theology, Ecclesiology, Church History, Christology, and there may be a class or two I might have forgotten.
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Genesis315
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Is an acolyte basically an adult altar boy (sorry if that sounds demeaning)? The reason i ask is at the Latin Mass i go to there’s an older gentleman who seems to me like he’s the “head altar boy” so to speak. Would he be an acolyte?
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Almeria
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I believe they have more responsibilities than an altar boy. The average parishioner though, would most likely see them in use as alter servers. They are the perferred servers, I believe.
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Br.Rich_SFO
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It used to be one of the Minor Orders. However it is now a “Ministry” that any male, (over twenty one?) can be installed into by the Bishop on a permanent basis.
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Catholic2003
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Br. Rich SFO:
The only bishop that I am aware of who installs acolytes that are not candidates for the diaconate or the priesthood is Bp. Bruskewitz of Lincoln, Nebraska.
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Br.Rich_SFO
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I do know that there are several that refuse to Ordain Deacons! But they can make that decision for their diocese.
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Brendan
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Br. Rich SFO:
So he Ordains seminarians right to the Presbyteriate ?
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Nota_Bene
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The Bishop of Cleveland also installs acolytes – as do others. I found a list on the web at one point.
Many sexist-feminists dislike this because with enough acolytes, there would never be a need for EMsHC, and only men can be acolytes.
As to the misundrstanding that acolytes are akin to altar boys, this would be confusing the Catholic faith with the Anglican-Protestant faith.
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Nota_Bene
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No, he’s likely the “head” altar server – who might also be the MC.
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Genesis315
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Nota Bene:
MC?
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rcn
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AKA “master of ceremonies”, which I think is a title held over from days of yore when concelebrated masses had priests in roles such as MC, deacon, subdeacon, and others.
I certainly don’t know how the “MC” role is implemented everywhere, but in our parish a young married man has this job (I think he’s an actual employee of the parish). He seems to lurk about at every single mass I’ve ever attended - he seems to have the role of “super altar-boy”, which is to say that when he serves mass, he always busies himself with the complicated tasks (e.g. assisting with incense when it’s used), often leaving the younger servers with nothing to do which I think is a shame. When not serving, he will come to the sanctuary with our other priests to help distribute communion - which might be a GIRM violation, since lay EMHC’s are supposed to stay out of the sanctuary until the priest’s communion, the sole exceptions being the servers who’ve been there for the full Mass.
I don’t think our “MC” is an acolyte, as I don’t think our diocese uses them. And whether that’s even relevant, I don’t know.
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Deacon_Tony560
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The Acolyte occupies a very important place in the list of those who can conduct a Sunday Celebration in The Absence of a Priest. (SCAP) If there is an acolyte in the parish and no deacon or religious available, the Instituted Acolyte is the next choice.
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Br.Rich_SFO
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YesSo he Ordains seminarians right to the Presbyteriate ?
I should have said “Permanent Deacons”
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Nota_Bene
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Deacon Tony560:
Oh, and said celebrations are not unique to Sunday, nor are they unique for Sunday.
And if there is no instituted acolyte, it falls to an EMHC. “Important place?” I think not.
Oh, and said celebrations are not unique to Sunday, nor are they unique for Sunday.
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Nota_Bene
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Nope.
An MC is quite common for larger Masses, or where a celebrant is not used to the setting – a visiting prist for example.
Watch a Mass from the National Basilica in Washington DC on EWTN. Fr. Andew Fisher, the diector of liturgy for the Basilica typically handles the role of MC. He’s the guy in a cassock and alb directing traffic with a very concerned look on his face.
An MC can be a priest, deacon or layperson depending on the situation…
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Deacon_Tony560
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Nota Bene:
All the lay people who are serving the Lord Jesus in any way that they can are in an important place. Those bringing the word and the Body and Blood of our savior are more important than any CEO.
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Nota_Bene
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Nota Bene:
Nope.
An MC is quite common for larger Masses, or where a celebrant is not used to the setting – a visiting prist for example.
Watch a Mass from the National Basilica in Washington DC on EWTN. Fr. Andew Fisher, the diector of liturgy for the Basilica typically handles the role of MC. He’s the guy in a cassock and surplice directing traffic with a very concerned look on his face.
An MC can be a priest, deacon or layperson depending on the situation…
This should have read:
Nope.
An MC is quite common for larger Masses, or where a celebrant is not used to the setting – a visiting prist for example.
Watch a Mass from the National Basilica in Washington DC on EWTN. Fr. Andew Fisher, the diector of liturgy for the Basilica typically handles the role of MC. He’s the guy in a cassock and surplice directing traffic with a very concerned look on his face.
An MC can be a priest, deacon or layperson depending on the situation…
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Nota_Bene
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Deacon Tony560:
“The Acolyte occupies a very important place in the list of those who can conduct a Sunday Celebration in The Absence of a Priest. (SCAP) If there is an acolyte in the parish and no deacon or religious available, the Instituted Acolyte is the next choice.”
The acolyte’s place is no more imporant than anyone elses. And your CEO comparison is a non-starter.
Also, did you just make-up the “SCAP” stuff? Sounds like a local “ltirgy committee” document.
You’re spinning now… Look at your original post:
“The Acolyte occupies a very important place in the list of those who can conduct a Sunday Celebration in The Absence of a Priest. (SCAP) If there is an acolyte in the parish and no deacon or religious available, the Instituted Acolyte is the next choice.”
The acolyte’s place is no more imporant than anyone elses. And your CEO comparison is a non-starter.
Also, did you just make-up the “SCAP” stuff? Sounds like a local “ltirgy committee” document.
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Nota_Bene
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Deacon Tony560:
“The Acolyte occupies a very important place in the list of those who can conduct a Sunday Celebration in The Absence of a Priest. (SCAP) If there is an acolyte in the parish and no deacon or religious available, the Instituted Acolyte is the next choice.”
The acolyte’s place is no more imporant than anyone elses. And your CEO comparison is a non-starter. Nothing but fluff.
Also, did you just make-up the “SCAP” stuff? Sounds like a local “litirgy committee” document.
You’re spinning now… Look at your original post:
“The Acolyte occupies a very important place in the list of those who can conduct a Sunday Celebration in The Absence of a Priest. (SCAP) If there is an acolyte in the parish and no deacon or religious available, the Instituted Acolyte is the next choice.”
The acolyte’s place is no more imporant than anyone elses. And your CEO comparison is a non-starter. Nothing but fluff.
Also, did you just make-up the “SCAP” stuff? Sounds like a local “litirgy committee” document.
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