Bede Griffith and the divine feminine

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openmind77 said:
Sorry, did not mean to be uncharitable, although I am not quite sure what is wrong with giving some advice about preparing yourself
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The Christ that you are expecting is the Christian antichrist or Maitreya who will slaughter millions of Christians for refusing to follow him. YOU need to be prepared to see the deception for what it is.

Those who refuse to take the luciferic initiation into the new age order will be selected for destruction. According to new ager Benjamin Creme the “men of the Cloth”(priests) will have insight into who Maitreya actually is and will be persecuted. Though according to Creme they just need “re educating” lol
 
cjforJesus said:
The Christ that you are expecting is the Christian antichrist or Maitreya who will slaughter millions of Christians for refusing to follow him. YOU need to be prepared to see the deception for what it is.
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Sounds rather uncharitable to me.

However, I think I am talking about the same Christ everyone is expecting to return - I think there is only One.
 
openmind77 said:
Sounds rather uncharitable to me.

However, I think I am talking about the same Christ everyone is expecting to return - I think there is only One.
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,Read my previous post. Jesus is the only Christ and He will return just as He left,with a host of angels for all to see.The whole world will know He is God. Many will hide themselves in caves from the wrath of God
 
Just to focus things a bit

Father Bede was a Benedictine Monk who later found a home with the Camaldolese Benedictines

Thomas Merton was obviously one of the great spritiual writers of the 20th century and was a Trappist-suggest one read “New seeds of Contemplation”
 
cmodrmac said:
Just to focus things a bit

Father Bede was a Benedictine Monk who later found a home with the Camaldolese Benedictines

Thomas Merton was obviously one of the great spritiual writers of the 20th century and was a Trappist-suggest one read “New seeds of Contemplation”
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I humbly suggest Christians avoid Fr Bedes writings and concentrate more on scripture and the Catechism. Same goes for Fr Merton who actually said Catholics were ridiculous because they are not zen enough! This was in an interview just before he died.He also openly claimed he wished to be the best Buddhist he could be so it is obvious he was ready to leave the Church soon,Just as the Dalai Lama said the two paths reach a point where they are not compatible and one must make a choice.
 
cmodrmac said:
Just to focus things a bit

Father Bede was a Benedictine Monk who later found a home with the Camaldolese Benedictines

Thomas Merton was obviously one of the great spritiual writers of the 20th century and was a Trappist-suggest one read “New seeds of Contemplation”
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As to Griffiths, that might be focused to such a fine point the larger picture is outside the frame:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bede_Griffiths
 
GKC said:
As to Griffiths, that might be focused to such a fine point the larger picture is outside the frame:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bede_Griffiths
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Hey GK,weren’t you on the Shroud of Turin discussion?

I suppose at times when ones focus becomes so fine and narrow one looses their faith and adopts another. Griffiths taught in direct defiance of Catholic teaching yet was never reprimanded at all. He actually became Hindu at the end of his life. He was also interested in Theosophy which teaches that Jesus was just an “ascended master” who like Buddha achieved “enlightenment” .Sorry,guys,none of this is Catholic or even any form of Christianity.

I suggest you find other more suitable literature because as Mary has told many visionaries, heretical writings will abound toward the end times and many, even priests and bishops and cardinals will be lead astray.
 
cjforJesus said:
I humbly suggest Christians avoid Fr Bedes writings and concentrate more on scripture and the Catechism. Same goes for Fr Merton who actually said Catholics were ridiculous because they are not zen enough! This was in an interview just before he died.He also openly claimed he wished to be the best Buddhist he could be so it is obvious he was ready to leave the Church soon,Just as the Dalai Lama said the two paths reach a point where they are not compatible and one must make a choice.
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Let us speak well of the dead: Both these priests died in good standing with the Church. Let God be their judge.
 
Michael_Mayo said:
Let us speak well of the dead: Both these priests died in good standing with the Church. Let God be their judge.
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It is not the people that we condemn but rather their outlandish views which should not be propogated to faithful Christians.
 
cjforJesus said:
Hey GK,weren’t you on the Shroud of Turin discussion?

I suppose at times when ones focus becomes so fine and narrow one looses their faith and adopts another. Griffiths taught in direct defiance of Catholic teaching yet was never reprimanded at all. He actually became Hindu at the end of his life. He was also interested in Theosophy which teaches that Jesus was just an “ascended master” who like Buddha achieved “enlightenment” .Sorry,guys,none of this is Catholic or even any form of Christianity.

I suggest you find other more suitable literature because as Mary has told many visionaries, heretical writings will abound toward the end times and many, even priests and bishops and cardinals will be lead astray.
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I was in the Shroud thread, yes.
 
Michael_Mayo said:
Let us speak well of the dead: Both these priests died in good standing with the Church. Let God be their judge.
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Michael,both of these men promoted heretical ideologies brought about by some purported mystical experience of being in a void, Fr Merton even went so far as to brag about the evil that he experienced there! I do not know where he went but I don’t think it was the third heaven,

Both of them though wrote many books which is usually seen as something good because the gift of writing is revered though any human talent, as St Thomas Aquinas said. can be used for good or evil/
 
cjforJesus said:
Michael,both of these men promoted heretical ideologies brought about by some purported mystical experience of being in a void, Fr Merton even went so far as to brag about the evil that he experienced there! I do not know where he went but I don’t think it was the third heaven,

Both of them though wrote many books which is usually seen as something good because the gift of writing is revered though any human talent, as St Thomas Aquinas said. can be used for good or evil/
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And that is why we have ecclesial authorities. Are you one of them, to make these judgements on the subtleties of their mystical theology? If they do not appeal to you don’t read them. Neither of these priests have even been warned for their writings, as far as I know.
 
openmind77 said:
The Church has never quite understood the role the Holy Spirit plays in creation. It is true that spirit does not have gender - male or female. However, when the Holy Spirit enters matter, it becomes the Mother - mother earth, mother nature, the Goddess.
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No, the Holy Spirit does not become “creation”. The Holy Spirit is the Lord, and Giver of life and eternally above the natural world. The spirit you envision is not the Holy Spirit of Christianity.
openmind77 said:
The Church has not recognized that yet (it thinks the Holy Spirit spends its time helping people write books or correct doctrine, but actually its main function is giving birth to and nurturing creation).

All this will be cleared up when the Christ returns and explains it to us.
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It just so happens that the Holy Spirit descended upon the Apostles and guides our Church today - a promise of Christ. What he explained, what he promised was that the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth. So I think we may know a little more about the Holy Spirit than you realize, my friend. He is part of everything the Church does.
 
SteveVH said:
I think the Church leans heavily in the direction of 1ke’s position. 😉
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It has not stated so with these two men religious.

I just hate to see the names of the faithful dead dragged through the mud by those unauthorized to do so.
 
SteveVH said:
I think the Church leans heavily in the direction of 1ke’s position. 😉
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It is my understanding that both Fr Griffith and Fr Merton were deeply influenced by occult writers such as Blake Huxley and Jung.Thats enough for me to not even question my intuition about their writings capability to lead people away from the Church and into some obscure mystical abyss,something the Church warns about when considering integrating non Christian forms of prayer into your life.

I am not saying either man was bad but just mislead. The Church does not excommunicate or laicize unless there are extreme cases of heresy. There are still bishops who have been involved with sexual scandal and are still on good standing.
 
Michael_Mayo said:
It has not stated so with these two men religious.

I just hate to see the names of the faithful dead dragged through the mud by those unauthorized to do so.
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Well, we can all read their words and draw conclusions. I don’t think that is dragging the faithful dead through the mud. What he espouses is not Catholic Christianity that I have ever seen and if people think it is they should be warned against it.
 
cjforJesus said:
It is my understanding that both Fr Griffith and Fr Merton were deeply influenced by occult writers such as Blake Huxley and Jung.Thats enough for me to not even question my intuition about their writings capability to lead people away from the Church and into some obscure mystical abyss,something the Church warns about when considering integrating non Christian forms of prayer into your life.
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Fr. Merton’s “Seven Story Mountain” was a life changing book for me and I was heart broken to see the direction in which he decided go. 😦
 
The CDF issued concerns about the writings of Fr.Anthony deMello after his death. Not so with Fr Bede or Merton.
 
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