Beginning Traditional Catholicism

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Exactly! Love is what differs true Faith from an hobby/intellectual project. The Bible and the Saints are very clear on this one…

Reading is good though. I would highly recommend Francis de Sales “Introduction to the Devout life”. Encyclicals are here for the benefit of our souls of course, but I think it is better to start by learning how to grow in virtue first…

It is also important to know that this is not the first crisis in the Church. It is not like everything was good up until the 60s and that everything after is ****. I personally love the luminous mysteries and I sometimes pray to JPII for example…
Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I hope to put them into work soon.

I have a nice copy of Introduction to the Devout Life sitting on my shelf waiting to be read!

Does anyone recommend a certain version of the Douay-Rheims Bible? Or a certain version of the 1962 Missal?

Blessings!
 
Hello all,

I am looking for some help for ways that I can be very traditional in my Catholicism while not being able to make it to an Extraordinary Form Mass. I want to know some prayers, spiritual exercises, books, &c., that can increase my devotion to God while increasing my traditionalism.

I know it would start with like pray the rosary only 15 decades not 20. Or, pray it in Latin. I love the Latin language and I am pretty good with it so that would be no real problem.

Any suggestions or ways that I can be more traditional would be appreciated.

How about are there any EF Parishes that do video broadcasts of the mass online?

Blessings!

Landon
I know you allude to not being able to attend the EF but here is a site that list by state where the EF is celebrated…

web2.airmail.net/carlsch/EFMass/churches.htm

Also you may be interested in this podcast…

theonetruefaith.tv/index.php?nav=03&content=20

Prayers for you on your journey!
 
Hello all,

I am looking for some help for ways that I can be very traditional in my Catholicism while not being able to make it to an Extraordinary Form Mass. I want to know some prayers, spiritual exercises, books, &c., that can increase my devotion to God while increasing my traditionalism.

I know it would start with like pray the rosary only 15 decades not 20. Or, pray it in Latin. I love the Latin language and I am pretty good with it so that would be no real problem.

Any suggestions or ways that I can be more traditional would be appreciated.

How about are there any EF Parishes that do video broadcasts of the mass online?

Blessings!

Landon
My personal favorite saints to read are St John of the Cross and Mother Teresa. Both will challenge you to conversion. Mother Teresa especially, drives home the message that being a faithful Catholic demands sacrificial love for others.

Adoration is a very spiritually profitable practice for me. Silence is hard to find.

And also the Divine Mercy chaplet and diary of St Faustina. St Faustina is an excellent model of traditional devotion, obedience, and faithfulness in the midst of physical, emotional, and spiritual suffering.
And the lives, spirituality, and disciplines of our religious brothers and sisters are good to emulate. Many of them have centuries old traditions in place. Lives of prayer, poverty, humility, service to the poor.
 
Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I hope to put them into work soon.

I have a nice copy of Introduction to the Devout Life sitting on my shelf waiting to be read!

Does anyone recommend a certain version of the Douay-Rheims Bible? Or a certain version of the 1962 Missal?

Blessings!
TAN used to print a good hardback version (I have one) that is available on Ebay for a reasonable price.

Angelus and Baronius Press (I have this one as well) both offer the best printings of the DR, as well as the best 1962 missals, with the Angelus being the one I prefer (I have both) because it has a very helpful commentary on the side columns.
 
TAN used to print a good hardback version (I have one) that is available on Ebay for a reasonable price.

Angelus and Baronius Press (I have this one as well) both offer the best printings of the DR, as well as the best 1962 missals, with the Angelus being the one I prefer (I have both) because it has a very helpful commentary on the side columns.
I just put a bid on a pre-change daily missal on eBay for like 6 dollars. It is pretty much like new. It is St. Joseph press from the 50s. I am saving up for the Baronius Press Douay Rheims, though.
 
I just put a bid on a pre-change daily missal on eBay for like 6 dollars. It is pretty much like new. It is St. Joseph press from the 50s. I am saving up for the Baronius Press Douay Rheims, though.
That’ll do. Just keep in mind that the readings and the Propers of the mass will not have the Latin. In time, you may wish to get one that has all the Latin. The Baronius is beautiful and you’ll be pleased.
 
That’ll do. Just keep in mind that the readings and the Propers of the mass will not have the Latin. In time, you may wish to get one that has all the Latin. The Baronius is beautiful and you’ll be pleased.
I have the Baronius and think it’s the best one.

As for being traditional, obey the Pope. The Vatican website has a lot of their writings available online.

vatican.va/holy_father/index.htm
 
If you want to really be traditional in reciting the Divine Office, pick up a Monastic Diurnal (or if you can find one, a Monastic Breviary which also includes Matins. I have one that I received as a gift from the abbey I’m associated with, otherwise they’re devilishly hard to find).

It dates back 1500 years except for the addition of saints since then; St Benedict spelled out the psalm order in his famous Rule.

But it’s pretty heavy lifting for busy folks. Instead I pray the current LOTH and I chant Lauds and Vespers (and sometimes mid-day and compline) in Latin Gregorian chant. Chanting Lauds and Vespers in Latin, and pausing after each psalm to read it through silently in French (my mother tongue), takes me about 20 minutes at 7 am and 6:30 pm respectively.

The Latin and chant are my connections with tradition as far as liturgy goes (not to mention some traditions within the LOTH itself that have been preserved).
 
Thanks so much for your tips. I think at my current state of life I’m in no place to be doing a ton of time praying all of the hours of the LOTH. I may buy the four volume LOTH later on in life but not now. Now I’m at the point of doing Christian Prayer for Morning, Evening, and Night (lauds, vespers, and compline) and getting in a rosary and chaplet of divine mercy in between!

I am getting a 1962 Daily Missal from Angelus Press as a gift from a very kind friend here on CAF. I can’t wait!

Blessings!
 
Thanks so much for your tips. I think at my current state of life I’m in no place to be doing a ton of time praying all of the hours of the LOTH. I may buy the four volume LOTH later on in life but not now. Now I’m at the point of doing Christian Prayer for Morning, Evening, and Night (lauds, vespers, and compline) and getting in a rosary and chaplet of divine mercy in between!

**I am getting a 1962 Daily Missal from Angelus Press as a gift from a very kind friend here on CAF. I can’t wait! **

Blessings!
That’s the best one out there imo.
 
The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter has a website dedicated to this: livemass.net

Schedule for Live broadcasts as of June 5 (times are Eastern):

Sunday:
8:30 am - Low Mass from Florida
10:30 am - High Mass from Florida
1:00 pm - High Mass from Mexico
8:00 pm - Low Mass from Mexico

Monday, Wednesday, Thursday & Saturday
9:00 am - Florida
8:00 pm - Mexico

Tuesday:
9:00 am - Florida
6:30 pm - Florida

Friday:
9:00 am - Florida
6:30 pm - Florida
8:00 pm - Mexico

A noon broadcast, Mon - Sat from Mexico will be added in the near future.

A Google Group and mailing list exists (link).

I would also consider finding out more and possibly joining the Confraternitas Sancti Petri.

Personally, I have done all of the above, and I always pray in Latin the Rosary and in general all major prayers. I try to pray the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin (though I haven’t switched to the Latin one yet - provided by FSSP) and in the Compline I recite the Confiteor in Latin.

The Holy Hour is definitely a practice worth incorporating to your prayer life.

About Mass:

I personally always receive Communion kneeling, on the tongue. This is fully allowed and still the official way to receive Communion in the Church (as per the Instruction Memoriale Domini on the Manner of Distributing Holy Communion) although in the US it is allowed to receive Communion in the hand by a special dispensation requested to and granted by the Holy See. Other little nuisances I keep in mind: genuflection when Blessed Sacrament is exposed, kneeling when passing in front of the tabernacle, slow sign of the cross, bow of head every time the name of Jesus is mentioned, not holding but rather folding hands during Pater Noster.

Also, it used to be the case that at least the Minor Orders were required to touch the Sacred Vessels. This is why, serving in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, we wear gloves when preparing for the Mass. Because of this, I refrain from receiving Communion from the Chalice. This practice is quite new, for Communion under both species was not a characteristic of the tradition of the Latin church, and in the Eastern rites is done exclusively by intinction.

I have found it beneficial sometimes to participate in the Mass of Eastern Catholic rites to experience the delightful diversity of the traditional liturgy. The Byzantine rite is an experience worth living - just make sure the Church is actually an Eastern Catholic in full communion with Rome - ex, Melkite.

Ah…and keep away from ultra-traditionalist groups, websites, etc. They are no good. We must always pray for our Holy Father and recall the words of the great Jerome:
Thanks for the Mass times 👍

Pax:)
 
My personal favorite saints to read are St John of the Cross and Mother Teresa. Both will challenge you to conversion. Mother Teresa especially, drives home the message that being a faithful Catholic demands sacrificial love for others.

Adoration is a very spiritually profitable practice for me. Silence is hard to find.

And also the Divine Mercy chaplet and diary of St Faustina. St Faustina is an excellent model of traditional devotion, obedience, and faithfulness in the midst of physical, emotional, and spiritual suffering.
And the lives, spirituality, and disciplines of our religious brothers and sisters are good to emulate. Many of them have centuries old traditions in place. Lives of prayer, poverty, humility, service to the poor.
Good advice - especially Eucharistic Adoration! And let’s not forget the practice of Lectio Divina which quite literally changed my prayer life.
 
Right. I’ve seen some proudly proclaim that they never read anything published after 1963. I have also seen some proudly proclaim that they never read anything published before 1963.

Such litmus tests are unnecessary. Read it all. 🙂
There is quite a bit of heterodox stuff floating around out there, and much of it is new-age masqueraded as Catholic spirituality.

Anything prior to mid-20th century is probably ok.
With this being said, there are many good traditional-minded modern authors from good publishing houses (e.g. Ignatius press).

Fr. Z suggests some good reading material on his blog as well. 🙂

It’s too bad the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur no longer hold the weight they once did (I’ve see these on many heterodox books), or are even required anymore on Catholic books.
 
There is quite a bit of heterodox stuff floating around out there, and much of it is new-age masqueraded as Catholic spirituality.

Anything prior to mid-20th century is probably ok.
With this being said, there are many good traditional-minded modern authors from good publishing houses (e.g. Ignatius press).

Fr. Z suggests some good reading material on his blog as well. 🙂

It’s too bad the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur no longer hold the weight they once did (I’ve see these on many heterodox books), or are even required anymore on Catholic books.
Sure. There’s lots of goofy stuff. I don’t mean the OP should read that. I’m speaking more in terms of Church documents.
 
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