Behold Your Mother Dilemma

[Benadam]

For of Adam it is said that God ‘formed’ him, but it is not said of Eve that she was formed; but that she was ‘built.’ So we read that God took one of Adam’s ribs and ‘built’ it into a woman for him, to show us that when, for Himself, the Lord had ‘formed’ again a body from Mary, thus the Church was built from a rib from Mary.”

Thanks for posting this. It made me imagine God forming Adam from earth a pristine earth spotless incorrupt, holy ground. . That brought to mind Mary being the earth that God formed the New Adam from. Mary not just the earth but Mary as a type of New Earth Like in the New Heaven and New Earth . Mary intimately woven into the Hypostatic Union… Mary sanctifying the Mother earth concepts anyway thought I’d thank and share:slightly_smiling_face:.

 

[AmbroseSJ]

If you want to query your concerns you can address me. I do not deny that Mary is the Mother of the Church; I simply state that there is no evidence to substantiate the claim that one must have a personal relationship with her to have a share in the Kingdom.

I don’t think there ever was or that it was ever taught anywhere. Where are you getting this? It sounds like some weird conflation of Catholicism with Evangelicalism.

 

[Gorgias]

there is no evidence to substantiate the claim that one must have a personal relationship with her to have a share in the Kingdom.

Ahh… now that’s a very different question than the one you asked in your first post!

But… I just have to ask: who in the world is making such a claim? And, given the way you phrased it, who is making that claim doctrinally?!?

 

[James817]

You can read De Maria’s responses to me for instance.

 

[Gorgias]

You can read De Maria’s responses to me for instance.

Yeah, but that’s just one guy’s opinion, not a doctrinal statement of the Church.

In any case, Revelation is in the genre of apocalyptic. It has symbols that cry out for interpretation – and these symbols are multivalent! For instance, the woman is seen alternately as ‘Mary’ and ‘the Church’. So, one could look at Rev 12:17 and conclude that “her children” are the members of the Church, rather than (necessarily) “children of Mary.”

 

[guanophore]

symbols are multivalent

I have also read an interpretation that the Woman is the nation of Israel.