Being called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF

[HenryV]

I prefer the EF but attend the OF on weekdays when there is no EF available.
I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me. All I want to do is adore the Eucharistic Lord Why are some Catholics so uncharitable?

 

[Dempsey1919]

Ignore them. Just attend Mass and adore the Lord in the Holy Eucharist. If you prefer the Tridentine Mass then that is your business and no one else’s.

I never attend the Novus Ordo but I do respect it. It wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if some Catholics called me a fundamentalist. All I care about is what Jesus thinks…he’s the one who has called me to the Tridentine Mass and it was his Holy Spirit who inspired the Pope to issue Summorum Pontificum.

All that matters is your relationship with Jesus. Everything else is trivial.

 

[HenryV]

Thanks Dempsey.

I love your signature.

“Quia respexit humilitatem ancillae suae”

 

[Servulus]

I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me.

MT (5,11-12) “Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you.”

 

[childofmary1143]

I prefer the EF but attend the OF on weekdays when there is no EF available.
I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me. All I want to do is adore the Eucharistic Lord Why are some Catholics so uncharitable?

To quote Dr. Laura, you could say to them, “Shame on you for betraying your faith!!”

 

[johnknoesel]

Being a recent convert to the Catholic faith. October 1998.
I have only known the New Order, however recently my wife and I have attended the Tridentine and found it to be the most reverent I have experienced. I do not understand why there is all of this hoopla regarding the Old Rite. The pope did not make it mandatory he just emphasized that those who want it should be allowed to have it without being told no by the bishop. In the past few months I have found so many Catholics who are in an uproar about this and I look at them and where are you getting your information. The answer the main stream media. I then direct them to documents regarding this and they are shocked to find that nothing has changed they will not be forced to go back to the Latin Rite and they seem to understand after that. Perception is everything.

 

[BobP123]

I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me.

Sticks and stones…

 

[Dempsey1919]

The type of Mass you attend is really unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Do you really think Jesus cares about this?

The most important thing is to know, love and serve Jesus in whatever capacity he has in mind for you.

I believe that the Holy Spirit has decided to reinstate the Old Mass. He has guided me to this Mass and it appears that many others are also called.

 

[puzzleannie]

I prefer the EF but attend the OF on weekdays when there is no EF available.
I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me. All I want to do is adore the Eucharistic Lord Why are some Catholics so uncharitable?

by whom? okay so there are ignorant people anywhere whose own spiritual life is so impoverished they have to attack the spirituality of others. one, why to you associate with them, and two why do you listen to them, and 3, why do you let them bother you any more than a gnat buzzing around?
same category, IMO as discussions of “they make me feel weird when I wear a veil” who cares what they think. I hardly think you reached your decision based on their opinion, but on your own needs and convictions, so blow them off.

 

[Malcolm_McLean]

I prefer the EF but attend the OF on weekdays when there is no EF available.
I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me. All I want to do is adore the Eucharistic Lord Why are some Catholics so uncharitable?

Fundamentalism is a Protestant movement that claims that the Bible is literally true - with varying degrees of sophisticaion - and that fairly rigorous morals are necessary.

Traditional Catholics will have a certain amount of sympathy with their motivations. They are also reacting to the degenerate practises of modernity. However evolution is a genuine scientific theory. There is no simple way of dismissing it, even though the negative aspects of Darwinist thinking are very obvious. Similarly a lot of the moral views that fundamentalists regard as self-evident, or longstanding Christian traditions, do not in fact go back very far. The temperance movement was basically Victorian, for instance. The idea that the average man should own property goes back only to the eighteenth century. Drugs were not illegal until the First World War.

What your friends probably really mean is “fantaticism” or “rigorous morality”. That might be true, and it might be well-directed or badly directed.

 

[TMC]

I have been known to spar with so-called traditionalists on a variety of topics, but they certainly aren’t fundamentalists. I have bumped into a few folks that I would call fundamentalist Catholics, but really that term is an oxymoron. I am with Dempsey1919, I don’t think Jesus cares much which liturgy we use. If you have a preference for any approved liturgy, feel free to favor that one.

 

[homewardbound]

I’m sorry that other Catholics can be so uncharitable. It is sad.

I don’t know Latin at all, but I still prefer the EF. I don’t know why. There’s just something more to it it seems.

I’d be trouble if I didn’t like the EF though, my boyfriend adores it.

 

[HenryV]

Fundamentalism is a Protestant movement that claims that the Bible is literally true - with varying degrees of sophisticaion - and that fairly rigorous morals are necessary.

Traditional Catholics will have a certain amount of sympathy with their motivations. They are also reacting to the degenerate practises of modernity. However evolution is a genuine scientific theory. There is no simple way of dismissing it, even though the negative aspects of Darwinist thinking are very obvious. Similarly a lot of the moral views that fundamentalists regard as self-evident, or longstanding Christian traditions, do not in fact go back very far. The temperance movement was basically Victorian, for instance. The idea that the average man should own property goes back only to the eighteenth century. Drugs were not illegal until the First World War.

What your friends probably really mean is “fantaticism” or “rigorous morality”. That might be true, and it might be well-directed or badly directed.

Thanks so much. Well, I hope it’s badly directed.

 

[tcraig]

I prefer the EF but attend the OF on weekdays when there is no EF available.
I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me. All I want to do is adore the Eucharistic Lord Why are some Catholics so uncharitable?

Well, make sure that you are nothing but charitable in your own behavior.

I used to attend a TLM parish. And while I loved it, there were some Catholics there that I thought of as “fundamentalist Catholics”. (Never called them that to their face, though, good manners are important! LOL)

These were the Catholics that walked as if they had a poker shoved up their rear, and always had a look of disgust when speaking of “NO Catholics”. They had rigid rules regarding dress and women’s roles, and didn’t hesitate to share them. (If you’ve never attended a parish where a self-appointed “Marylike Modesty” squared decided to “correct” all the improperly dressed women, then you’re lucky.)

When they were “forced” to attend the NO, many of them abused the NO rubrics because they weren’t “traditional” enough - doing things like kneeling during the Sign of Peace in order to avoid shaking hands with anyone, reading the TLM missal instead of the NO one, etc.

Their whole demeanor towards the NO and “NO Catholics” was one of disdain.

From your post, it doesn’t appear as if you are like that - but lack of charity can certainly go both ways, so make sure that you never give the impression that you consider the NO and the Catholics that attend it* as a matter of preference* inferior.

 

[HenryV]

Well, make sure that you are nothing but charitable in your own behavior.

I used to attend a TLM parish. And while I loved it, there were some Catholics there that I thought of as “fundamentalist Catholics”. (Never called them that to their face, though, good manners are important! LOL)

These were the Catholics that walked as if they had a poker shoved up their rear, and always had a look of disgust when speaking of “NO Catholics”. They had rigid rules regarding dress and women’s roles, and didn’t hesitate to share them. (If you’ve never attended a parish where a self-appointed “Marylike Modesty” squared decided to “correct” all the improperly dressed women, then you’re lucky.)

When they were “forced” to attend the NO, many of them abused the NO rubrics because they weren’t “traditional” enough - doing things like kneeling during the Sign of Peace in order to avoid shaking hands with anyone, reading the TLM missal instead of the NO one, etc.

Their whole demeanor towards the NO and “NO Catholics” was one of disdain.

From your post, it doesn’t appear as if you are like that - but lack of charity can certainly go both ways, so make sure that you never give the impression that you consider the NO and the Catholics that attend it* as a matter of preference* inferior.

I attend the EF and the OF because it’s the mass, I’m not dressed up like in the 50’s or something, we live 2007. Lack of charity is as common among NO folks as among TLMers in my opinion, there are alway ppl who want to tell others off.

 

[m134e5]

I prefer the EF but attend the OF on weekdays when there is no EF available.
I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me. All I want to do is adore the Eucharistic Lord Why are some Catholics so uncharitable?

There are more than enough traditionalists who are uncharitable in discussions of the Faith, and seem to thumb their noses at everyone who doesn’t think the same way they do that they give the traditional movement a bad reputation.

 

[Melanie01]

I prefer the EF but attend the OF on weekdays when there is no EF available.
I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me. All I want to do is adore the Eucharistic Lord Why are some Catholics so uncharitable?

…I would be proud to be called such…because you love the Lord…yes sir I love the Lord ?more than you?

 

[stmaria]

I prefer the EF but attend the OF on weekdays when there is no EF available.
I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me. All I want to do is adore the Eucharistic Lord Why are some Catholics so uncharitable?

Live by this belief and you can never go wrong.

DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION
ON DIVINE REVELATION
vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19651118_dei-verbum_en.html

1. And so the apostolic preaching, which is expressed in a special way in the inspired books, was to be preserved by an unending succession of preachers until the end of time. **Therefore the Apostles, handing on what they themselves had received, warn the faithful to hold fast to the traditions which they have learned either by word of mouth or by letter (see 2 Thess. 2:15), and to fight in defense of the faith handed on once and for all **(see Jude 1:3) (4) Now what was handed on by the Apostles includes everything which contributes toward the holiness of life and increase in faith of the peoples of God; and so the Church, in her teaching, life and worship, perpetuates and hands on to all generations all that she herself is, all that she believes.
   This tradition which comes from the Apostles develop in the Church with the help of the Holy Spirit."

 

[palmas85]

I prefer the EF but attend the OF on weekdays when there is no EF available.
I’ve been called a fundamentalist for prefering the EF, it’s starting to take a toll on me. All I want to do is adore the Eucharistic Lord Why are some Catholics so uncharitable?

The truth is that many progressive Catholics hate Traditional Catholicism and think that the Church was born after Vatican II. They see it as having been exclusivistic, hate filled and uncharitable to other faiths. They see it has being a relic that needed to be consigned to the dustbin long ago. It doesn’t fit with modern theology and beliefs… They want nothing to do with it. Since the most obvious example of Traditional Catholicism is the Traditional Mass, they hate it even more. They hate it and want it gone. Out the door, never to be seen or heard from again. You can read their posts here. The thinly veiled attacks, the contempt covered with a slight layer of civility and charity that they think fools people. The snide comments about the Traditional Mass only being a fringe Mass that is dying out etc etc. The Motu Proprio sticks in their craws and there is nothing they can do about it except to lash out at those who attend the Traditional Mass.

Don’t worry. If my only two choices in life were to be called a Fundamentalist Catholic or a Progressive thinking Catholic, you can bet your sweet ### I’ll pick the fundamentalist title every day of the week. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a fundamentalist Catholic my friend.