Kissing the Quran is not the kind of unity that I am selling. Muslims need the historic Biblical Jesus Christ and not the Jesus found in the Quran.What can I say. It was promulgated by a pope who kissed the koran. As much as I respect him…I don’t understand why he did that??? I don’t consider myself to be a pig or a dog. What can I say?
Absolutely…we are in complete agreement! That’s why I don’t understand why a pope would kiss a book inspired by a false angel. It bothers me. The jesus found in the koran is not the Jesus of the Bible. It’s a pretend jesus that only Satan could take pride in. Who has the most to gain by the denial of Jesus as the great I Am? Certainly not an angel of God. They have been mislead by a dark angel.
We have gone full circle back to the OP. Your statement is why I believe that we are Christians first and foremost, and Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox a distant second.
silly goose, of course you are not my enemy in Christ! it’s just that i don’t understand how anyone could claim to be a Christian, but then go against Christ’s words and the teachings that have been handed down for 2000 yrs. surely you have read the writings of the early Church fathers? the truth is most people haven’t. i still have much to read myself.
), but i have been pretty sick and am now on meds that are making me more goofy than usual. when i get over this, i will try to read though all the comments and see if i can be of any help.One in Christ, you are a difficult one aren’t you?
It was considered a heresy by the Early Church.
There is no separation between the two. When one is fully united to Christ, it is because one has fully embraced the Truth (orthodoxy). All who depart from that Truth are separated to a greater or lesser extent.
Clearly this is what you would like to believe, but it is not true. Denominations are all departures from the Apostolic faith, and Sacred Tradition, the Teaching of the Apostles, cannot be watered down or disregarded if unity is to exist. To be hidden in Christ is to be hidden in the Truth.
Exactly! That is because there IS NO CORNER. The Apostolic Faith is One, Holy, and Catholic. The corners were all created by humans, who, through pride and fear, denominated themselves.
When one is fully united to the Head, who is Christ, then one will be completly in unity with the Body. To the extent that divisions exist, the separated persons are not fully united to the Truth.
You seem to want to minimize the “theological distinctives”. However, this is only a way to justify the perpetration of heresies.
The tone and language of this thread,forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=5734020&postcount=117 and particularly this post, puts me in mind of another post I read with similar vocabulary.
This is a very good question. The answer is found in the catechism. Modern day Protesatants cannot be charged with the sin of heresy committed by their spiritual forebears. Most modern protestants have never been exposed to the Apostolic faith, in order to willfully refuse to embrace it (heresy). When they are exposed to it, it is so foreign to them that they think Catholics “made up or added a bunch of stuff to the plain gospel”. This is because they come from a spiritual tradition that is separated from the Apostolic Succession for 500 years.
This is also an important point. Jesus gave this command to the Church He founded. The commandment applies to persons who are under the teaching and authority of the successors of the Apostles. We understand that this is how He intends to keep His life within us.
And there you have it.