Benny Hinn and other evangelists

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dennisknapp:
No, you do not understand. They do get saved through God, I only used force to help them arrive at that point.

I agree, someone’s spiritual condition does not matter, but their methods and means do.

Peace
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I have to agree with Dennis here. If you try saving someone via trickery, lies and deception Benny style, then what exactly are you leading them to? I don’t really believe they are any closer to the truth.
 
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SPOKENWORD:
If you took their free will away then they would not be saved. :confused: God Bless
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They have freewill, I just helped them understand a few things through force. And really, doesn’t that fact that they are saved give credit to my method and means.

What the end goal should be is being saved. How I get there does not matter, nor who I am.

I can lie like Benny Hinn or I could was force, it doesn’t matter, right?

Peace
 
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dennisknapp:
They have freewill, I just helped them understand a few things through force. And really, doesn’t that fact that they are saved give credit to my method and means.

What the end goal should be is being saved. How I get there does not matter, nor who I am.

I can lie like Benny Hinn or I could was force, it doesn’t matter, right?

Peace
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Dennis,Lying is breaking the commandments of God.If someone is using lying as a means to bring someone to Christ I would run away. :eek: The Spirit of God is not a decieving spirit.God Bless
 
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Dennis,Lying is breaking the commandments of God.If someone is using lying as a means to bring someone to Christ I would run away. :eek: The Spirit of God is not a decieving spirit.God Bless
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Then I would run from Benny Hinn.

Peace
 
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Dennis,Lying is breaking the commandments of God.If someone is using lying as a means to bring someone to Christ I would run away. :eek: The Spirit of God is not a decieving spirit.God Bless
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I agree with this. And, based on the quotes provided by Scott LaFrance above, Benny Hinn is preaching a false gospel. Paul had harsh words for such preachers. If someone does manage to find Christ through the preaching of a false gospel, it is in spite of the false teaching and not because of it. The real tragedy in this isn’t all the theatrics or “false hope” given to people who follow such preachers, but that many may be deceived by the false gospel and led to destruction, thinking that they are saved. As Scripture says, Satan comes as an angel of light.
 
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Dennis,show me where Benny is lying while the person is being saved? :confused: God Bless
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Evidently you didn’t see fit to read the numerous examples that I’ve provided. Maybe you should scroll up and read again.
 
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Dennis,show me where Benny is lying while the person is being saved? :confused: God Bless
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Spoken, just curious, why do you defend someone like Benny Hinn? Is it simply that you feel the need to disagree with us Catholics or do you truly believe that he is a legitimate minister of the Gospel?
 
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Scott_Lafrance:
Evidently you didn’t see fit to read the numerous examples that I’ve provided. Maybe you should scroll up and read again.
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Same deal, I provided links concerning the ministry of Benny Hinn. Please go and read what these people have to say about his ministry. It is very revealing.

If you ever knew someone who had been taken in by Benny Hinn then you would soon change your tune. There are sick people out there who believe that he can cure them, and they will not go and get the right form of help. They say silly things like “I know I am cured but it has not manifested yet”. That is total mushroom fodder.

MaggieOH
 
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JimO:
Spoken, just curious, why do you defend someone like Benny Hinn? Is it simply that you feel the need to disagree with us Catholics or do you truly believe that he is a legitimate minister of the Gospel?
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Hi Jim,Because I believe people are coming to Christ through his ministry. I see millions of people at his crusades and see the Spirit of God moving among the people. Do I believe that Benny Hinn has problems with some of his beliefs and commercialism? Yes I do,but I also see people coming to Christ.Our salvation is not based on some elses state of perfection. :confused: God Bless
 
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MaggieOH:
Same deal, I provided links concerning the ministry of Benny Hinn. Please go and read what these people have to say about his ministry. It is very revealing.

If you ever knew someone who had been taken in by Benny Hinn then you would soon change your tune. There are sick people out there who believe that he can cure them, and they will not go and get the right form of help. They say silly things like “I know I am cured but it has not manifested yet”. That is total mushroom fodder.

MaggieOH
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My point is dont believe everything you read for not all of it is truth. :confused: God Bless
 
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Scott_Lafrance:
Evidently you didn’t see fit to read the numerous examples that I’ve provided. Maybe you should scroll up and read again.
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Hi Scott, I did read them,Yes I have a problem with some of his statements but not all. :confused: God Bless
 
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Hi Jim,Because I believe people are coming to Christ through his ministry. I see millions of people at his crusades and see the Spirit of God moving among the people. Do I believe that Benny Hinn has problems with some of his beliefs and commercialism? Yes I do,but I also see people coming to Christ.Our salvation is not based on some elses state of perfection. :confused: God Bless
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So, you are a spiritual utilitarian and forced conversions are alright?

Peace
 
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Hi Scott, I did read them,Yes I have a problem with some of his statements but not all. :confused: God Bless
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Which ones don’t you have a problem with?

Peace
 
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dennisknapp:
Which ones don’t you have a problem with?

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Hi Dennis, I would not have a problem with his belief of the trinity in the spiritual realm.As far as being little gods,oh well the cathechism agrees here in #460ccc. This is where Benny got this from being taught in a catholic school when he was a child. Jesus did take on sin when he went to the cross.Oh well.God Bless
 
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Hi Jim,Because I believe people are coming to Christ through his ministry. I see millions of people at his crusades and see the Spirit of God moving among the people. Do I believe that Benny Hinn has problems with some of his beliefs and commercialism? Yes I do,but I also see people coming to Christ.Our salvation is not based on some elses state of perfection. :confused: God Bless
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No, our salvation is not based on someone else’s state of perfection, but that does not justify following someone who preaches a false gospel. In 2 Cor. 11:3-4, Pauls states:
“My fear is that, just as the serpent seduced Eve by his cunning, your thoughts may be corrupted and you may fall away from your sincere and complete devotion to Christ. I say this because, when someone comes preaching another Jesus than the one we preached, or when you receive a different spirit than the one you have received, or a gospel other than the gospel you accepted, you seem to endure it quite well.”
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I don’t mean to sound harsh, but how do you know that all those people have accepted Jesus as their Savior or that the Holy Spirit is truly moving among them? Your belief in these things does not make them so. If Benny Hinn is preaching a false gospel, then those people may not be receiving the true gospel and the “spirit” that they are receiving and is “moving” among them may not be the Holy Spirit, but an evil spirit. This is precisely what Paul is warning the Corinthians about. Remember too, that the Corinthians were believers who had received Christ, and yet were being deceived by a false gospel.

If someone is claiming to preach the gospel, then it must stand up to Scripture. If it doesn’t, it’s a false gospel and those following such a preacher are subject to deception.

Having been involved in the Catholic charismatic renewal, I speak of things that I am familiar with, including the ministry of Benny Hinn. Although I would like to believe that he is leading thousands to Christ, I have grave concerns about his ministry, not because it is Protestant or Pentecostal, but simply because he does not preach the gospel in accordance with Scripture.
 
I previous posted that 20/20 had done a story on Benny Hinn, but I was wrong. It was Dateline NBC, December 27, 2002. Here’s the transcript of that story, and a follow-up story also done by Dateline. This is must reading for anyone who wants to know the truth about Benny Hinn and his “miracles”:

religionnewsblog.com/1684

JMJ Jay
 
I think its funny that he can call his events “crusades”, but at the same time they hate Catholics and bash them because of the crusades.

However I do agree with SW on the fact that he could at least utter the words of Jesus to people who have no idea whatsoever. Especially in todays age where a nonChristain looks to tv for his direction, and all the hype stirred up that makes him tune his ear on what Ben is saying. And if millions are at the very least hearing one thing that Jesus spoke I cant go against that. He might be off doctrinally, but in terms of rounding up the numbers he uses his air time to reach millions. One thing that is the hardest thing for me to do is get someone’s interest in Christ, the hype and welcoming attitude Ben put up is a step in the right direction.
Also I think that a lot of the healings are staged, but at the same theres that story of those “other guys” casting out demons in Christs name.

I agree with SW on this one.
 
Catholic Dude:
I think its funny that he can call his events “crusades”, but at the same time they hate Catholics and bash them because of the crusades.

However I do agree with SW on the fact that he could at least utter the words of Jesus to people who have no idea whatsoever. Especially in todays age where a nonChristain looks to tv for his direction, and all the hype stirred up that makes him tune his ear on what Ben is saying. And if millions are at the very least hearing one thing that Jesus spoke I cant go against that. He might be off doctrinally, but in terms of rounding up the numbers he uses his air time to reach millions. One thing that is the hardest thing for me to do is get someone’s interest in Christ, the hype and welcoming attitude Ben put up is a step in the right direction.
Also I think that a lot of the healings are staged, but at the same theres that story of those “other guys” casting out demons in Christs name.

I agree with SW on this one.
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Heres one dude that retains what is good and throws out the bad. 👍 God Bless
 
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