Bent Cross Crucifix?

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It’s not a “bent cross” it’s a papal crucifix. It’s just a stylized version of a standard crucifix. There’s not much mystery to it.

And, by the way, how can you “trick” people into worshiping the devil?

I’ve never heard of any connections between the papal cross and the anti-christ or satanism. The article is just a lie. Pure and simple. I’ll find out more and post again.
 
Did you check some of the links? This is a wild-eyed anti-Catholic site with connections to Beliefnet . . . You don’t know whether to laugh or cry over stuff like this.
 
I am sorry to say this but you have fallen for some protestant anti-Catholic lies.

Check out chick.com or mtc.com or bible.ca. All these anti-Catholic biggoted sites reley on false truth.

The bent cross is nothing but an artistic depiction of the crucifix and nothing more. One mans art may or may not be another mans but our Pope likes it. Have you ever seen art you thought was horrible only to find it was worth more then your house? We also do hold up the cross to worship God (Jesus) but we do not worship the object. The bent cross focusses our attention just like pictures of family on our walls, a badge on a cop or the flag of the US. Do you worship as a god the flag when you say the pledge?

There are many false prophets out there and you discovered a site with one. Don’t believe everything you read or see in the world. Dan Rather and CBS news even had to apologize for missleading us.
 
They will attack from all directions. Don’t be misled by people like this, it is bad enough trying to explain to people who genuinely don’t understand without trying to rebut those who are willing to make up lies to discredit us.

The Pope is a very holy man, never has he done anything that was satanic. Also, it is impossible to trick people into worshipping satan. These people need our prayers, God is the only one who can change them, they are the ones who are promoting evil by attacking Christ’s One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, and the Vicar of Christ.
 
There’s some information provided in the EWTN “Catholic Q&A” section about the papal crucifix. Nothing really definitive though.

One fellow says that the crucifix is based on a sketch by St. John of the Cross. Another says that the crucifix is bent to suggest the style of croziers carried by the eastern rite bishops.

I had heard some time ago that it was a design of eastern European origin, which makes sense since the Holy Father is Polish. I’ve spent some time looking at Lithuanian folk art which I imagine is very similar to Polish folk art since the countries are neighbors. The style of the papal crucifix reminds me of the style I’ve seen in some Lithuanian wood carvings. Some tend to be on the grotesque side.

I’ve seen the charges that it symbolizes anti-christ and I’ve looked for information on that. Nearly all the sites that make that claim are verbatim copies of one another and not one references an outside authoritative source that explains how and why it symbolizes what they claim. My suspicion is that somebody made the claim up out of whole cloth and anti-Catholics (not being the most critical thinkers out there) repeated it as gospel since it is damning of the Pope and the Church.
 
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Malachi4U:
I am sorry to say this but you have fallen for some protestant anti-Catholic lies.

Check out chick.com or mtc.com or bible.ca. All these anti-Catholic biggoted sites reley on false truth.

The bent cross is nothing but an artistic depiction of the crucifix and nothing more. One mans art may or may not be another mans but our Pope likes it. Have you ever seen art you thought was horrible only to find it was worth more then your house? We also do hold up the cross to worship God (Jesus) but we do not worship the object. The bent cross focusses our attention just like pictures of family on our walls, a badge on a cop or the flag of the US. Do you worship as a god the flag when you say the pledge?

There are many false prophets out there and you discovered a site with one. Don’t believe everything you read or see in the world. Dan Rather and CBS news even had to apologize for missleading us.
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Oh, I didn’t fall for anything! I knew it had to be false, I was just wondering at source for the claim, and the true symbolism behind the Pope’s cross.
 
I’ve always seen the bent top cross bar as the wood that could only barely support the weight of the world’s sins (especially my own). . .
 
A symbol is just that. It represents that which its bearer and the intended audience wish it to represent. A person could hold up an egg with a string taped to it and state that it stands for the Passion – and it would, at least to that person.

A fish, a painting of a man with a wet beard, three letters with an H in the middle, a sideways number 8, a cross, a crucifix… they all stand for what the people intend for them to stand for…

Many things in Christianity have pagan symbols incorporated with them – the Irish Cross is one such example. It does not matter what is included or not… a symbol is a symbol… if you start placing undue respect in what must compose a symbol and what should not than you are putting far too much emphasis on the earthly object and this comes dangerously close to idolatry.
 
I also saw on some site the Papal chair…with an upside down cross at the top of the chair. Pope John Paul II was sitting on said chair.

Blessings,
Shoshana
 
I think I know what they are saying. A fundamentalist friend once told me that the peace sign is satanic because it represents the broken arms of the cross and is put in a circle which is a symbol of containing the power. I think she said it was like when people summon demons, they summon them into a circle to have power over them. Anyway, I bet the “satanic” symbol is probably along the same lines as the reasoning of the peace symbol, the broken arms of the cross.

And just an FYI, Fundamentalist do believe you can “accidently” worship satan. In fact, there are books written on how to break the bondage of doors you opened to satan by innocently reading your horoscope for fun as a kid. There is no such thing as “invincible ignorance”.
 
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Shoshana:
I also saw on some site the Papal chair…with an upside down cross at the top of the chair. Pope John Paul II was sitting on said chair.

Blessings,
Shoshana
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Upside down cross: Tradition holds that Peter was crucified upside down. Oh, I forgot: the whole papacy is satanic. Silly me!:whistle:
 
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I think I know what they are saying. A fundamentalist friend once told me that the peace sign is satanic because it represents the broken arms of the cross and is put in a circle which is a symbol of containing the power. I think she said it was like when people summon demons, they summon them into a circle to have power over them. Anyway, I bet the “satanic” symbol is probably along the same lines as the reasoning of the peace symbol, the broken arms of the cross.
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Aside: What is the origin of the peace symbol?
 
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Upside down cross: Tradition holds that Peter was crucified upside down. Oh, I forgot: the whole papacy is satanic. Silly me!:whistle:
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Yes, the whole papacy thing is satanic to a lot of our protesting brethren. They use this as proof of what they are trying to preach…

I realize that Peter was crucified upside-down. You see this this on holy pictures, etc. but I must admit it is quite disconcerting to see it like this. I have been to both the Holy Land in 2000 (we were there just after the Pope’s visit) and Rome, and I have never seen even a symbol of Peter’s crucifixion in religious stores. And there are a trillion of them…😃

Just to make myself clear here…I LOVE THE POPE AND ALL THAT HE STANDS FOR…

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Blessings,
Shoshana
PS…this picture is the Pope at the Mount of Beatitudes…
 
Did anyone email these people or challenge them to prove their claims about the bent cross? Of course I don’t believe them, but I think they should be put in their place.
 
"The crucifix used by the Holy Father is technically his crozier, the shepherd staff that is the most senior ecclesiastical insignia of the bishop and represents his pastoral authority. As bishops and the shepherds of the Universal Church, the popes have used the crozier, but ceased doing so in the 11th century. Traditionally, the crozier traces its origins back all the way to the Apostles, and it is known to have been used in the traditional form by bishops(with an ornamental crook) from the time of Pope Celestine I (r. 422-432.

Pope Paul instituted a change upon his election. Rather than use a traditional crozier – seen as a symbol of jurisdictional authority – the pontiff adopted what was termed a pastoral staff. The staff was designed by Italian artist Lello Scorzelli in the shape of a crucifix. The staff was retained by both Popes John Paul I and John Paul II. In 1990, a new, slightly re-designed staff was presented to the pontiff in honor of his birthday. This staff is still in use today…"

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My rosary has a bent cross, essentially a copy of the papal crozier, and I think it’s beautiful. 🙂
 
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