Best Places to Get Straight-Up News?

[atjar]

Sounds like you are in the right business, one that you love.

Being a journalist I have always embraced tolerance and love of discordant voices. It adds to the richness of the human experience.

 

[kozlosap]

The Canadian news reports health news, environmental problems and issues a year ahead of the United States news:

cbc.ca/news

BBC News is all right but it is very liberal on all the social issues, bashes the Catholic Church and supports worldwide Sodomite Emancipation.

U.S. News tends to focus on the weather, celebrities, and a story about animals at the end of the broadcast.

bbc.com/news/

I also like PBS’s News Hour though it’s the same on all the social issues / Catholic Church/ Sodomites as the BBC.

It gives more in-depth coverage on the political issues but its reporting on the social issues is one-sided from the liberal point of view:

pbs.org/newshour/

You would like to be taken seriously and then use the term “sodomite” in your posts? Golly, maybe I’m wrong, but i don’t think lesbians are sodomites, and some gay men aren’t either. Of course, stereotyping an entire group or sub-group makes sense because we all understand that those who fear gay people are most likely in the closet themselves, right? Yep, stereotyping really works…

 

[Kithrus]

U recognize the press was specifically by name singles out for protection by our founding fathers? The lack of a USA in media meaning government involvement is what makes us beautiful. I read news press.com. am an editor there and journalist 36 years.

Freedom of the press isn’t freedom of speech.

 

[Coatimundi]

Freedom of the press isn’t freedom of speech.

Very true. The first amendment guarantees five rights:
Religion
Speech
the Press
the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and
to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

 

[atjar]

Freedom of the press isn’t freedom of speech.

Both are protected. And what’s your point? That there should be government censoring of the press/limits on speech and editorializing/only the facts mam. You know America isn’t governed like the Catholic Church.

“The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.” Thomas Jefferson

 

[Kithrus]

Both are protected. And what’s your point? That there should be government censoring of the press/limits on speech and editorializing/only the facts mam. You know America isn’t governed like the Catholic Church.

“The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.” Thomas Jefferson

See here is the thing the press is a sacred job in many ways and has great power. The problem with allowing news reports too much latitudes in coloring their reports becomes a form of censorship of its own making.

We have all see news reports where with a bit of editing and few choice statements those seemingly innocent protesters in the news come across as arrogant pricks when thats not the case.

No much for those protesters freedom of speech the press just took it from them for their own agenda.

The press should just report the news, period full stop. If they want to have a discussion panel after they just related events as they have happened then sure.

northumberlandnews.com/news-story/4594744-mp-dean-del-mastro-greeted-at-trial-by-masked-man/

The man in the mask is me. This article in unbias. the news at six on tv made the comment 'unlike the masked man dean del mastro says he has nothing to hide."

So now I’m the shifty guy hiding something. I was making a political statement, instead of just covering what happened they threw that comment in there which totally changed the view on me.

I can’t retort, my freedom of speech was trounced on. How is that fair?

 

[atjar]

“The press should just report the news, period full stop.”

Thank God our founding fathers didn’t think the way you did. It’s called the marketplace of ideas, voices, opinions, fact and fiction. It’s what makes us great; it’s what makes this experiment in citizen democracy successful unlike no place else in the world.

Believe me, if you read the press during the Revolutionary War, you’d see news stories where the king was called a whoremongerer and people were called out as drunks and louts. There’s nothing new here and after 238 years, we’ve survived!

Good day,
Andrew

 

[Kithrus]

“The press should just report the news, period full stop.”

Thank God our founding fathers didn’t think the way you did. It’s called the marketplace of ideas, voices, opinions, fact and fiction. It’s what makes us great; it’s what makes this experiment in citizen democracy successful unlike no place else in the world.

Believe me, if you read the press during the Revolutionary War, you’d see news stories where the king was called a whoremongerer and people were called out as drunks and louts. There’s nothing new here and after 238 years, we’ve survived!

Good day,
Andrew

Yeah and every country on the planet is older then you and are doing better then you.

That said there is a vast difference between stating a fact and saying in a way to make people think like you.

But I don’t blame you for being young and ignorant nation thinking they have all the answers. You were born of revalution and fire and violence. Being proud and loud is all you know.

Sadly that often including being wrong.

Your following the letters of your presious constitution, not the spirit it was written.

 

[atjar]

Yeah and every country on the planet is older then you and are doing better then you.

That said there is a vast difference between stating a fact and saying in a way to make people think like you.

But I don’t blame you for being young and ignorant nation thinking they have all the answers. You were born of revalution and fire and violence. Being proud and loud is all you know.

Sadly that often including being wrong.

Your following the letters of your presious constitution, not the spirit it was written.

Spoken like a non american.

 

[Cromwell4]

Being able to read a foreign lang. helps a lot. Otherwise read the Eng. lang. editions of Russian, Chinese, Arabic newspapers. Lots & lots out there. Then with a little introspection you may be forced to agree with Pilate - ‘What is truth?’. Everyone has an agenda & is pushing it. There is no such thing as objective truth in the media or even the history books. Even now, 100yrs later we still really dont know who was the guilty party in WWI.

 

[Kithrus]

Spoken like a non american.

If you had any idea how you (Americans) sound to the rest of the world you’d understand how much of a blessing not being a Yankee is.

Enjoy your 4th of July with German hotdogs and Chinese fireworks with NSA watching it all

 

[Lost_Sheep]

Screw bias, I want truth.

“Truth” is only what you choose to agree with.

 

[Kithrus]

“Truth” is only what you choose to agree with.

You have no idea assuming your Christian of some type how hallow that rings

 

[Coatimundi]

Everyone has an agenda & is pushing it. There is no such thing as objective truth in the media or even the history books.

I think we agree there is such a thing as objective truth. I think we also agree that, as human beings, we can never fully capture it. I disagree that everyone has an agenda which they promote in their news coverage. We can, to greater or lesser degrees, attempt to capture objective truth. The best news outlets make an effort to come as close as possible. They will refine, and refine again, their news reporting to be as objective as possible.

Some news outlets aren’t interested in being objective, and they deliberately advance an agenda. I think that is the wrong approach.

 

[atjar]

If you had any idea how you (Americans) sound to the rest of the world you’d understand how much of a blessing not being a Yankee is.

Enjoy your 4th of July with German hotdogs and Chinese fireworks with NSA watching it all

At least we have an Independence Day when we broke out fealty to England; can’t say the same for Canada.

 

[Kithrus]

At least we have an Independence Day when we broke out fealty to England; can’t say the same for Canada.

Yeah, we just asked politely and they gave it to us. We didn’t have to take it.

 

[Kithrus]

Then again now that I think about it if you so gung ho about freedom ect why do you yanks have the nsa and why is it still there?

I get flack for the anonymous thread and how I fight for freedom but the Americans can’t take two seconds to one, end nsa, two keep their noes in their own country.

Your military sucks and only has a virtue of tech and numbers, your government is in shambles, your freedom system is an illusion, you have cities like detroit staving to death by the thousands.

How about you clean your own front yard when it comes to ‘freedom’ before you start mocking our systems. Keep your constitution. a lot good its done you.

Melting pot hypocrits…

 

[Coatimundi]

Why don’t we drop the nationalistic chest-thumping and the jingoistic aspersions thrown at other countries? I don’t think either of those things are related to this thread.

There are decent, impartial news sources in the Western world. There is also sources which either are tabloids, or present news in a tabloid fashion. The OP was looking for the former, and I think we have presented some. If anyone would like to take issue with the sources which have been mentioned, that might be a more fruitful discussion.

 

[Dave27360]

The Associated Press
Website ap.org/
AP AP NEWS VALUES & PRINCIPLES ap.org/company/News-Values

Reuters
Website reuters.com/
Reuters Standards and Vaules handbook.reuters.com/index.php?title=Standards_and_Values

PBS NewsHour
Website pbs.org/newshour/
PBS Editorial & Funding Standards pbs.org/about/editorial-standards/

If someone can find the Editorial Standards of other US TV Media (ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, NBC News, CNN, etc) please let me know. To my knowledge if such standards exist it is not published anywhere.

 

[HardtoHear]

There has never been in humanity unbiased news. We just notice bias more now because of the availability of other options.

So we have to work at it a bit, but I go to The Drudge Report and then if something is provocative I’ll find as many articles as I can find on it and make a judgment.

I imagine there will be responses all over the place, but I’m going to try nonetheless.

I quit paying close attention to the news several years ago. It was too depressing, people yelled all the time, and it all seemed super infected with bias. Maybe that is still the case. But I feel like I don’t know much about what is going on, and I would like to see if - maybe there is the slightest chance of this - I can find some reliable, honest news sources to follow. I generally know where to find that for local coverage, which is helpful. I’m looking for US and international - print, online, TV, whatever you find and trust. I’m looking for news, too, not opinion and editorializing.

So is there such coverage out there, or am I chasing a pipe dream?