Best Source for Authentic Catholic Teaching

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bilop said:
One of the major issues with Doctors and Fathers of the Church is that they wrote before many doctrines were defined. So, some may advance heretical ideas and speculations, even though they were not heretics, since the Church had not spoken on those issues.

Therefore their writings must be read in concert with up to date magisterial teaching.

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If you believe something a Church Father doesn’t believe, who is wrong? You, who is 2000 years removed from the time of the Apostles? Or them, some of whom were direct disciples of the Apostles?
 
Scripture
Catechisms (I like the Baltimore Catechism too :))
Papal encyclicals
Ecumenical Councils
Writings of the Saints
 
jwinch2 said:
Agreed. It clearly states that the CCC is for the Bishops and to be used as a norm for the development of other Catechisms. However, it is obvious that many are using it as a text which, considering the manner in which it is written, can create problems of misinterpretation, as has been noted by others above.
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The Compendium of the CCC though, is directed at the laity and is available on-line on the Vatican website.
 
bilop said:
One of the major issues with Doctors and Fathers of the Church is that they wrote before many doctrines were defined. So, some may advance heretical ideas and speculations, even though they were not heretics, since the Church had not spoken on those issues.

Therefore their writings must be read in concert with up to date magisterial teaching.

God Bless
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Doctors of the Church do **not **write heresy in any way. That’s why they are Doctors of the Church. They are totally to be trusted and bring us the spiritual realities, which is, ultimately, the point.

Some of the Church Fathers may fit your description but not Doctors or they would not be Doctors. Here is a complete list of the Doctors of the Church: ourladyswarriors.org/saints/doctlist.htm
 
The irony is that he is saying that the forums aren’t a good source for Catholic teaching while telling people where to go for it…on the forums 🤷
 
NovusAugustus said:
The irony is that he is saying that the forums aren’t a good source for Catholic teaching while telling people where to go for it…on the forums 🤷
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I don’t see the irony there. There is no teaching made from the forums. Telling you where to get something is different from getting that thing.
 
ConstantineTG said:
I don’t see the irony there. There is no teaching made from the forums. Telling you where to get something is different from getting that thing.
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The irony is that he was on a forum informing someone that he shouldn’t seek information on a forum.
 
ConstantineTG said:
There is no irony there.
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If someone were to take his advice they would be violating it in doing so.
Oxford English Dictionary:
Definition of irony
noun (plural ironies)
[mass noun]
the expression of one’s meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect:
‘Don’t go overboard with the gratitude,’ he rejoined with heavy irony

a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result:
the irony is that I thought he could help me

[count noun]:
one of life’s little ironies
(also dramatic or tragic irony) a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character’s words or actions is clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.
Origin:

early 16th century (also denoting Socratic irony): via Latin from Greek eirōneia ‘simulated ignorance’, from eirōn ‘dissembler’
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Julia_Mae said:
I was PMed this question, but I think that it’s a thread. My answer would have been:

In this order:

1- Jesus Christ and Apostles (New Testament)
2- Early Church Fathers
3- Doctors of the Church
4- Catechism of the Catholic Church
5- Vatican 2 documents

What would be your top 5 sources?

(Oh. And if you just have to get your theology off You Tube, Fr Barron)
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I can see that neither EWTN nor ChurchMilitant.TV are on your list, Julia Mae.
 
ConstantineTG said:
  1. Tradition, as passed on by the Apostles
  2. Tradition, as taught by the Fathers
  3. Tradition, as read in the Scriptures
  4. Tradition, as prayed in the Liturgical prayers
  5. Tradition, as lived today consistently with nos. 1-4
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Absolutely correct, although I would have made number 5 Tradition, as explicated by the Holy Spirit through the Extraordinary Magisterium of the Church.
 
Julia_Mae said:
Doctors of the Church do **not **write heresy in any way. That’s why they are Doctors of the Church. They are totally to be trusted and bring us the spiritual realities, which is, ultimately, the point.

Some of the Church Fathers may fit your description but not Doctors or they would not be Doctors. Here is a complete list of the Doctors of the Church: ourladyswarriors.org/saints/doctlist.htm
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