Beth Moore Bible Study - Advice Needed

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BE True to GOD, to yourself and to HIS Teachings. IF they bring something up that you disagree with, use scripture to refute what they say. don’t get emotional, and be respectful of their beliefs.
IF they say something that you disagree with, then be honest and tell them that you don’t know, and you will have to find the answer and get back to them. Always research and then continue the talks the next time you meet

There is nothing wrong with saying I don’t know, or I don’t have full understanding. You will gain respect.
 
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Georgia Peach

BE True to GOD, to yourself and to HIS Teachings. IF they bring something up that you disagree with, use scripture to refute what they say. don’t get emotional, and be respectful of their beliefs.
IF they say something that you disagree with, then be honest and tell them that you don’t know, and you will have to find the answer and get back to them. Always research and then continue the talks the next time you meet

There is nothing wrong with saying I don’t know, or I don’t have full understanding. You will gain respect.
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I agree with the research on your own and no matter what always be pleasant, respectful and set a good example. I’m telling you true that out of blue someone could follow you! I like to keep a folder in the car with a church bulletin and some devotions to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and where there is 24/7 devotion to the Eucharist. I like to keep a little synopsis of my Catholic faith in mind if ever I’m asked about anything.
 
Anyone who is teaching Protestantism is teaching material heresy. Every heretic retains some substantial truths of the Faith, otherwise he would be an apostate. So you might find some points of agreement with a Protestant teacher. But why would you choose a Protestant Bible Study, or any Protestant to teach you the Christian Faith? A Protestant teacher is an heretical teacher.

Catholics should own a Catholic Bible and use a Catholic Bible study.
 
dhgray said:
Non-denominational means all denominations except Cathoic. You could also, if you are able, go to the non-denom bible study and clearly state the Catholic position. I’ve attended these bible studies and the easiest way to fend off the “whitnesses” is to agree to disagree. BTW, I’m the only Catholic in my family of evengelicals…

What’s more important, being able to quote scripture (chapter and verse) or being able to live it?

If they are quoting the bible, just remind them that the modern bible was written (assembled) by the Catholic Church. And besides, Jesus never spoke English, therefore he never said anything which is in your bible…food for thought.:rolleyes:

Find yourself a good Catholic bible study and strengther your faith. I have taken the Catholic Home Study Service (CHSS) bible study amm.org/chss.htm.

God Bless,
Davis
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I love Beth Moore. Her teaching is very solid and her spirit seems genuine. I know a ton of women who’s lives were really benefitted by her teaching.
 
Hi there…
First time using this forum - happened upon it while researching the book of Daniel. I am not Catholic and I am always in search of Truth. First, let me state that I’m sorry you felt a passive-aggressive vibe from Beth Moore. I’m certain there were no negative judgments coming from Beth. She’s is entirely about loving people - no matter what their beliefs. I think when we have divergent opinions on any issues, we have a tendency to feel hostility from the other side. Sometimes it’s truly there, but sometimes it’s truly not…misinterpretation being a function of our humanity.
At any rate, may God Bless you and keep you in your own search for Truth!
I do have a question about the Catholic interpretation of
2 Thessalonians 4 …where Christ’s return to earth is spoken of. Specifically, starting in vs. 16 … “For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage each other with these words.” (This event also being documented in Matthew 24:30…and elsewhere)
Of course, this is popularly known as ‘the Rapture’…that particular phrase, though, being unnecessary to the concept, I think we can agree.
I ask because ENiexgoski has mentioned it here, and my friend has also told me that her husband, who is Catholic does not ‘believe in’ this ‘catching up’ that scripture states so very clearly in these verses. I want to learn more and more about Catholicism. This feels like a nice safe place to ask the question. What exactly is the Catholic interpretation of these scriptures, if not that we will be ‘caught up’ with all Christians and Christ in the clouds to go to heaven??
Now, I pray that I can find my way back here to participate further in these discussions.
May God richly bless you all!!
Pistachio
P.S…also to the original post - I believe that it’s widely accepted in Christian theology that ‘the angel of the Lord’ is often actually what is called a “Christophony” … an actual pre-incarnate appearance of Christ in the Old Testament. There’s much Biblical research that’s been done on this.Check that out for yourself…see what you think!👍
 
Hi, Pistachio, and welcome to the forums!

It would be against the rules to “hijack” this thread to a discussion of the “Rapture.” So I won’t go into it myself - but here’s an article about it in the Catholic Answers Library.

You could also go to the top of the page and search for “rapture.” There have been *plenty *of threads about it…

Now, back to the original subject!

God bless us all,

Ruthie
 
lamzi said:
I am actually very strong and informed in my faith, just not real familiar with Daniel, and this Beth Moore study is actually being offered at my Catholic church.
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Have they at least taught you that Beth Moore’s “Book of Daniel” is different that the Catholic “Book of Daniel” as several sections of Beth Moore’s Daniel are missing?

:rolleyes:

Parts missing in Beth Moore’s “Daniel”

The Prayer of Azariah
The Song of the Three Jews,
Daniel and Susanna,
Daniel, Bel, and the Dragon
All are included in the Book of Daniel in the Catholic Bible.

How does one study the Scripture from a Catholic worldview, if he doesn’t even have the Catholic scriptures in front of him?

I think it would really limit your understanding when you aren’t given the whole picture.

BUT…As protestant bible studies go, she’s pretty good.
 
This comes quite some time after you have all discussed BM’s book Daniel. I am going to a Bible Study Wed for the 1st time on this book. I have a Matthew Henry Commentary - very old. Henry does not go into end times, etc. He relates Daniel’s experience to how we as Christians have to deal with today’s world. I am curious now to see what BM’s book is all about.
Susan
 
This is what the passage actually says.

they are not hurt; * and the • appearance of the fourth is like • a son of the gods.”

Chip McDaniel and C. John Collins, The ESV English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Old Testament, Da 3:25 (Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2006; 2006).
 
I was just surfing the net for information on this lady. I came across your site and was reading some of the post. I am like some of you, Not sure to stay or to run.

My church began this study about 2 weeks ago. i was unable to attend the first week . I like some of you had some reservations when I began to watch her.

I am A Christian of the Pentecostal faith and I do believe that God gave us a discerning gift as the Holy Spirit will lead us and guide us. First I felt a spirit of confusion in my mind and I know that God is not the author of confusion I Corinthians 14:33.

I’m praying that I have not formed an opinion of her with giving her a chance. I do plan on speaking with my pastor. The one thing I noticed is she reads from the NIV and I am a die hard King James Bible user. I do cross reference using Strongs concordance .

I agree with the one writter that if we will get into the word, the book of Daniel and we have a sincere heart to know more then God will reveal himself to us. If He leads us then we cannot go astray.

I hope I havent said to much. Thank you for lettiing me vent. GBU
 
Why does Beth Moore do Bible studies on books that are not in her Bible,ie. Esther, Daniel, etc.?
 
To the OP,

First I apologize if anything like this was already suggested. You mentioned it being sponsored by the military, do they have a Catholic Bible study counterpart? On the military base I am on we have the Military Council of Catholic Women (MCCW). mccw-worldwide.org/ Is a link to information about them. If you have that available, or are willing to start it up, you could begin with some Catholic studies, still in groups.

As for Beth Moore doing studies on Esther and Daniel. Protestants do have those two books in their Bibles, just incompletely so.
 
PUP said:
Why does Beth Moore do Bible studies on books that are not in her Bible,ie. Esther, Daniel, etc.?
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Esther and Daniel are in the Protestant Bible. It’s just that the Catholic Bible expands each of these books by two or three chapters.
 
GeorgiaPeach said:
  1. Her passive-aggressive attitude towards Catholicism. She makes numerous jabs at Catholic teaching that most Protestants or some Catholics for that matter wouldn’t recognize as such. A Catholic with weak understanding of Church teachings could be swayed by her distortions/ommisions/selective Bible quoting. Day one of Chapter 5 is about Sola Scriptura, although she doesn’t use that term. One of the bolded in red quotes in the margin is “The Bible is Complete and Fully Sufficient.” Ironically, she can’t make this point without referencing 8 sources outside scripture. Of course, she uses 2 Tim 3:16 to drive home her point. :rolleyes: In addition, she says that Baurach is a ‘writing’ and not scripture. Honestly, I had to laugh at her 2 Peter 3:15-16 reference to “self-proclaimed scholars” and “arrogance is not a sign of true intelligence.”
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GeorgiaPeach, I think you are being a little over sensitive about this. You are clearly well read in the Bible and well grounded in your faith, perhaps as much so as Beth Moore. As I just stated on another thread, Beth Moore’s real strength is her ability to speak and motivate. She is well read in the Bible but I would not characterize her as a scholar by any means. I have read a lot of her stuff and have never found her to be anti-Catholic. The jabs at Catholic teaching she makes may be objectively real but I doubt that she realizes she is making them. I just don’t think she knows about or thinks about Catholic beliefs. Beth is a Baptist and a lot of Baptists are like that. When they talk about matters of faith, the Catholic view just isn’t on their radar. So if you’re offended, it is not because Beth is putting you down. It is rather that your point of view is being ignored. I would stay and enjoy the fellowship with my friends, and perhaps speak up from time to time and say, “Hey, there is another way of looking at this . . .” 👍👍
 
Oh my goodness, let’s be a little bit more like Jesus and not be such harsh critics and judges of others! I have been on BOTH sides of the fence. I was a cradle Catholic, left and was in an evangelical non-denominational church for many years. In the last year I have returned to my roots. I have and am taking part in a Beth Moore bible study (actually it is her, as well as Priscilla Shrier and Kay Arthur). I also have done Beth’s studies on Daniel, Esther, Breaking Free, etc. etc. I have NEVER heard any anti-Catholic language from her, besides which if I did (i.e. the reference to what one person wrote as “solo scriptora” language, I would let it slide as her opinion - NOT the Gospel according to Beth Moore. I would much rather spend time with God and His word and really get excited about learning history, learning more about God, and how I can become more God-like, while using my own judgment as to what I personally am going to argue over. Isn’t there room in the Catholic church to examine the Bible from various theologians perspectives and make our own informed choices and decisions. My question to you Catholics that criticize Beth Moore’s studies is - so how many bible studies have you personally done and how well do you know the Bible? When I left the Catholic Church I didn’t even know how many books were in the Bible and what books were in the Old Testament and what ones were in the New Testament. I am thankful for all the bible knowledge and the love for the bible I acquired while in an evangelical church. Even though I have returned to Catholicism, I am hungering for more of the word, and am not seeing it offered at any churches in my area or diocese. That’s pretty sad. What’s more important, making sure every single little theological fact is 100% Catholic or having a passion for and spending hours in God’s word, devoring all the knowledge you can - and using your own discretion about letting certain minor issues slide?
 
disney1957 said:
Even though I have returned to Catholicism, I am hungering for more of the word, and am not seeing it offered at any churches in my area or diocese.
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disney1957,
I became a Catholic ten years ago after being raised in a protestant tradition. Like you, I immediately hungered for Catholic based Scripture study and could not initially find it offered near my home parish. Fortunately, this is a very exciting time for Catholic Scripture study and many new programs are being developed. I personally recommend the Jeff Cavins Great Adventure Series. Perhaps the map at the following link can help you find a Great Adventure study near where you live:

greatadventureonline.com/locator/map

Sincerely,
rocketrob
 
Georgiapeach,

Greetings from a fellow, former GA resident.

I can appreciate your struggle. I think you probably can’t worry too much about Beth Moore. I sincerely doubt she’s intentionally coming after Catholicism. Protestant apologetics, in the end, always comes off as somewhat anti-Catholic because they have to define themselves against us as a matter of fundamental identity. It’s certainly not personal or probably not intentional.

My question to you would be: are you being fed? Are you experiencing fellowship that is worth the sacrifice you have to make?

Or, maybe another way to look at it is that this is God’s cross for you. You can be a witness to His Church. I would stay away completely from argument and only state the CHurch’s position on a given topic. If someone argues with you, refuse to argue back. The power of the truth of the Church’s teaching will eventually penetrate the mind of those disposed to hear it.

Also, I would focus on what we do have in common with our separated brethren. In the South, I think orthodox Catholics have more in common with Southern Baptists than they do other Catholics. I know the knawing feeling that your colleagues are thinking about converting you or something like that. Just gotta put that out of your mind, focus on CHrist, accept your unique cross, and no doubt good will come out of it.
 
When Protestant churches start using Catholic bible studies, then maybe I would look into one.Since that won’t happened- I’ll stick to my Catholic rooted study.
 
I love Beth Moore and she has helped me to dig into Scripture like I never have before. I have high Catholic radar. She has never offended me. She has taught me a lot about God’s Word and studying my own behaviors, responses to people, and does the way that I live line up with Jesus. I do not think she presses her denomination. I think she presses The Holy Bible and I love it.
I’m currently doing Beth Moore’s Esther study. Wow! It was just ‘a Book’ before this! 👍
 
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