Beware the "common core standards" in govt schools

[CatholicGeek1]

The point is not no if the mother know how to use IPad, many people do not know how to use IPad. The key point is the nature and teaching of the question - old people should die.
Your response is a typical case of distracting attention from the key point which we shoud be concerned about. I see too many such techniques nowadays. Like Hilary Clinton used emotional approach “what difference does it make?” to turn people’s attention from the fact four Americans were killed. People without careful independent thinking will think on “what difference does it make” and stop thinking the truth needs to be known.

I addressed the main point. It was only the last few sentences of what I said that addressed the iPad.

I will repeat my point on the question. It is one question in one homework assignment at one school. It demonstrates that there is a problem with what is being taught by one teacher, in one classroom, and in one school. It does not demonstrate a problem with the core curriculum itself. I have said before and will say again, no one has shown any evidence that these are problems with the core curriculum. All people have shown are a couple of anecdotes that show there are bad teachers and bad textbook authors, as if we did not already know that.

 

[PTL]

whatiscommoncore.wordpress.com/tag/communism/

theburningplatform.com/?p=52534

patriotaction.net/forum/topics/common-core-communism-re-packaged

tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2013/04/03/the-dark-side-of-common-core-standards-for-education/

You can read all these through if you really want to educate yourself. More information available if you need them.

 

[AnastasiaRomano]

I will repeat my point on the question. It is one question in one homework assignment at one school. It demonstrates that there is a problem with what is being taught by one teacher, in one classroom, and in one school. It does not demonstrate a problem with the core curriculum itself. I have said before and will say again, no one has shown any evidence that these are problems with the core curriculum. All people have shown are a couple of anecdotes that show there are bad teachers and bad textbook authors, as if we did not already know that.

I think the more interesting and useful criticisms of the Common Core standards are the ones that are not hysterical about liberalism/communism/etc. For example, the Washington Post has run a series of guest op-eds criticizing certain aspects of Common Core – e.g. a child development expert criticizing the early childhood standards (developed without any (name removed by moderator)ut from early childhood experts) as unrealistic, a parent criticizing the new CC math curriculum in New York’s schools, math professors concerned about the content of the new math standards, English teachers and professors concerned about fiction being significantly reduced in the CC standards, an 8th-grader explaining the “product placement” in the new standardized English exam written by Pearson… etc.

washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/01/29/a-tough-critique-of-common-core-on-early-childhood-education/ → criticism of the early childhood standards
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/02/26/why-i-oppose-common-core-standards-ravitch/ → criticism from Diane Ravitch, educational historian and former assistant Secretary of Education, over the lack of any field testing of the standards
articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-12-02/local/35584536_1_informational-text-middle-school-teacher-english-teachers → a news story (not op-ed) about the fiction and poetry English teachers are dropping from the curriculum in order to comply with the CC standard that 70 percent of high school reading be non-fiction.
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/a-critical-analysis-of-common-core-math-standards/2012/09/18/1584fd0c-f6b4-11e1-8253-3f495ae70650_blog.html → op-ed criticizing the content of the new math standards
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/04/04/why-renowned-educators-and-new-teachers-are-occupying-ed-dept/ → an op-ed from one of the teachers who participated in an “Occupy DOE” protest
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/04/07/principal-to-parents-dont-buy-the-bunk-about-new-common-core-tests/ and washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/03/04/principal-i-was-naive-about-common-core/ → principal who formerly supported CC writes an op-ed criticizing New York’s new Common Core tests
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/teacher-one-maddening-day-working-with-the-common-core/2012/03/15/gIQA8J4WUS_blog.html → a New York teacher’s criticism of the prepackaged lesson exemplars
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/05/08/eighth-grader-what-bothered-me-most-about-new-common-core-test/ → product placement on the 2013 New York 8th grade English test

The hysteria over communism is really not helping conservatives who are opposed to Common Core make their point, IMO. There are good, reasonable criticisms of the content of the standards, which I have been looking into since my first reply on this thread several months back… But it’s very hard to listen to someone who is all hysterical about liberalism or communism or whatever frightening -ism.

 

[PTL]

I think the more interesting and useful criticisms of the Common Core standards are the ones that are not hysterical about liberalism/communism/etc. For example, the Washington Post has run a series of guest op-eds criticizing certain aspects of Common Core – e.g. a child development expert criticizing the early childhood standards (developed without any (name removed by moderator)ut from early childhood experts) as unrealistic, a parent criticizing the new CC math curriculum in New York’s schools, math professors concerned about the content of the new math standards, English teachers and professors concerned about fiction being significantly reduced in the CC standards, an 8th-grader explaining the “product placement” in the new standardized English exam written by Pearson… etc.

washingtonpost.com/blogs/…ood-education/ → criticism of the early childhood standards
washingtonpost.com/blogs/…dards-ravitch/ → criticism from Diane Ravitch, educational historian and former assistant Secretary of Education, over the lack of any field testing of the standards
articles.washingtonpost.com/2…glish-teachers → a news story (not op-ed) about the fiction and poetry English teachers are dropping from the curriculum in order to comply with the CC standard that 70 percent of high school reading be non-fiction.
washingtonpost.com/blogs/…0650_blog.html → op-ed criticizing the content of the new math standards
washingtonpost.com/blogs/…pying-ed-dept/ → an op-ed from one of the teachers who participated in an “Occupy DOE” protest
washingtonpost.com/blogs/…on-core-tests/ and washingtonpost.com/blogs/…t-common-core/ → principal who formerly supported CC writes an op-ed criticizing New York’s new Common Core tests
washingtonpost.com/blogs/…4WUS_blog.html → a New York teacher’s criticism of the prepackaged lesson exemplars
washingtonpost.com/blogs/…mon-core-test/ → product placement on the 2013 New York 8th grade English test

The hysteria over communism is really not helping conservatives who are opposed to Common Core make their point, IMO. There are good, reasonable criticisms of the content of the standards, which I have been looking into since my first reply on this thread several months back… But it’s very hard to listen to someone who is all hysterical about liberalism or communism or whatever frightening -ism.

I agree with most of what you have said.
Regardless what criticism, either from the pure educational point of view or from the concern of invasion of communism, common core is a disaster IMO.

You cannot call concerm of communism hysterical. It is simly not. Being alert on communism is being prudent, not hysterical. Calling prudence hysterical is exactly how the dark power find its way and creep into our once good society.

 

[Cojuanco]

I think the more interesting and useful criticisms of the Common Core standards are the ones that are not hysterical about liberalism/communism/etc. For example, the Washington Post has run a series of guest op-eds criticizing certain aspects of Common Core – e.g. a child development expert criticizing the early childhood standards (developed without any (name removed by moderator)ut from early childhood experts) as unrealistic, a parent criticizing the new CC math curriculum in New York’s schools, math professors concerned about the content of the new math standards, English teachers and professors concerned about fiction being significantly reduced in the CC standards, an 8th-grader explaining the “product placement” in the new standardized English exam written by Pearson… etc.

washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/01/29/a-tough-critique-of-common-core-on-early-childhood-education/ → criticism of the early childhood standards
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/02/26/why-i-oppose-common-core-standards-ravitch/ → criticism from Diane Ravitch, educational historian and former assistant Secretary of Education, over the lack of any field testing of the standards
articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-12-02/local/35584536_1_informational-text-middle-school-teacher-english-teachers → a news story (not op-ed) about the fiction and poetry English teachers are dropping from the curriculum in order to comply with the CC standard that 70 percent of high school reading be non-fiction.
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/a-critical-analysis-of-common-core-math-standards/2012/09/18/1584fd0c-f6b4-11e1-8253-3f495ae70650_blog.html → op-ed criticizing the content of the new math standards
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/04/04/why-renowned-educators-and-new-teachers-are-occupying-ed-dept/ → an op-ed from one of the teachers who participated in an “Occupy DOE” protest
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/04/07/principal-to-parents-dont-buy-the-bunk-about-new-common-core-tests/ and washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/03/04/principal-i-was-naive-about-common-core/ → principal who formerly supported CC writes an op-ed criticizing New York’s new Common Core tests
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/teacher-one-maddening-day-working-with-the-common-core/2012/03/15/gIQA8J4WUS_blog.html → a New York teacher’s criticism of the prepackaged lesson exemplars
washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/05/08/eighth-grader-what-bothered-me-most-about-new-common-core-test/ → product placement on the 2013 New York 8th grade English test

The hysteria over communism is really not helping conservatives who are opposed to Common Core make their point, IMO. There are good, reasonable criticisms of the content of the standards, which I have been looking into since my first reply on this thread several months back… But it’s very hard to listen to someone who is all hysterical about liberalism or communism or whatever frightening -ism.

Aye. There is nothing wrong in itself with a common core standard program - business has been asking it for years, especially foreign business. It’s merely education reform that has been stymied by the fact that this country has a long tradition of decentralized and destandardized education. Now there are reasonable critiques to be made, surely. But I hardly think that a policy set primarily for the benefit of the great industrialists is creeping Communism. There usually aren’t Reds under the bed these days.

 

[RACJ]

Sorry if this is a repeat of information, but here are two vital websites:

catholicschoolstandards.org/common-core and truthinamericaneducation.com/

I am a father of three and a public HS teacher. My children currently attend public schools, and my wife and I are considering putting them in our parish school to escape Common Core. Unfortunately I just received (today) an email from the Archdiocese of Los Angeles that it is implementing CC. The first link above was supplied by one of its representatives. This is not good!

CC is being pushed by left-wing internationalists such as Bill Gates. Gates is responsible for the mindless ISO mush that corporations must pretend to follow. Teaching to some generic standards which do not reward innovation, creativity and individuality is indeed a product of a Communist mindset. Parents should demand to see every damn word that is being presented to their children. I smell rot. :dts: Rob

 

[RACJ]

Aye. There is nothing wrong in itself with a common core standard program - business has been asking it for years, especially foreign business. It’s merely education reform that has been stymied by the fact that this country has a long tradition of decentralized and destandardized education. Now there are reasonable critiques to be made, surely. But I hardly think that a policy set primarily for the benefit of the great industrialists is creeping Communism. There usually aren’t Reds under the bed these days.

There is EVERYTHING wrong with CC. We are all individuals made in the image of God, capable of original and rational thought. What do you want to bet that our children will not learn one shred of information explaining why America and our Constitution is worth preserving? THAT is what is lacking today—an appreciation for what we have been bequeathed. An individual can be a repository of vast quantities of information, and yet not possess an iota of common sense or have the ability to think critically. The problem, re your dismissal of our concerns, is not so much the fact that radicals hold the levers of much power in America today, (which is bad enough), but that many of our good citizens can no longer recognize their blatant propaganda which is destroying us. Rob

 

[CatholicGeek1]

There is EVERYTHING wrong with CC. We are all individuals made in the image of God, capable of original and rational thought. What do you want to bet that our children will not learn one shred of information explaining why America and our Constitution is worth preserving? THAT is what is lacking today—an appreciation for what we have been bequeathed. An individual can be a repository of vast quantities of information, and yet not possess an iota of common sense or have the ability to think critically. The problem, re your dismissal of our concerns, is not so much the fact that radicals hold the levers of much power in America today, (which is bad enough), but that many of our good citizens can no longer recognize their blatant propaganda which is destroying us. Rob

Do you have any examples of a common core compliant history program that does not include education on the Constitution and American History, or are we back to just idle speculation on this thread?

 

[PTL]

There is EVERYTHING wrong with CC. We are all individuals made in the image of God, capable of original and rational thought. What do you want to bet that **our children will not learn one shred of information explaining why America and our Constitution is worth preserving? **THAT is what is lacking today—an appreciation for what we have been bequeathed. An individual can be a repository of vast quantities of information, and yet not possess an iota of common sense or have the ability to think critically. The problem, re your dismissal of our concerns, is not so much the fact that radicals hold the levers of much power in America today, (which is bad enough), but that many of our good citizens can no longer recognize their blatant propaganda which is destroying us. Rob

What this means is Common Core in unconstitutional:

In addition to the Constitution’s 10th Amendment, a federal law called The General Educational Provisons Act (G.E.P.A.)
** prohibits the federal government from directing education –very, very clearly:**

“No provision of any applicable program shall be construed to authorize any department, agency, officer, or employee of the United States to exercise any direction, supervision, or control over the curriculum, program of instruction, administration, or personnel of any educational institution, school, or school system, or over the selection of library resources, textbooks, or other printed or published instructional materials by any educational institution or school system…“

 

[RACJ]

Do you have any examples of a common core compliant history program that does not include education on the Constitution and American History, or are we back to just idle speculation on this thread?

If you don’t believe that our schools today are horrifyingly deficient in imparting any understanding of our founding, just ask a few random young people some pertinent questions. This lack of common knowledge about the formation of the greatest society in human history is of no concern to CC proponents. Or do you have evidence to the contrary? :doh2:

 

[PTL]

cato.org/publications/commentary/our-constitution-how-many-us-know-it

Among our imminent and future voters — students in our schools — how many know about the separation of powers? In the National Assessment of Educational Progress — NAEP (“The nation’s report card”): “Only one in 10 demonstrated acceptable knowledge of the checks and balances among the legislative, executive and judicial branches, according to test results released on Wednesday.” (New York Times, May 4)

And what of their parents? Of 1,000 citizens who were asked in a Newsweek poll: ” ‘What is the supreme law of the land?’ 70 percent of the 1,000 citizens polled by Newsweek couldn’t answer correctly.” (ABC News, May 13).

Answer: The Constitution!

That is how the current Administration controls our lives and we let them.
That is how Common Core is implemented and we let them. Better yet, like so many here on the forum cheers for tyranny without knowing what they are cheering for. Even after being reminded and told, they stick to their ignorance. Even statistics and documents are provided, they keep on asking for proof instead of doing critical thinking. A great empire is destined to fall when its people lose their conscientious judgment.

 

[mt_gooseberry]

If you don’t believe that our schools today are horrifyingly deficient in imparting any understanding of our founding, just ask a few random young people some pertinent questions. This lack of common knowledge about the formation of the greatest society in human history is of no concern to CC proponents. Or do you have evidence to the contrary? :doh2:

I received a degree in Secondary Education with a Major in History from the University of Montana-Western in 2009. I have been subbing in the public schools of two districts, as well as in a local independent Catholic school, since then. I can assure you that the important stuff is being taught. The US Constitution is taught inside and out. Students read from the primary sources, from Rosseau, Locke, Jefferson, the Federalist Papers, etc. If a few random young people are deficient in their understanding, it is due to a myriad of reasons, but mostly because young people lack the motivation to learn about these things. Just this Friday I repeatedly had to reprimand a young lady for blatantly interrupting the lesson, and she looked me straight in the eye and said, “Well I just don’t care about this stuff.” We teachers can only do so much with the raw material the parents send us! And yes, I am also a parent, and I take great pains to ensure that my kids are enthusiastic learners.

cato.org/publications/commentary/our-constitution-how-many-us-know-it

Among our imminent and future voters — students in our schools — how many know about the separation of powers? In the National Assessment of Educational Progress — NAEP (“The nation’s report card”): “Only one in 10 demonstrated acceptable knowledge of the checks and balances among the legislative, executive and judicial branches, according to test results released on Wednesday.” (New York Times, May 4)

And what of their parents? Of 1,000 citizens who were asked in a Newsweek poll: ” ‘What is the supreme law of the land?’ 70 percent of the 1,000 citizens polled by Newsweek couldn’t answer correctly.” (ABC News, May 13).

Answer: The Constitution!

That is how the current Administration controls our lives and we let them.
That is how Common Core is implemented and we let them. Better yet, like so many here on the forum cheers for tyranny without knowing what they are cheering for. Even after being reminded and told, they stick to their ignorance. Even statistics and documents are provided, they keep on asking for proof instead of doing critical thinking. A great empire is destined to fall when its people lose their conscientious judgment.

This does not necessarily point to the failure of CCSS. It could just as easily be interpreted as the lack of motivation among students, the lack of support from parents who themselves aren’t well-educated, the failure of specific teachers, etc. Of all the things that have me despairing of the state of our schools, CCSS is the least of my worries. What makes me sick with worry is that kids just. don’t. care. And neither do their parents.

During my teacher prep year, we spent an entire semester just on how to teach kids to think critically. It was so intensive that sometimes I felt like my head was going to get up and walk away without me. The number one thing I came away from teacher education with was the upmost importance of teaching kids how to think critically. It is a huge part of social studies education.

Now, I am not saying that I embrace CCSS wholeheartedly. I think some of it stinks. But some of this criticism just doesn’t hold up.

 

[PTL]

Common Core is a big trouble!

The following is a good read. Everyone who has children should read it and pass it on to other parents.

weeklystandard.com/blogs/beginning-common-cores-trouble_731923.html

 

[Dagma]

Sorry to interrupt, but I thought you may help me.
As I can see the discussion is very lively.

I am Polish university student and I am currently doing my M.A. degree in American Studies. My thesis describes the changes in the literary canon and reading lists in Language Arts after introducing the Common Core State Standards. My research require teachers of American high schools to fill the following survey:

docs.google.com/forms/d/1Qqed9l1IxNwsdsr2qTcjKt-_ARiDQcQPlHvle2fwSzw

I would be grateful if you could kindly fill or maybe share this questionnaire with teachers you may know.

 

[Rau]

If Catholic schools accept Common Core, they will be subjecting children to more ideas which seek to ruin their souls, mocks the Church, and will result in fewer adults adhering to religion (which is part of the goal of the left, always has been).

Mimi

What exactly are the ideas, in CCS, that give rise to this concern?

 

[Rau]

Debates over the content of a standard or curriculum are well and good. But I’m amazed to read the comments of those who simply object on principle to the idea of a standard which is common across jurisdictions (presumably with the concurrence of those jurisdictions given the law grants primacy on education to the States).

Is there any reason why a 2nd grader in CA ought to be targeting a different set of achievements or learning outcomes in maths than a 2nd grader in WA?

It seems to me that educational resources in education might be far more effectively deployed if we did not have the duplication and waste of:

• multiple jurisdictions all defining their own standards and curriculum;
• even more multitudinous teachers all creating their own lesson plans.

Standards are good when approached in a manner which captures the best of available practice, and not simply the opinion of the committee given the role of standard setting. That’s the outcome on which this debate could usefully focus.

Autonomy should be focused on where it is valuable, for example selection of appropriate elective subjects, remedial programs, special needs, excellence programs, extracurricular programs, and so on.

 

[PTL]

youtube.com/watch?v=GJIrD1iJLjs

 

[Rau]

To those who wish to post links to other sites, can I suggest you do us all a favour and include in your post a short précis of the position taken or point made by the material to which you are linking. In this way, you help us all use our time well, and get the most out of the forum.

 

[PTL]

It is basically a verbal interview to listen. It says the validation committee’s Dr. James Milgram, a professor at Stanford University refused to sign off on the common core math because it is “as non-challenging as possible”, it makes us lose competitive ability with any other country. And common core is one standard fits all students which is not going to benefit students according to his unique ability. You have to listen to the interview.

 

[Megan7]

Parents - beware of Common Core Standards. It is probably already in your state/school system. Currently, it is being pushed for Math & English, but the plan is to get these standards in use for ALL subject areas.

newswithviews.com/iserbyt/iserbyt114.htm

By Charlotte Iserbyt
February 19, 2013 NewsWithViews.com
**
MASONIC SNAKES IN CATHOLIC EDUCATION**
snip:

The Common Core is being pushed all over the US. There is someone in the Rockford Diocese promoting it for all Catholic schools! Parents need to get going:

• gather information (email me if you need a handout or see

stopcommoncore.com/

• contact your diocesan Chancellor & arrange to meet with staff
• spread the word
• alert your local school board (find conservative members)
• email ALL fellow Catholics in your address book re Common Core

Also dangerous (and related) is the International Baccalaureate. This is anti-religion, anti-American and teaches children to be Global Citizens as the primary goal. It is part of the UN Agenda 21 goals, part of which is to institute neo-pagan Earth Worship to replace Christianity. See what their own documents have to say about it:
unp.un.org/details.aspx?entry=E93020&title=Agenda+21:+Earth+Summit±+The+United+Nations+Programme+of+Action+from+Rio
An Anti-Agenda 21 site: Freedom Advocates
freedomadvocates.org/frequently_asked_questions_/

Then there is C-Scope (as if there were not already enough things to fight...).
It is entirely digital - NO way for parents to review what is being taught & can be changed at any time.
C-Scope web site:
[cscope.us/](http://www.cscope.us/)

Stand Up Fight Back (against C-Scope)
[standupfightback.us/exciting-developments-concerning-cscope-fight-still-far-from-over/#sthash.P9mT1T01.DsyoqETt.dpbs](http://www.standupfightback.us/exciting-developments-concerning-cscope-fight-still-far-from-over/#sthash.P9mT1T01.DsyoqETt.dpbs)



Above all - PRAY for our country, our precious children, and homeschool if you possibly can!

Mimi

Thank you for the links & article.