Bi-Ritual?

[malta]

Hello Everybody. I am wondering if there are any schools, programs etc. designed to assist priests ordained in the Novus Ordo to be able to say Mass and celebrate the other sacraments in Latin according to the 1962 liturgical books.

I think there are many who would like to be able to celebrate both rites if they had some help with the language and rubrics. Anybody know of anything like this?

 

[CatholicNerd]

malta:

Hello Everybody. I am wondering if there are any schools, programs etc. designed to assist priests ordained in the Novus Ordo to be able to say Mass and celebrate the other sacraments in Latin according to the 1962 liturgical books.

I think there are many who would like to be able to celebrate both rites if they had some help with the language and rubrics. Anybody know of anything like this?

There are priests who have bi-ritual faculties, but in the case of the Novus Ordo and the Tridentine Mass, this is not an issue of two separate rites. These are two orders of the Mass that stem from the same rite of the Church, namely the Latin Rite (I prefer the term church, myself). The FSSP www.fssp.org exists to ordain men with Tridentine faculties. I believe that their seminaries could also grant Novus Ordo priests faculties to celebrate the Tridentine Mass. Not sure how it all works. Cardinal Arinze was correct when he said that the Mass is a living entity. We do not put old orders of the Mass into the ‘Vatican Freezer’ and pull them out at random. We have a very unique situation in the Latin Church and I’m sure that the Vatican has made provisions for priests who wish to be given Tridentine faculties. I just dunno what those provisions are.

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

malta:

Hello Everybody. I am wondering if there are any schools, programs etc. designed to assist priests ordained in the Novus Ordo to be able to say Mass and celebrate the other sacraments in Latin according to the 1962 liturgical books.

I think there are many who would like to be able to celebrate both rites if they had some help with the language and rubrics. Anybody know of anything like this?

Technically this is not bi-ritual. As both the Novus Ordo and the Trad Latin Mass are of the Latin Rite.

 

[TheGrowingGrape]

What about the Marionite Catholics? Do they celebrate a latin indult??

 

[Hesychios]

TheGrowingGrape:

What about the Marionite Catholics? Do they celebrate a latin indult??

I believe that you mean Maronite. If so, the answer would be no.

Maronites have their own liturgy based upon the West Antiochian liturgical tradition. It is very dignified by the way, and due to some latinizations over the course of centuries may exhibit some Latin rite qualities, but the intention is to eventually remove those from the rite and restore as much of the Syro-Antiochian tradition as possible, at least those aspects that were definately used by the Maronites in the past.

I thought you’d like to know.

Michael

 

[JohnCantius]

It is not bi-ritual since the Tridentine and Novus Ordo Mass is all part of the Latin Rite. But to answer the orginal question. Several religous orders train their priests to pray both the Tridentine Mass and Novus Ordo. they Include the Franciscan Friars of Mary Imaculate, Society of St John Cantius. A diocesen (secular) priest can have the indlt to also pray the Tridentine Mass.

 

[malta]

Thanks for the info about the Religious Orders. I was unaware of the Society of St. John Cantius. However, I was more interested in what help might be available to diocesan priests who want to expand their ministry by being able to celebrate both masses.

It seems that the only alternatives are to join a religious order that celebrates the TLM or to work out something on one’s own via Latin classes and the help of a priest who is familiar with the TLM rubrics. Those who want to promote the TLM would do themselves a great service if they provided functioning priests with the means to learn it.