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rstoehrs
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I don’t believe the Bible endorses the practice but neither does it condemn it. I want to be certain I am correct before I make the contention to an agnostic who made the charge.
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bpbasilphx
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Nowhere does the Bible set up slavery as a good thing in itself.
The Fourth (or 3rd) Commandment about the Sabbath was an enforced rest from labor that extended even to one’s slaves and farm animals.
In Jewish oral law, slaveholding was hedged with so many restrictions that there was a proverb: He who buys a slave buys himself a new master.
In St. Paul’s letters, he expressed the totally revolutionary ideas that Christian slaves were God’s free men, Christian masters were God’s slaves, and slaves and their masters were brethren.
The Fourth (or 3rd) Commandment about the Sabbath was an enforced rest from labor that extended even to one’s slaves and farm animals.
In Jewish oral law, slaveholding was hedged with so many restrictions that there was a proverb: He who buys a slave buys himself a new master.
In St. Paul’s letters, he expressed the totally revolutionary ideas that Christian slaves were God’s free men, Christian masters were God’s slaves, and slaves and their masters were brethren.
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rstoehrs
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Thanks, I appreciate your quick response. I just didn’t feel fully confident to reply with some degree of assurity that there is no endorsement of such a societal construct.
The debate ensued following a discussion of Biblical truths and “philosophies to live by”.
The debate ensued following a discussion of Biblical truths and “philosophies to live by”.
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agangbern
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Slavery to justice? Yes, the bible endorses it. (Romans 6:18)
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Athanasiy
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When we read the Bible we must use the exegezis.
We must consider the context of time when that or that statement was proclaimed.
Some of the Biblical verses can be considered as racistic , or slavery defending statements but it is only when we use the Bible by the wrong hermeneutics and wrong application of exegezis.
The Bible is the Word of God but we must understand that the Bible was written by the people during the thousands of years , by the people who had their own time , cultures and circumstances .
We must consider the context of time when that or that statement was proclaimed.
Some of the Biblical verses can be considered as racistic , or slavery defending statements but it is only when we use the Bible by the wrong hermeneutics and wrong application of exegezis.
The Bible is the Word of God but we must understand that the Bible was written by the people during the thousands of years , by the people who had their own time , cultures and circumstances .
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PaperMoon
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Slavery in the Bible was not the same kind of slavery we think of today. The slavery God did not condemn was indentured servant kind of slavery where people were slaves for a limited time to pay off debts etc.or homeless people who had nothing and agreed to work for someone just to have a place to stay and food to eat. And God always instructed His people to treat their slaves kindly.I don’t believe the Bible endorses the practice but neither does it condemn it. I want to be certain I am correct before I make the contention to an agnostic who made the charge.
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StRaphael
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Amen. Killing a slave (who was to be treated as a regular worker and not like cattle according to Lev 25:39-43) was punishable [Ex 21:20], runaway slaves were for all intents and purposes free [Dt 23:15-16], permanently injured slaves were emancipated [Ex 21:26-27], and all slaves were freed anyway after six years of service [Ex 21:2; Dt 15:12] or every 50th year [Lev 25:10,47-54]. When slaves were freed they were given ample grain, wine, and livestock [Dt 15:12-15]. If a wife was neglected she was automatically freed [Ex 21:10-11]. Gentiles were to be treated and loved the same way as Israelites [Lev 19:33-34]. The list goes on.Slavery in the Bible was not the same kind of slavery we think of today. The slavery God did not condemn was indentured servant kind of slavery where people were slaves for a limited time to pay off debts etc.or homeless people who had nothing and agreed to work for someone just to have a place to stay and food to eat. And God always instructed His people to treat their slaves kindly.
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Athanasiy
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There are the Biblical realities which are unchanging , absolute , and immutable because those realities are springing from the eternal fixed , revealed principles.
But there are the realities which are partial , changing and contingent.
The realities which are bounded by the time and have specific historical context.
Therefore to say that the Bible endorses slavery will be absolutely wrong.
But there are the realities which are partial , changing and contingent.
The realities which are bounded by the time and have specific historical context.
Therefore to say that the Bible endorses slavery will be absolutely wrong.
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agangbern
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It depends upon what kind of slavery one is talking about. Slavery as in making a person a mere property of another created being is not endorsed. But slavery as in totally giving oneself to God, to surrender one’s will to the will of the Father, yes it is endorsed in the bible. “Our Father, who art in heaven, Holy be your Name. Your Kingdom come. YOUR WILL BE DONE on earth as it is in Heaven….”
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