No argument, though I wonder how other Catholics will respond to a description of Trent as a Western council, only confirming the canon of the Latin Church.=QNDNNDQDCE;11630246]According to my reading of Trent, the Latin Church simply affirmed the inspiration of her own canon. The Council of Trent was a Western council contra Protestantism so the Eastern canons of Scripture were not of concern, especially when the Latin Church was at the time in communion with man Churches with broader canons.
I wouldn’t use the term hypocritical.You ask how this is not hypocritical.
Ok, but again, that’s not the message I get about it from others. I actually think this sounds somewhat like the Lutheran approach, though we would include the DC’s.Well, it is not really a comparable comparison. Regardless of the inspiration of other books, the Tridentine canon has been sufficient for the Latin Church and it is our tradition. For the canonicity of the books within the canon, we can trust the infallible judgment of the Church. At the same time, we can believe that there are inspired writings outside the canon, but we are fine with what we have. We would probably be just as fine with the Protestant canon, but that is not the canon of the Church.
Within our confessions, there is no such statement from a Lutheran POV. I think the view of the Reformers and since then many Lutherans is higher than this (American Lutherans perhaps the exception).Protestants, on the other hand, generally teach that the deuterocanonical Catholic books are not inspired, and “edifying” at best.
No. That’s not how sola scriptura works, at least for Lutherans. Certainly things can be believed that are not extant in scripture. But doctrine, that which binds the conscience of the believer, is normed by scripture. For example, as a Lutheran I am bound to the doctrine of the Theotokos, because it is explicit in scripture. OTOH, I am perfectly free as a Lutheran to accept the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, but I am not bound to the belief by doctrine because it is not clear in scripture.Another reason it is different is because the Catholic Church does not operate according to the Protestant principles of “sola scriptura” and “sola fide.” What sola scriptura means in practice is that nothing can be believed if it is not clearly demonstrated from Scripture, since if another person does not see clearly that Scripture affirms what you teach, they will teach contrary to you.
Actually, they didn’t become Lutheran for many of the same reasons they didn’t remain Catholic. Sacraments, the real presence, etc.This is why not all Protestants became Lutheran.
And oddly enough, Lutherans do not reject prayer for the dead.For this reason, it would be helpful to have as many books as were available. Although it is perhaps not sufficiently clear in other books, 2 Maccabees very explicitly teaches that praying for the dead is good, a practice traditionally rejected by Protestants. If praying for the dead is a good practice, then Protestants have really dropped the ball for their dead, which could have been averted if they had the larger canon.
Goodness! Not in any teaching that I was exposed to.The doctrine of “sola fide” ends up coloring one’s interpretation of Scripture in this way. The problem with the mantra “sola fide” is that it produces a distorted view of Christian life. “We don’t have to do X,” “We shouldn’t do X,” or “It is an abomination to do X” are all justified on the basis that they contradict “faith alone.” This mindset can put faith into opposition to things which are not at all contrary to faith.
This isn’t exactly true, considering that Hebrews also stands in the Antilegomena. It isn’t what James or Hebrews or Revelation teaches, but the historic nature of the disputes that surround them. James authorship has historically been disputed.Another thing about “sola fide” is that it creates a distorted hierarchy of Scripture. This is especially true for Lutherans. Protestants, holding sola fide as their chief doctrine, ascribe primary importance to those books which they think most clearly teach it (such as Romans) and less importance to other books. For example, Catholics see James saying that we are not justified by faith alone, and while there may be a true interpretation of sola fide, they are puzzled why Protestants insist dogmatically on a formula which is not taught explicitly and explicitly rejected in Scripture (Protestant pro-sola fide interpretations of James notwithstanding). In your case, you have even said before that James, along with the other “Antilegomena” is of less authority than Paul’s letters. While Catholic interpretation ascribes more importance to certain books (the Gospels or the NT epistles) than others (Esther), I would argue that it does not have quite as imbalanced a view of Scripture.
From a Reformation viewpoint, the Reformers saw the Church teaching a works righteousness doctrine. Even if that was a teaching in error, and not reflective of the Catholic Church’s true doctrine, the response of the reformers was based on what they saw, what we see, in St. Paul who, regularly tells us we are justified by faith, and not by works.
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