"Biblical Commission: homosexual unions should not be condemned"

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Do the liars include Fr. James Martin?
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Right, people are created good but then they can indeed deviate from that. Every human proclivity is not “good” every sexual desire and fetish is not good, disorder is disorder. God does not create homosexuality as a “good” No other way to read the entire Bible. From as long as I can remember I have wanted to have sexual activities with many women whom I am not married to. Does that mean that the desire to do so is a “good” and something that should be recognized by the Church as natural and Holy?
 
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It? I am describing human beings made in God’s image. The Divine plan. The Divine Will. It begins in Genesis 1:1. Not Genesis 3. And it makes all of the difference. Creation did not begin with the fall. It began with God creating good.
You say it rather than HE OR SHE. One thing is the person the other conduct or behavior, not a person. We are all sinners. God makes his rain on the sinner and righteous.
And so you do not call God’s creation anything but good, and if he created gays the way they are, I think they have the same right to claim they are created good the same as anyone else. There are lots of sins that we commit that didn’t happen before the fall.
 
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Let me remind you the orthodox teaching of the church is GOD only creates good.
Evil, or sin, is the probation of good. God creates people. They are good. Read Genesis.
If someone is born with a proclivity they are born good still. You are heterosexual, your proclivity. The way you were made. Your impulse to have many sex partners as you describe is an action that exhibits a private of good. And this would be the same for a person born homosexual.
 
I’m not making any statements beyond what I know but I do know that the OP and the cited tweet deliberately misquoted the words of the commission.
 
I didn’t read the article, but if it were true, the deprivation of the Eucharist is a serious issue in the catechism. ( If she was OTHERWIZE in good standing. My posts were all conditioned upon the representations of course.
Which brings me to your " tells everyone." Save it. We all have read about how Jesus addresses righteous stone throwers. What I said raises the issue I raised, and I don’t need to accept your premise or option. Otherwise it becomes lost that a Catholic family and practicing Catholics for 50+ years are at stake.
 
Those were always issues. So was other crime. They may or may not have wanted to have sex with angels, but either way their crime was intended to represent a lack of hospitality. Rape of course, a sexual assault.
 
People are created good, but in action, every single one of us has " deviated from that" in terms of behavior
 
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Who are we to judge anyway? Doesn’t Paul teach us in Romans 2:1 that God is the only judge?
 
They are good I so far as God made them and only makes good. All 6 days. Everything. And people also. Let me stop here, what I object to is Catholics not knowing this. Has nothing to do with sin. And I didn’t say a word about homosexual sex. You did. I guess if you can’t catch her in the act, impute a sin as if you did. Otherwise how can you get a decent stoning off the ground?
You say," homosexual sex is not part of the Divine plan."
That’s a different conversation. How come you don’t know that?
 
You are the wicked driver outer? Jesus also said," if you who are wicked give good things to your children, how much more so shall the heavenly father give good things to those who ask him."
If we follow your snippet to the letter, my snippet to the letter says nobody left. That can’t be right.
 
All right: who is the wicked here?
Shall we show our brooms? Or would singing “Defying gravity” be enough ?
Some posts really make one turn green 😶…
 
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The only human being who said he never had to repent because he has had nothing to repent for( ask forgiveness for) IS DONALD TRUMP.
Are you a Trump fan? Have you made a fuss about him?
In terms of the adulterer, Jesus did not raise repentance. He forgave her right after he asked where are your accusers and she basically said nowhere. That was not a repentance. At that point he forgave her. Then instructed her gently about the future. She never said a word and Jesus did not repent for her
 
As my grandmother always told me, “Consider the source.” A blogger can be anyone. Here is an excerpt from Crux Now by a writer from the Catholic News Service:

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Biblical document does not signal opening to gay marriage, official says

A new book by the Pontifical Biblical Commission cannot be read as opening the Catholic Church to the acceptance of gay marriage or homosexual unions, said the secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
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I was always taught (and we’re talking decades here) that homosexual orientation was not a sin because some people can be born that way, but the act was a sin. Homosexuals are called to chastity just like the rest of us. And that means no homosexual acts ever.

I don’t understand why anyone would talk about sodomy before the fall. When man fell, there were one man and one woman. So where would Adam have found another man to sin with? Bestiality, maybe. But sodomy? I doubt that.
 
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That was not a repentance. At that point he forgave her. Then instructed her gently about the future. She never said a word and Jesus did not repent for her
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May I ask whether you believe that true repentance is necessary for a valid Confession ?
 
Awesome reaction. Lol. I thought you were serious. Obviously not about your position about repentance. Not with that reaction to the president’s statement about repentance that is hands down the most awesome non Christian one about repentance I ever heard a human being utter.
Your statement wasn’t, " hey you are right about that." It went strait into Trump defense mode. You seem selective friend.
 
True contrition is. And a resolve to not sin furthur. That said we don’t limit out on one confession and nobody expects us to.
 
Be glad to discuss it. But the Adulteress did not actually engage in it. Not that can be found in the text.
Do you think there must be a transaction, a quid pro quo , to have sins forgiven by Jesus?
How about his crucifiers?
 
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